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Sep 3, 2008

Crisis in Ukraine: Coalition on the rocks again

Ukraine is in the grip of a fresh crisis, with another face-off between former Orange Bloc allies President Viktor Yushchenko and Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko underway. The president has accused Tymoshenko of 'high treason' and 'working with Russia' as she refused to condemn South Ossetia’s and Abkhazia's declarations of independence.

Yushchenko's announcement comes ahead of a visit to the country on Thursday by U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney to try and drum up support for Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili.

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“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

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It looks like American lapdog Yuschenko is very upset that inspite of the facts that Georgia attacked and invaded South Ossetia, that Prime MInister Yulia Timmoshenko didn't condemn Abkazia and South Ossetia's Independence.

Why should she if Georgia is clearly in the wrong. The cardinal sin seems to be that she is a thinking person instead of America's lapdog and doesn't yip and jump through hoops to Please America.

Good for her, at least someone is thinking for themselves in Ukraine.

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Banana democracy
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SkobelevMihail wrote:
Banana democracy
Real Democracy can't be managed. Ideas can't be appointed. Personalities can't be made up.

Sorry to hear that your Democracy is quite managed.
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Russia you had better bring Ukraine kicking and screaming or whatever you have to do to bring them back under your sphere of influence. Ask any native american about dealing with Washington and trusting American Government leaders. You don't read their lips, it's their fork tongue that gives them away every time. They will be a thorn in your side if you don't reassert your geo-political interests in that part of the world.
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Democracy in Ukraine, or anywhere else, in action will always confound those Russian chauvinists who know nothing but authoritarianism and neofascism.
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SkobelevMihail wrote:
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Instability is scary and very uncomfortable for the Russian mind. But Ukraine will become stronger as a result of this. As it did after every election held to date.

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SkobelevMihail wrote:
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LOL...wtf would a Russian know about "democracy" other than what you might have seen in a movie?

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SkobelevMihail wrote:
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you get that because ukraine borders russia and not u.s.a.,get it?
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Yushchenko "I wanna get greased by Nato bucks"
Tymoshenko "I wanna keep my gaz syphoning empire alive"
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Sheesh, that Yulia rotates more partners than a Nevada hooker on crack.
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Live Free or Die wrote:
Sheesh, that Yulia rotates more partners than a Nevada hooker on crack.
"Our Ukraine" Their (Russian) gaz.

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Live Free or Die wrote:
Sheesh, that Yulia rotates more partners than a Nevada hooker on crack.
She does keep things interesting.
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Stefan wrote:
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Real Democracy can't be managed. Ideas can't be appointed. Personalities can't be made up.
Sorry to hear that your Democracy is quite managed.
You are so infantile.
Do you really suppose, that Canadian democracy is not managed by big business and a couple of powerful men?
You blind man then.
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LOL...wtf would a Russian know about "democracy" other than what you might have seen in a movie?
Movies, internet and books are quite enough to know everything about everything haha.
Can you say, that american electoral system is transparent and really democratic?
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In Ukrain is quite souvereign democracy but we can see, that it's not so effective as they wished.
Finally, i think, that Yuschenko became president by non-democratic way.
Orange revolution wasn't exhibit democracy, but just ochlocracy.
Soon we'll see how democratic system will depose him.
He is really political corpse, and a lot of ukrainians say that.
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clearly predicted by the one and only pesky...
there´s not one politician in UKS land that´s capable to govern the country for more that a year perhaps two !
could it be, too much influence from outside to either side ?
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How do you explain growing pains to someone. It is happening here and the old generation is fading away and the new generation will bring some changes but change will not happen for at least another 25 years. The economy of Ukraine is growing and investment is good. That is postive signs for Ukraine. Politicions the world over are bad. Most of them.
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Alex wrote:
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Movies, internet and books are quite enough to know everything about everything haha.
Can you say, that american electoral system is transparent and really democratic?
We have a democracy?

Lol, when did they slip that one in?

What I do know is that we have a minority leader who hides behind barricades of military and state gestapo to have "Security and Prosperity talks" (the SPP, or better known as a bunch of "representatives" meeting with corporate leaders behind closed doors) and refusing to allow parliamentarians, intellects or even us "untermenschen" commoners to access or ask questions.

Then they plant police in the crowds with balaclavas weilding rocks to try to incite the crowd to violence at the "battle line".
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If this had been a real demonstrator, they would have had a couple clubs applied to their heads.

Infiltrating cops, trying to incite violence, so they can portray the protest on their media as thugs.
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