Prosecutor Moves on Ruling Turkish Party

This is the true test for Turkey to keep goverment and adminstration alon enineering lines rather then faith based. Science and technology must prevail in administration of countries of homilies as a court must have proof and evidence before rendering a judgement.

It is the conflict between "deep state" and "regular state". Some so-called ultranationalist groups (interestingly some of them was known as Maoist and communist organizations) trying to create a chaos in the country and enforcing state officials against the ruling AK Party. Those groups are trying to bring a military coupe in Turkey.

Okay, everybody sing:

Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night

/ Em -// B7 -/ Em -/

Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you've a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul

.../ EmB7 Em /

{Bridge}
Even old New York
Was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way

/ Em -// Cdim7 B7 / Em B7 /

So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works
That's nobody's business but the Turks'

/ Em -// B7 -/ Em B7 /- Em /

Do do do, do-do-do dododododo
Oh, oh-oh-oh...
Do do do, do-do-do dododododo
Do do do, do-do-do dododododo
Do - Istanbul
{Repeat}

{Bridge}

So take me back to...

Istanbul!

Mehmet Zeki wrote:

It is the conflict between "deep state" and "regular state". Some so-called ultranationalist groups (interestingly some of them was known as Maoist and communist organizations) trying to create a chaos in the country and enforcing state officials against the ruling AK Party. Those groups are trying to bring a military coupe in Turkey.

That is not true.Our Zionist government is trying to put pressure on our anti Zionist Journalist.Later they will try(yerse!)to put pressure on anti Zionist generals of our army.

Hard Turk wrote:

<quoted text>That is not true.Our Zionist government is trying to put pressure on our anti Zionist Journalist.Later they will try(yerse!)to put pressure on anti Zionist generals of our army.

Do you know something different than Zionist or anti-Zionist? There are not only two colors --black or white--

Mehmet Zeki wrote:

<quoted text>
Do you know something different than Zionist or anti-Zionist? There are not only two colors --black or white--

There are many signs that Fettullah Gülen is Zionist.
And it is a known fact AKP is from Gülen religious order.
There are so many evidence to prove what I say is right.For example Dogu Perincek is not someone grey but anti Zionist.

The person Dogu Perincek is anti Sionist huh. Don't be funny. Everyone knows what Dogu Perincek is. He was flirting sometimes with Abdullah Ocalan who is the serial killer of 35000 people in Turkey with glaves in his hands. If you dont believe me, you can read him from Soner Yalcin who was his ex-comrade :D. When we come to Fethullah Gulen. Is he the muslim scholar who migrated from his country, suffering from serious cardiac diseases, diabetes, hyper-tension at the end of his life? You mean that man is managing Turkey such a big country. huh huh huh

Mehmet Zeki wrote:

The person Dogu Perincek is anti Sionist huh. Don't be funny. Everyone knows what Dogu Perincek is. He was flirting sometimes with Abdullah Ocalan who is the serial killer of 35000 people in Turkey with glaves in his hands. If you dont believe me, you can read him from Soner Yalcin who was his ex-comrade :D. When we come to Fethullah Gulen. Is he the muslim scholar who migrated from his country, suffering from serious cardiac diseases, diabetes, hyper-tension at the end of his life? You mean that man is managing Turkey such a big country. huh huh huh

Dogu Perincek is one of the most valuable sons of Turkey.He visited Abdullah Öcalan as a Journalist ,so what?He is Kemalist and a true nationalist.
He never published Turkey's Maps where south east Anatolia is Kurdistan like Hürriyet Newspaper.
But Hurriyet Editors never go Jail.
Those who defend Turkish Unity like Perincek goes to Jail.Why is that?Can you explain that to me?
I made a post about Fettullah Gülen,visit that and see yourself what kind of person he is.

Everything is clear as black and white.Also PKK is Zionist:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_Jews

Firstly, Please do not be offensive and use insulting language for others. I am a rational man and I do not understand why Perincek is always inviting the army to the duty. Are we in a war? Definitely, NO. It means that he wants the army make a coupe to destroy democratic institutions of the coutry. I prefer that Perincek starts a campaign and tell his ideas to the people and spread those ideas and in elections get majority of votes then rule the country. However, I never have seen he gives a chance even one time to DEMOCRACY. I think he donot give a chance to democracy but the people of Turkey donot give a chance to him even once.
All in all he just get 0,1% point in elections. Although it is a fact he became unsuccessful many times, he is still the president of his party. It is totally nonsense. After that when I was in high school, one of my friend was reading his magazine "2000'e Do&#287;ru" when I see her. She killed in a gunfight with the police. I wonder how you can match this with patriotism. On the other hand, you say he was a journalist when he met with Ocalan. You mean Ocalan is ok, but Perincek is not. Can you tell me why he was appreciating Ocalan in his magazines till 1991 as using epic language to define Ocalan's terrorists.
You ask me why Fethullah Gülen went to US. Let me say he was not stupid. Justice in Turkey is full of leftist and maoist. I never trust on the decisions of Turkish judges. They mixed their duties with politics. It is extremely dangerous for Turkey's unity. If we cannot trust to Judgement system in a country, to whom will we trust?

