'Lazy Ugandans jealous of Indians'

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sol-man
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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#4 Apr 17, 2007
Ugandians have very short memory. they do not recall those good old days during Amin days when the whole country went to hell and thousandes were killed under that government.what did the indians get under that regime .nothing we lost every thing we left with nothing after almost 100 years.i am a ugandian born indian i was not considered ugandian . it is very easy for these people to target indians . this is in their nature.if they can get some thing for free they will loot and steal.with pleasure.this is in their blood.blacks live in USA AND OTHER COUNTRIES. even living in this for 100s years when they get a chance they run out and loot and steal and gave total disregard law. no body should help them let them go back to the stone age.you need to under stand this nature of black people

In reply for the last comments of Sol-man

I am a Ugandan black as you may say. Indians are more hated than anyone else just because some who consider them selves ugandans they do not show that to ugandans. You too if your a ugandan must fight together with the ugandans. When Ugandans are fighting for their rights Those so called Uganda indians just hide in houses. They live Ugandans to suffer alone. This shows that for them they do not care for whether ugandans are suffering or not. For them they only mind about thier busnesses. Those indians do not feel anygood for Ugandans. Its better you change your attitudes towards them and then later they will recogonise you too. Stop comming here as big investors who at the end begin to simple jobs that are also done by the local citizens.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/uganda/T9A0A...

Joseph wrote:

Indians are more hated than anyone else just because some who consider them selves ugandans they do not show that to ugandans.

You are living in a dream world my BOY.

Africans will never ever be as hard working as Indians wheher you like it or not.

As for hating Indians so much, how come the blacks in South Africa are today slaughtering fellow African immigrants their 1000s'.

Oh now let's see, it is to do with apartheid,Colonialism,Imperial ism and all the other isms you Africans always suffer from!!!!

Yours is a blood thirsty continent. STOP blaming the Indians.

After AMIN, without our Indians you people in Uganda would still be living in the dark ages.

Now go back to your BEEZZINNESS.

Drabbo wrote:

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Secondly I belong a very different generation of africans-- one you have obviously never encountered-- you are stuck in the 60's and 70's - its incredibly exhausting bringing u up to speed with modern africa.

Here's a very timely article by Timothy Kalyegira just for you Drabbo.

Do try and read it won't you??

http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/Kalye...

Joseph wrote:

I am a Ugandan black as you may say. Indians are more hated than anyone else just because some who consider them selves ugandans they do not show that to ugandans. You too if your a ugandan must fight together with the ugandans. When Ugandans are fighting for their rights Those so called Uganda indians just hide in houses.

Uganda to-day would be deeper in the toilet if the Indians hadn't come come to rescue you lazy quick fastbuck artists in 1979.

Our people work 24/7 and don't spend 20 shillings when they have just made 17.

You are a typical African blaming your woes on everyone except yourself.

You people need to leave the 'dark continent' and join the golbal community instead of harping on about your colonial,slavery. imperial ridden days.

Your work ethic and lazzines has to change for good, once and for all.

Peace - UK wrote:

When does an Indian cease to be an Indian?
http://www.topix.net/forum/world/india/TN8KI9...

Biologically he never does. But culturally and mentally, he ceases when he abandons the culture and loyalties of his ancestors.

Joseph wrote:

In reply for the last comments of Sol-man
I am a Ugandan black as you may say. Indians are more hated than anyone else just because some who consider them selves ugandans they do not show that to ugandans. You too if your a ugandan must fight together with the ugandans. When Ugandans are fighting for their rights

Basically you Ugandan Africans are lazy and useless. Nowadays no African in Uganda wants to work for a decent living.

Eveyone is into thieving and wants to rely on donor funds.

Just click on the link below and you will see how an average Ugandan diplomat can't even get a toilet fixed at some of the most expensive addresses in the first world. This mentality of shitting in the shamba and wiping your ass with grass has to stop.

