Chinese stores looted in Tonga riots

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Steward wrote:

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Wow!!!Wow!!!Wow!!!! Step back and have a goooood look my friend. They maybe lazy as many in other country around the world. After spending 10 years working as a volunteer, teaching in different secondary school in this beautiful island, I came to realize how proud they are in their heritage, which they were never been colonized by any country with their superpower.
I do not think that you understand what you talking about. If they are lazy, there won't be enough food. I learn from my friends in Tonga after returned for nearly 20 years now, that there are more food of all kind, even potatoes and green vegetables in the market then ever before.
So, if they are fat and lazy, at least they are not in anyway trouble to anyone as they grow their own.
But if you are talking about the trouble with the Chinece in Tonga, I think you must try to find the fact before you classify people with their behaviour.
While in Tonga, there were few criminal committed by Chinece against Chience, and it is strange to see them fighting each other. Never the less, I am not trying to protect the Tongan as they are also committed crime as well. However after the riot few years ago, all the people that claim to committed crime, in burning houses and businesses were taking to Court. From hundreds that was taking to court, only a few found to be guilty.

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Krishnan wrote:

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That is a LIE! Tonga was colonised by the British for almost a hundred years. What do you teach? Scuba diving!

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ikinoleni wrote:

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Krishnan, ummm british protectorate 'til 1970 NOT colonized...

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Krishnan wrote:

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British Protectorate, Residency, etc.
What is the different, ask yourself?
When the British had its army or Consul with veto power, including the right to manage its foreign policy, it is a colony. Otherwise why did it need the British consent to become INDEPENDENCE in 1970 only.
Whether it is Indian in Fiji or Chinese in Tonga, they were just ordinary business people trying to earn a living.
Why did the natives riot against them? Because these incidence were instigated by greedy politicians.
Tonga was one the few island state that recognized Taiwan until the island switch sides. Many of these Chinese in Tonga were Taiwanese.

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Krishnan wrote:

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British Protectorate, Residency, etc.
What is the different, ask yourself?
When the British had its army or Consul with veto power, including the right to manage its foreign policy, it is a colony. Otherwise why did it need the British consent to become INDEPENDENCE in 1970 only.
Whether it is Indian in Fiji or Chinese in Tonga, they were just ordinary business people trying to earn a living.
Why did the natives riot against them? Because these incidence were instigated by greedy politicians.
Tonga was one the few island state that recognized Taiwan until the island switch sides. Many of these Chinese in Tonga were Taiwanese.

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Krishnan wrote:

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That is a LIE! Tonga was colonised by the British for almost a hundred years. What do you teach? Scuba diving!

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ddeagle wrote:

Those simple minded Tongan easily brainwashed, by devil westerners (especially politicians) to hate Chinese for no good reasons !!

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Steward wrote:

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Colonize means establish a colony or colonies in (a country or area) or settle as colonists. or a group of settlers in a new country (whether or not already inhabited) fully or partly subject to the mother country. And the word protectorate simply means "a state that is contral and protected by another for a period of time agreeble by both state".
My friend, I hope this will set some light on your view regarding Tonga and other part of the Pacific Region. They are peaceful and beautiful area to bring up children. Perhaps you may question, about Fiji coup few years ago? That is true to a degree. But that coup never kill anybody. Those small place have their own unigue way of life. I was surprice to see few European lived in this Island of Tonga for years, which few of them expressed that they will not go back home to Europe. Several family from Irag and Iran, they said that they already become permanant resdence in Tonga. Please don't get me wrong. I am not in any way standing up for the people of Tonga. I am only explained how greatful I am to continue contact with my good friend in Tonga. They offer me and my family more, in term of vegetables, beautiful pineapple, water melon etc. I am sure I din't give them enough as I have very little income as a volunteer.
I invite you my friend Krishnan to pay a visit to the Kingdom of Tonga. One things that I forgot to mention here, and that is my observationed of Tongan was that they are very proud people. Though they may be poor financialy, but they are very rich abundantly in term of healthy character, phycically strong and well supply of food of different variety, which can provide the whole contry of this small island, and don't need a lot of import rice from overseas, which is a good things. And again, their freedom of expression their heart and mind showed me that they were never ever been colonize by any state.
I hope this personal opinon of mind help you understand a few things about the beautiful country of Tonga and its people.

