Croats were ancient Turk tribe Kurbati (white ogura)

KUR-BAT HOR-VAT white croats>WHITE OGURA (lower class turkic tribe) were brought over to central europe from caucasus as vassals of turkic AVARS.the kur bati (hor vati) formed union with local slav tribes (formation of white croatia) & eventually over-came Avar Lordship in a series od decisive battles.the surviveing avars were absorbed into the new kur-bat (hor-vat) tribe.the founding brothers of the new kur-bati nation (hor-vati) nation were Klukas, lobelos, Muhle, Hrobatos & sisters Tuga & buga > ( Latin Spelling of Names).,arrived in the balkans on the shores of the northern adriatic sea forming the new kur-bat (horvat)>(hrvatistan) nation. the four brothers names & sisters names without Latin Spelling are of actual Turkic origin. ref. "In Search of the Lost Tribe" & the forming of the croatian (hrvatistan)nation.: by Historian/scholar Ozman Karatay

No the croats of the turks of central europe! The hungarians and the szekely of the grandchilds of Attila and the cousins of the turks!!!!!!!!!!4

There is a place in today's Macedonia called Kumanova, Kumans had come central europe and balkans long before Ottomans arrived but they lost in native people.It is a proof pre-ottoman Turk existence.Some Historians claim that those christian turks helped ottomans conquer the balkans
http://pt.scribd.com/doc/88160981/Cumans-and-...

Yes, and very lot of cumans live in Hungary in the Kunság.

The Kur-bati Hor-vati (croat)with slav alies rebeled against Avar lordship apparently at the behest of the Byzantium Empire.

Todays Kurbat people are dispersed from areas of pakistan, through persia, arab lands, kurdish lands & Turkish lands & so speak a variety of different languages & are mostly of muslim faith.

HUNman wrote:

Yes, and very lot of cumans live in Hungary in the Kunság.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Yes, but the cumans not different the "real" hungarians and the kumans in Russia called polovec and the polvecis joined the sem-nomad hungarians in the stiepp. The matyós and the palóces are the descendants of the polovecis. The palóces mixed with the slovaks because they liove in the mountains. And yes the I read the kurbats in some frank chronicle but not the all of croatian people's ancestors the kurbats.

Khazar Turks
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HUNman wrote:

Yes, but the cumans not different the "real" hungarians and the kumans in Russia called polovec and the polvecis joined the sem-nomad hungarians in the stiepp. The matyós and the palóces are the descendants of the polovecis. The palóces mixed with the slovaks because they liove in the mountains. And yes the I read the kurbats in some frank chronicle but not the all of croatian people's ancestors the kurbats.

The Kipchaks and Cumans spoke a Turkic language.
do you know mamluks state in egypy ? Baibars was a Kipchak warrior/CumanTurk.Real name of Mamluk state : devlet ut turkiye.(meaning turkish state)

kipchaks in macaristan-hungary

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

bizim ekmegimizni ber bizge but-butun kunde (kipcak)

bizim ekmegimizi ver bize butun gunler(turkish)

bizim atamiz kim-sing kokte(cuman)
bizim atamiz ki sensin gokte (istanbul turkish)

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

HUNman wrote:

Yes, but the cumans not different the "real" hungarians and the kumans in Russia called polovec and the polvecis joined the sem-nomad hungarians in the stiepp. The matyós and the palóces are the descendants of the polovecis. The palóces mixed with the slovaks because they liove in the mountains. And yes the I read the kurbats in some frank chronicle but not the all of croatian people's ancestors the kurbats.

Research ref.:Turkish Historian Osman Karatay : Croats were Turkish Tribe "In search of the Lost Tribe" the development of croatian nation.

Ossetians: Turks or Iranians?
http://scythianss.blogspot.com/

In a frank chronicle The converted of the Avars it comes for the kurbats. In the chronicle the avars of croatia is a very little tribe and the avars is an tribe-alliance so not only turks the avars but the main part of avars is turkic !

Greetings from Hungary!!!!!!!!!

PS: Yes i know the hungarian cumans (my grandparent have some cuman blood too), but the kuns aren't use the cuman language since the 16th century.

el salvador wrote:

Ossetians: Turks or Iranians?
http://scythianss.blogspot.com/

I don't know but caucasians is close contact with the turks (turanians). And some yazigs (an ossetian tribe) live in hungary near the cumans (because the ancestors of yazigs the minions of the cumans). Unfortunately the yazigs forgot their language. So I think the ossets at some level the relations of the turks.

Greetings from Hungary!
Éljenek a székelyek!

el salvador wrote:

Ossetians: Turks or Iranians?
http://scythianss.blogspot.com/

Ossetians speak an iranic related language. the majority of people from georgia & armenia are of iranic extraction.

Azerbaijanians were originaly an iranic speaking people but theyre iranic language was watered down with turkic influences after being constantly under turkic occupation through-out history.

And the Szekelys??????????