Joseph wrote:

sol-man
Fort Lauderdale, FL Reply »
|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#4 Apr 17, 2007
Ugandians have very short memory. they do not recall those good old days during Amin days when the whole country went to hell and thousandes were killed under that government.what did the indians get under that regime .nothing we lost every thing we left with nothing after almost 100 years.i am a ugandian born indian i was not considered ugandian . it is very easy for these people to target indians . this is in their nature.if they can get some thing for free they will loot and steal.with pleasure.this is in their blood.blacks live in USA AND OTHER COUNTRIES. even living in this for 100s years when they get a chance they run out and loot and steal and gave total disregard law. no body should help them let them go back to the stone age.you need to under stand this nature of black people
In reply for the last comments of Sol-man
I am a Ugandan black as you may say. Indians are more hated than anyone else just because some who consider them selves ugandans they do not show that to ugandans. You too if your a ugandan must fight together with the ugandans. When Ugandans are fighting for their rights Those so called Uganda indians just hide in houses. They live Ugandans to suffer alone. This shows that for them they do not care for whether ugandans are suffering or not. For them they only mind about thier busnesses. Those indians do not feel anygood for Ugandans. Its better you change your attitudes towards them and then later they will recogonise you too. Stop comming here as big investors who at the end begin to simple jobs that are also done by the local citizens.

my dear friend JOE, before you get down on Indians,you must realize that the money your father used for your education , was ill gotten, from robbing the Indians, and robbing the generosity of tax payers like me .when aid is sent to you and your kind.it is stolen and used to educate idiots like you. your kind is a danger to Uganda, you don't know the value of people if it hit you in the face. Most Indians i know would not bother with your kind or for that matter with this toilet you refer as Uganda, you, could not get along with the ones that help you build what was Uganda once upon a time ,how the f**K do expect to get along with this new folks that are coming from India. all you know is how to f**KUP A GOOD THING. you need to go into the chamba, and take a long crap,and pick a few banana leaves and pretend it is world news so that you will understand what is going on around the world.chances are you will understand jack!

Joseph wrote:

sol-man
Fort Lauderdale, FL Reply »
|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#4 Apr 17, 2007
Ugandians have very short memory. they do not recall those good old days during Amin days when the whole country went to hell and thousandes were killed under that government.what did the indians get under that regime .nothing we lost every thing we left with nothing after almost 100 years.i am a ugandian born indian i was not considered ugandian . it is very easy for these people to target indians . this is in their nature.if they can get some thing for free they will loot and steal.with pleasure.this is in their blood.blacks live in USA AND OTHER COUNTRIES. even living in this for 100s years when they get a chance they run out and loot and steal and gave total disregard law. no body should help them let them go back to the stone age.you need to under stand this nature of black people
In reply for the last comments of Sol-man
I am a Ugandan black as you may say. Indians are more hated than anyone else just because some who consider them selves ugandans they do not show that to ugandans. You too if your a ugandan must fight together with the ugandans. When Ugandans are fighting for their rights Those so called Uganda indians just hide in houses. They live Ugandans to suffer alone. This shows that for them they do not care for whether ugandans are suffering or not. For them they only mind about thier busnesses. Those indians do not feel anygood for Ugandans. Its better you change your attitudes towards them and then later they will recogonise you too. Stop comming here as big investors who at the end begin to simple jobs that are also done by the local citizens.

i all so wanted to say ,as you are having a long dump in the chamba reading your banana,leaf news paper i have news for you hot off the press Indians are loved and asked to immigrate to all corners of this world,but you people have to sneak across the borders and than take advantage of those unfortunate people that you managed to illegally enter their country. you have along way to go JOE,

sol-man wrote:

<quoted text>i all so wanted to say ,as you are having a long dump in the chamba reading your banana,leaf news paper i have news for you hot off the press Indians are loved and asked to immigrate to all corners of this world,but you people have to sneak across the borders and than take advantage of those unfortunate people that you managed to illegally enter their country. you have along way to go JOE,

Hey SOL MAN, first of all you absolutely must learn some English. The correct word is 'emigrate' in the context of your sentence.

Secondly it is Shamba not Chamba.

How long have you actually been in the US?

I am sorry, but you are a disgrace to us 'original' Indians from Uganda.

