Muslim refugees killed by Russian police

Sahakian wrote:

<quoted text>
Turkish history specially late taught by Turkish government is nothing but lies,myths.Truth gets buried or silenced and those who dare challenge risk prison,harassment or be labeled as "traitor"
No wonder lot of Turks spew garbage endlessly.

KURDO wrote:

<quoted text>
I recently lost my wife , she was Phd in classics, I began to mingle into her liberey and read some of here favorate Classical books i .e Greecko __ Roman books and Articles.
My Self an Engineer .I am so surprize to find out that our Human behavior in the last 2500 years Citerus Prebus ( taking everyhing into account ) have changed very ,very little, Same lies, same greed, same hopes, and same dreams;.
That is why I say leave the ancient all , and let us try some thing new ,or else same fate all over irrespect of internet and fast Ariplanes

Volga Bolgar wrote:

<quoted text>
Hello Sahakian,
I hope you are fine and everything is well.

Sahakian wrote:

<quoted text>
Turkish history specially late taught by Turkish government is nothing but lies,myths.Truth gets buried or silenced and those who dare challenge risk prison,harassment or be labeled as "traitor"
No wonder lot of Turks spew garbage endlessly.

Sahakian wrote:

<quoted text>
Shiro
1st off I am sorry about my harsh tone to you.It touched the nerve in me.
You are unfortunately missing the point.Spirituality is totally opposite to violence and one can not be used to justify the other.By violance I don't mean self defense.By violance I mean torture,innicent peole killed,sadomy etc.
Those Chechens violated basic participial of war that is you don't savagely kill prisoners and shout same time God is great.
If there is God (highly doubt it!human invention) then it would be disgusted how humans justify crimes under his name.
Suicide bombers also shout"God is great" before killing kids,women and the innocent at bazar only because they happened to worship different version of God.
You must analyze this seriously.It is a disastrous misused,abused terminology used all over the world.
Regards

KURDO wrote:

<quoted text>
Bulgar Volgar
If you want to contribute zelj_ zero to progress of the society , go to History Books and keep quating them , for yours as good as others.
If you want to solve any problem , any social ill pay attention to what is on the ground now ,and then give us if you dare your thoughts.
Tamaam bu cho!

Volga Bolgar wrote:

<quoted text>
The First Chechen Genocide was in 1860s. Then Stalin did execute another one during the 1920s-140s, and the last genocides was executed in 1990s-?.
Do you think that God allowed the Russians apply savagery on Chechen civilians, babies women and kids?

Volga Bolgar wrote:

<quoted text>
Dare thoughts?
On Kurdish problem, or anything specific?

KURDO wrote:

<quoted text>
Withen right forum and right and worthy people we will, and we are all over the world we are stating our problems specialy in connections with turkey.

Put it atright it is about inallianable right of our people to NATIONAL right of self determination, which turkey will never accept unless and unless two to three million killed beween us.

Di9versionery talks about laying cliams to other nation teretorries , and slectivity of historicaly fabrication is what we hear and read, mean the killing daily of Kurdish youth without any investigation or any proof simply what the killers report is an act of genoside by osmoses , now go tell us about the Turkish clims about Kirkuk , Cypruss, Azerbadijan , Bulgaria, Rumania etc... leave the Criminal Turkish Army conduct descussion for some other time when the Sun merry will the moon.

Sahakian wrote:

<quoted text>
Dear VB
Be careful with the word Genocide there.If you think what Russians did was genocide against the Chechens same applies to Armenians in 1915-18 ten times the scale.
You can't cherry pick.
Regards.

Volga Bolgar wrote:

<quoted text>
Self determination? It is not given to anyone, it is achieved with struggle as a matter of fact. If you really think that your problems are related to self determination or the criminal acts of Turkey, then you must follow your mind as you wish.
However, I do not believe that it is the right way to go. Of course, some imperialist states promote micro-nationalism, or ethnic conflicts in this particularly strategic region, but the growing trend in the world is convergence around some cultural nucleus rather than divergence.
Turkey is the major nucleus in the region together with Iran, and as long as those two nation states exist in the region, "greater Kurdistan" would remain as the dreams of some declining Western countries like the USA, the UK, or France.
The only solution for the Kurds could be through building a democratic confederation of Iran, Syria, Northern Iraq, and Turkey. That way, the Kurds might have their independent state and they could freely live in other member states without having any trouble about language, flag, education, and so on.

Sahakian wrote:

<quoted text>
Volga you are a fine person and I know where you are coming from.
One can agree to disagree without getting personal.I have a feeling in your real life your a fine gentlemen.
I am doing ok.Raising two boys and everything else that life throws at me.
I see in the end as one planet and not small,large countries etc.
Stock Market dominates everyone and it does not discriminate if you are Mexican,Greek,Armenian or Turk.In global economy nationalism is already in the back seat.It does not matter if one agrees or not facts dictate otherwise.
Regards

KURDIS wrote:

<quoted text>
It is a part of our moral duty is to do damage control:TO AVOID THE WOREST, or make what we want at maximum cost to all sides.

We read in labanise papers , british german and some turkish the numbers of Kurds killed all alegedly for being a tererrorist. NJHo nation with good conciouse can bermitt this criminal act.What is the proofs that they were terorriest, what are their name ,how did they look like ,not a single voice in 70 million .

Before a terorriest goes dawn on the average they must have sent to hell at least sixteen.

A guirela trained , to take inetiative , he or she is unknown ,they know their field of operation , their oponant is a paid mercenry who have no idea why he has to do what he is doing.

So to kill a ten Kurdish guerila ,if they are guirela a hndred dead Turkish soldiers must be shown at least , so that guirela expert believe in the story.

The truth is this is a campiagn of random killing of intemedation by the Turkish gun men.
Now ,their come a day soon in which a pay back will be exacted.

No damage control is possible the Turkish army done its worest , Kurds must do their best.
As far democacy matters , sell that idea to the European they needed more then we do.