Mehmet Zeki wrote:

Firstly, Please do not be offensive and use insulting language for others. I am a rational man and I do not understand why Perincek is always inviting the army to the duty. Are we in a war? Definitely, NO. It means that he wants the army make a coupe to destroy democratic institutions of the coutry. I prefer that Perincek starts a campaign and tell his ideas to the people and spread those ideas and in elections get majority of votes then rule the country. However, I never have seen he gives a chance even one time to DEMOCRACY. I think he donot give a chance to democracy but the people of Turkey donot give a chance to him even once.
All in all he just get 0,1% point in elections. Although it is a fact he became unsuccessful many times, he is still the president of his party. It is totally nonsense. After that when I was in high school, one of my friend was reading his magazine "2000'e Do&#287;ru" when I see her. She killed in a gunfight with the police. I wonder how you can match this with patriotism. On the other hand, you say he was a journalist when he met with Ocalan. You mean Ocalan is ok, but Perincek is not. Can you tell me why he was appreciating Ocalan in his magazines till 1991 as using epic language to define Ocalan's terrorists.
You ask me why Fethullah Gülen went to US. Let me say he was not stupid. Justice in Turkey is full of leftist and maoist. I never trust on the decisions of Turkish judges. They mixed their duties with politics. It is extremely dangerous for Turkey's unity. If we cannot trust to Judgement system in a country, to whom will we trust?

Firstly it is non of your business if I swear somebody who swears at me.I do not swear you, do I?
I do not know which article written before 1991 you are talking about.But I am not shocked you can not prove any of his recent article that is against Turkey's unity.Or you can not prove he is anti-Kemalist.Maybe he did something wrong that I do not know before 1991.But what is it got to do with today.
Today we know he is in the jail because he criticized the government and he proved the government is Zionist.He broadcasted our traitor prime minister's video on Turkish media.In it prime minister was saying he was the head of the Zionist BO(büyük ortadogu) project.
Today we are at an age when you prove the real traitor,you go to jail.But was it not the same during earlier traitor Talat pasha?Did they not declared Ataturk as a traitor then?

Mehmet Zeki wrote:

Firstly, Please do not be offensive and use insulting language for others. I am a rational man and I do not understand why Perincek is always inviting the army to the duty. Are we in a war? Definitely, NO. It means that he wants the army make a coupe to destroy democratic institutions of the coutry. I prefer that Perincek starts a campaign and tell his ideas to the people and spread those ideas and in elections get majority of votes then rule the country. However, I never have seen he gives a chance even one time to DEMOCRACY. I think he donot give a chance to democracy but the people of Turkey donot give a chance to him even once.
All in all he just get 0,1% point in elections. Although it is a fact he became unsuccessful many times, he is still the president of his party. It is totally nonsense. After that when I was in high school, one of my friend was reading his magazine "2000'e Do&#287;ru" when I see her. She killed in a gunfight with the police. I wonder how you can match this with patriotism. On the other hand, you say he was a journalist when he met with Ocalan. You mean Ocalan is ok, but Perincek is not. Can you tell me why he was appreciating Ocalan in his magazines till 1991 as using epic language to define Ocalan's terrorists.
You ask me why Fethullah Gülen went to US. Let me say he was not stupid. Justice in Turkey is full of leftist and maoist. I never trust on the decisions of Turkish judges. They mixed their duties with politics. It is extremely dangerous for Turkey's unity. If we cannot trust to Judgement system in a country, to whom will we trust?

Also don't forget Ergün Poyraz.He proved that our prime minister's wife is Jew.In his book Children of Mosas he talked about Erdogan's dirty relations with the Zionist.How the Zionist supported them all through his life.But today where is he?In jail.If you criticize Erdogan you go Jail.They made up some crime for him and we all know if he sees the Judge he will be freed.But he never saw the Judge for 9 months.Can you believe it without seeing the judge for 9 months.I am sure even Hitler never did that.And you approve this Ergenekon?Shame on you!

You say justice in Turkey is leftist or Maoist.Sorry but I never heard such a bullshit before.Because today and in the past the students are always chosen by ÖSS.I did not know the ÖSS favours leftists and Maoists.That is as funny as all of your other allegations.
So you dropped Gülen's health allegations and now it is the Judges who are bad.I know our Legal system is not good.But no one can say they favour some people over others.You belong to a group which constantly commit crimes and that is why you are afraid of judges.If a Judge gives a wrong decision you can always appeal.So why afraid of judges?Because Gülen is guilty.He is a jew.He served for Zionist.He brain washed many people(possibly you are one of them) and placed them to government positions.
He should be hanged for being a traitor.