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Steward wrote:

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Colonize means establish a colony or colonies in (a country or area) or settle

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Krishnan wrote:

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Tell you something. Do not try to waste your time trying to defend the British Colonialist with a slave from your former British Empire like us. Trust me, we do know what is British Protectorate more so than you. There is no different!
A peep into the past!
The Federated Malay States: British Protectorate headed by a British High Commissioner (Governor of the Straits Settlements); consisting of the States of Negeri Sembilan, Pahang, Perak and Selangor.
The Unfederated Malay States : British protectorate under the tutelage of a British Adviser in each State responsible to the British Commissioner, consisting of Johor, Kedah, Kelantan, Perlis and Terengganu.
Sarawak : British protectorate ruled by the Brooke family. Capital: Kuching.
Sabah : British protectorate, ruled by the Chartered Company of the British North Borneo. Capital: Jesselton (Kota Kinabalu).
James W.W.Birch was the British Resident to Perak. Like all British Protectorate including Tonga, his role was to advise the Sultan on the administration of the state, etc.
In 1875, when Sultan was accused of conspiring with various Perak chiefs and assassinated the British Resident Birch because he interfered directly into the administration of the state, the British Army was send in and they arrested the Sultan and his chiefs. After that they were either hanged or sent into exile and another puppet Sultan was installed in his place.
The Pangkor Treaty introduced the Residential System to Malaya
Arose out of the new Policy of British intervention
A system of indirect British rule in the Malay States that had accepted British protection
4 states only : Perak, Selangor Pahang and Negri Sembilan
The Residential System
1. A British Resident was appointed in each state
2. To advise Sultan on all matters of administration and government except those concerning Malay religion and custom
3. The Sultan remained as Head of State
4. The Resident was there to advise and not to rule
5. The Sultan was obliged to act on the Resident’s advice

kokong wrote:

Protectorate ?? Settlements? Territories? Colonies? words coined by western colonizers, all same, They sent in their, adviser, high commissioner, King's representatives, mayor, governor, all same same,
all ugly tricks from western colonizers !!
just like the modern great Satan USA, say many small countries need protection from USA !

bill wrote:

krishna you fool,, the Taiwanese in Tonga are Taiwanese,, the commies are the chinese,, and it is the commies that have no face,, and make a fool of their race. surprised that the Tongans didnt eat them

Krishnan wrote:

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Only the former slaves of the British Empires will understand the meaning.
How can one who posts as Poly KING from San Francisco who has never ever resided in former colony ever understand the feeling of the former slaves there especially the Indian coolies who were forcefully kidnapped from India to another colony under the British Empires?
> Weak Analogy, Weak Comparison, and Total Ignorance of the Tongan History and political makeup from being to end...
You lived in USA. Tell us why you are defending the British Colonialist role. Maybe you are reciting history from the British themselves who try to justify their imperialistic roles. Most of the politician in Tonga I understand are pretty anti-British themselves like most of the former colonies. Why do Tonga need to seek British consent to obtain Independence if they are what you say they are? Does not make any sense, does it? Stop fooling other!
With so many racist remarks coming from the Tonga or Fiji about the Chinese or Indian, frankly I think it is not safe for us. Moreover why should we spend money to support the economy of a racist nation. You will be more successful with descendants of white colonialists after all that is what you Tongan and Fijian wants.
I assure you, the people here are much more open minded, genuine and friendly. We have a diverse cultures, more tourist destinations you can think of, beautiful beaches, caves, mountains, tropical forest, beautiful waterfalls, scuba diving, cheap and exotic foods, exotic birds like hornbills, kingfisher, and flowers, shopping paradises than that a boring place called Fiji or Tonga.
You will never get bored in Malaysia.
A tiny island and so many racial politics, so many narrow minded people staying there. All the smiles there I believe are make believe.
In Malaysia, Indians and Chinese share many things in common and we are like brethen-in-arm. That is why when Fiji ask for the Chinese to replace the Indian businesses in Fiji, the Chinese just ignored them.

Poly KING wrote:

<quoted text>I'm sorry, there's too many terrorists in Malaysia. Muslim country equals racism, inequality, sexism, religious intolerance, and of course nondeoderant atmosphere. Don't go to boast about a country that is intolerant of Christians as well as other nonMuslim orders... sorry, who u trying bullshiett...
You seem like an angry Liberal that's been treated bad by some white guy off the street. Are you a cabbie that couldn't satisfy the white tourist? missing out on your tips? hahahahahahaha

Poly KING wrote:

<quoted text>I'm sorry, there's too many terrorists in Malaysia. Muslim country equals racism, inequality, sexism, religious intolerance, and of course nondeoderant atmosphere. Don't go to boast about a country that is intolerant of Christians as well as other nonMuslim orders... sorry, who u trying bullshiett...
You seem like an angry Liberal that's been treated bad by some white guy off the street. Are you a cabbie that couldn't satisfy the white tourist? missing out on your tips? hahahahahahaha