Night school English classes for immigrants in Florida perhaps.

indians are far worse to ugandans than the other way round. and doees anybody notice its indians that ugandas hate most? they are not racist like indians but ugandans hate all racists.

and hey kotecha, who says it emigrate, u don't write words the way u pronounce them!! i think u need to go back to Bangladesh and fix your English too.

kotecha wrote:

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Hey SOL MAN, first of all you absolutely must learn some English. The correct word is 'emigrate' in the context of your sentence.
Secondly it is Shamba not Chamba.
How long have you actually been in the US?
I am sorry, but you are a disgrace to us 'original' Indians from Uganda.
Night school English classes for immigrants in Florida perhaps.

you are still the same dirt bag,i see ,you need to quit thinking your a white man,Its you who is a disgrace to all us,Indians.THE way you run your mouth i am surprised, you don't get your ass kicked on a daily bases , and by the way i have been here for a long time and will be here long after you have quit answer my posts. you need to quit fooling your self in thinking that you are gods gift to the English language.Before YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH,get a AMERICAN DICTIONARY look up this words and than come back,to run your mouth,

ugandan in india wrote:

indians are far worse to ugandans than the other way round. and doees anybody notice its indians that ugandas hate most? they are not racist like indians but ugandans hate all racists.

all Indians are not bad people there is a very few, who see them as being above every one and everything ,like this waste of time that call him self the krochrott oops! i miss spelled it is (kotecha)it is this kind of Indian that created bad blood between this two common people, so it would be very wise to keep this kind of people out of Uganda. all you have to do is go to other blogs and see this guys attitude ,and out look on other folks, and it will be very clear to you as to what i am talking about.There were many mistakes made on both sides in Uganda but i think its time to let this things go,or you will never get passed this things. There is plenty of hate out there,the only way out of this is to change our ways.

As an East African i understand the concern that Indians never invest their profits in the country
they live in. And in my opinion that in itself is a reason to ban them. They can do business as forigin investor but if you want to live and be considered a native of the country you have to act and behave like one.

But the other points, especially the mixing part, why should they mix with Africans, if they don't want to. Nobody should hold that against them.

No disrespect to Indians, the African country I came from, I've never heard anybody wanting to mix with the few Indians that leave there.

I think situations are slowley changing in Africa and I hope Indians who want to work, live etc.... in any African countries will find the process easy.

Peace to all

Elias wrote:

To give another point of view
I worked with a Ugandan overseas 15 years ago. We discussed Uganda over coffee after work almost every second day
There a few points that have not been raised here that I learnt from this gentleman that are worth posing
1. Ugandan Africans are made up of a variety of ethnic groups - some of whom are despised more than Indians.
2. African men are actually attracted to Indian girls but a afraid to approach them as they are often threatend by brothers or members of the Indian community (ironic given how small Indian community is) this adds to the belief Indians dont want to assimilate
3. Indians will always hire another indian in preference to hiring a black african and given unemployment was always high in Uganda this smacked of prejudice
4. Indians never invested their profits in the country but rather setup offshore accounts or in trust accounts in the UK, worst still Indians rarely donated time or money for african charities
5. Indians were never involved in local sports (i.e. soccor)and particpation was negligible
6. Finally Indians openly looked down on africans. Whats funny is some of the african people were actually better looking and more refined in their qualities yet were never good enough to mix with.
My friend never worked out was why Mahatma Gandhi started a union for Indian workers in south africa but never made legal representation for african workers in the smae boat. Surely he was a humanitarian
Indians may have to prove they have changed when they come back to Unganda

pearl boy wrote:

and hey kotecha, who says it emigrate, u don't write words the way u pronounce them!! i think u need to go back to Bangladesh and fix your English too.

don't worry about this flunky. This guy is a luuuuuuuzer! he thinks he is very smart, and i completely agree with your suggestion and your thoughts are right on the money.

Kulpa wrote:

As an East African i understand the concern that Indians never invest their profits in the country
they live in. And in my opinion that in itself is a reason to ban them. They can do business as forigin investor but if you want to live and be considered a native of the country you have to act and behave like one.
But the other points, especially the mixing part, why should they mix with Africans, if they don't want to. Nobody should hold that against them.
No disrespect to Indians, the African country I came from, I've never heard anybody wanting to mix with the few Indians that leave there.
I think situations are slowley changing in Africa and I hope Indians who want to work, live etc.... in any African countries will find the process easy.
Peace to all
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most Indians are ready to change, if they were to feel safe and respected,but this is a long process it takes a lot of trust on both sides,i am sure in time things aways work out but you have to give time to your new Indian friends it will all happen when they fell welcomed, believe me when we were forced out of Uganda IT toke a long time for us to adjust,some of us are still not adjusted yet,and to think! That this people have the perfect conditions to do it in ,so give this people a chance.Some will try to make Uganda their home and others will not be happy that is only part of human nature,and those ones that choose to stay you need to show them that you welcome them,i think this attitude will work. believe me it was hard for us, but i see it is very easy for our kids, so give it time. Uganda should work on good and fair laws as far as money is concerned it should limit to what can be taken out of the country,and in what form it can be taken out,that is very important. controlling the flow of money is the key ,and you need very trustworthy people that are in control of this systems ,and the next thing is a very efficient way to collect taxes so that it can be used to build the infrastructure of the country, people will have jobs that they can be proud of, a proud person is a hard working person.but it is all in your hands how you want to go about it. we cant go no shafting the blame,but some day you must stand up and be counted, that is important. you must always keep in mind,when this people that come into your country as guests you must treat them better than you would your selves this will build trust and brake this old stereotypes, and than you are on your way.

Another thing..... An Indian is very fast with starting a business. Whether it be retail or wholesale. Many have liked to go into medical fields. The thing is that not many from the west as individuals will easily move over to say for example Uganda and open up a retail or wholesale shop or a medical surgery. The Western countries generally will organise loan from the world bank or give loan to Uganda government in this case to purchase various services and major parts from their countries. That way the Ugandan government for example ends up paying for the loans if this offer is taken up.

In case of Indians, they go as individuals and work and settle in that country. So they get seen easily. Their culture gets seen easily. They get liked and disliked easily by the local people. In case of the Western countries, they dont get seen easily. You only see big headlines in papers saying so and so Western country gave so many billions to Uganda to set up a so and so industry. But the real workers/labourers can be Browns and Blacks. That is how the Indians got involved in building the railway lines in East Africa. That is how many are busy building Roads in Afghanistan. So the real jealousy takes place between the browns and that country people. This is going to be another fact of life as long as the Indians keep moving to all the countries of the world where the politics can be short sighted. After using up the Indians and their services, the politicians need to prepare the people via educational means about the ways to accept these various cultures they invited into their countries in the first place. These individuals also need to get used to the life pattern in the countries they choose. This can happen only in the right atmosphere. The way I see it now, this is already happening in UK. That is why people from so many races feel at home in UK at the moment. In UK, we have Browns in the army, medical fields, computer fields, research and what not. Yes that way they feel British after getting the passports. Otherwise just getting the passports does not make a man British. This can happen in Uganda too. A new minister like Amin coming up suddenly should not be allowed to make new decisions. They need to follow the books set by the previous governments. But then again Amin took over by force. The world watched. Uganda became a meal for the world. The more they go down, the more they will need from the other countries. That is what exactly happened.

A team of good politicians can make all stable. So no one takes over the country by force. Because Amin was black, it was not seen as another country man taking over Uganda. But it was equally bad to be frank.

Hi

Indian moving in from India and later acquiring Uganda citizenship cant be called an African. Why African? Because Uganda is in Africa they cant suddenly become Africans. In Uganda the word African in the 1970s was meant to be black. Dont know what it means these days. Brown will always be brown. They like it or not but that will be the fact. They will have different cultural background. That can change little as many hundreds of years pass. Expecting any more change from a brown Indian as required by a black Ugandan will be asking for a miracle. Some habits and methods will change as time goes. People pick up the good from various faiths and cultures. That becomes a news culture. But their religious beliefs and many methods will always be the same in most cases. That one thing the black people of Uganda need to understand about the brown Indian people. Keep them or send them back is their choice. Understand this now and act. You have a choice before handing out the passports like Obote and Amin ministers did.

Naturally jealousy does take place seeing one progress. When it is within the country with the same colour people, it does not seem to get much publicity. That can happen in UK and USA and all over the world. That is a human bad tendency which needs to be put right by various methods. A UK minister kicking the Asians out due to jealousy will not make Amin right as I read a while ago here. It will only mean having another idiot amongst us. But yes that can happen. The world keeping quiet at that time will mean more cooperating with the idiots. Then what? They will look for peace. For many, peace is the interval between 2 wars. That is not real peace.

Deal with the problems. Let different faiths exist. In such atmosphere, a brown Indian will be more than happy to fight along side the black Ugandan when the counry is attacked. Then also he will still be brown and not black. That, I feel is the way. People can have different views.