A CD seized at the headquarters of the Workers’ Party (&#304;P) during the ongoing Ergenekon investigation has revealed that Ergün Poyraz, a journalist known for his controversial writings, has received payment from the Gendarmerie Intelligence and Counterterrorism Service (J&#304;TEM), the Taraf daily reported on Saturday.
The CD includes five documents regarding payments made to Poyraz, author of “The Children of Moses,” which features allegations that Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdo&#287;an ascended to power as part of a “Zionist conspiracy,” by J&#304;TEM, a clandestine organization that is commonly believed to be behind many bombings, attacks and assassinations. The existence of J&#304;TEM is denied by officials.
Poyraz was detained by counterterrorism teams in late July of last year on suspicion of having links to the Association for the Union of Patriotic Forces (VKGB), a gang whose members include retired army officials and which is believed to have connections to not only petty crime but also to acts aimed at stirring political tension and chaos. He was later arrested and put in jail.

Dear Hard Turk, please check the issues of "2000'e Do&#287;ru" magazine in following years:
1988, 1989,1990,1991

And you can also visit "http://www.turksolu.org/144/erdem144.htm" ; and read the article of "Turkish nation follows Ataturk, Perincek follows Apo"

Dear Hard Turk,
Please use English while posting a comment.
I never become a disrespectful to the martyrs of Canakkale, Independence War and Cyprus or terror victims of Southeast. Thank God, I am Muslim and I am praying for them with blessings and forgiveness in all the time. And I can speak wit every kind of people without considering who they are, which ideology they have and vice versa. Supporting an idea is not a guilt and mistake or wrong never ever. We are human beings and all of us have brain to think and to decide and making a choice.
However, I never supported dictatorial regimes and I am strictly against Coupes whatever it is. In democracy, people decides with free will.
And I am saying again the people you mentioned above are very contraversial characters and noone knows their deep connections and dealings with hidden powers. I am just like a photographer in this news portal and reflecting what I am seeing.
Delivering CD's to the press do not occur only the Ergenekon case. The indictment of AK Party closure case also publicised before the members of the Constitutional Court had.
When we come to light houses. Some of my friends were living in these houses and I had been invited many times to those places. And I went to visit my friends many times as being an individual living in modern times. They never attend in terrorist activities as far as I know. They never killed anybody. They never bombed state institutions. They never killed a soldier of this country. They never opposed to democratic system. They never tried to seize power over the democratic government. If you think fairly enough and give a chance to understand these people, I think you can also see what they want to do. Turkey is really a fragile country and everybody knows this fact. Some countries, organizations are using this fact against us and we have to reckon what they want to do. We can use this mosaic structure of our country as a cement to connect our people with each other. It is the only way developing a good democratic system in Turkey.

Mehmet Zeki wrote:

Dear Hard Turk,
Please use English while posting a comment.
I never become a disrespectful to the martyrs of Canakkale, Independence War and Cyprus or terror victims of Southeast. Thank God, I am Muslim and I am praying for them with blessings and forgiveness in all the time. And I can speak wit every kind of people without considering who they are, which ideology they have and vice versa. Supporting an idea is not a guilt and mistake or wrong never ever. We are human beings and all of us have brain to think and to decide and making a choice.
However, I never supported dictatorial regimes and I am strictly against Coupes whatever it is. In democracy, people decides with free will.
And I am saying again the people you mentioned above are very contraversial characters and noone knows their deep connections and dealings with hidden powers. I am just like a photographer in this news portal and reflecting what I am seeing.
Delivering CD's to the press do not occur only the Ergenekon case. The indictment of AK Party closure case also publicised before the members of the Constitutional Court had.
When we come to light houses. Some of my friends were living in these houses and I had been invited many times to those places. And I went to visit my friends many times as being an individual living in modern times. They never attend in terrorist activities as far as I know. They never killed anybody. They never bombed state institutions. They never killed a soldier of this country. They never opposed to democratic system. They never tried to seize power over the democratic government. If you think fairly enough and give a chance to understand these people, I think you can also see what they want to do. Turkey is really a fragile country and everybody knows this fact. Some countries, organizations are using this fact against us and we have to reckon what they want to do. We can use this mosaic structure of our country as a cement to connect our people with each other. It is the only way developing a good democratic system in Turkey.

It is true Isik evleri did not intend to supply terrorists for Zionists.The Zionist have other organizations for that.
But the main reason why there are Isik evleri is they are intended to produce righteous gentiles for Zionists.
As you may know the Zionists do not accept you if you want to be a Jew. But if you live according to 7 laws of Noah you are accepted as good non Jew and have a chance to go to heaven(Jew heaven).
So Isik evleri did not intend to produce terrorists,thieves or murderers,nothing like that
but brain washed Muslims.

this is from the Talmud:
Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
so you can see the Jew can kill a non Jew(and it is accepted a must in their rituals(Bizdeki kurban bayrami gibi)but a non Jew can never kill a Jew.Or he will not be a righteous gentile.

So the brain washed people of Isik evleri are taught to obey to Fettullah which ranked higher than prophet Muhammed.And one day at the right moment Fettullah will declare there is no such thing as a muslim but all religions comes from Hebrew and everybody should devote themselves to Moses.All of the world will be Jew+ righteous gentiles.

These brain washed people by supporting each other and with the help of the enormous amount of Jew money are now being installed in government positions.If I am not wrong even Abdullah Gul is from Fettullah order.