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Yes, but the amount of people of the working class that has started to travel to the DR in the last 2-4 years have increase, such tren have hurted our "paradores" which are part of our tourism.
We have to investigate what kind of clientele go to the paradores. and appeal to them.

It is my perception that our paradores are frequented by mostly locals. For example, I used to visit La Familia (in Las Croabas); most of my neighbors own second homes in your area.

Nah! our islands cannot compete with the rest of the Caribbean...we have to attract customers from our nation, let the Europeans go to Jamaica, DRep. or their own departments or colonies.

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May 11, 2010
 
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Hotel occupancy spike in the Dominican Republic
Caribeinside.com
Friday, 19/09/2003
Occupancy rates in hotels of the Dominican Republic were up by 16 percent in the month of August compared to the same span of time in 2002, sources close to the National Hotels and Restaurants Association reported.
In the aforesaid period of time, occupancy rates peaked a staggering 84.6 percent overall, a clear-cut signal that recovery is definitely marching on in the country.
Punta Cana, La Romana and Boca Chica (east) continue to be the regions posting the heftiest numbers with 86.2, 82.2 and 65.2 percent respectively, while the northern part of the island nation was dominated by Puerto Plata (63.4 percent), Sousa (62.9 percent) and Samana (58.4 percent).
As far as Santo Domingo is concerned, the nation’s capital took a four-point nosedive in the first eight months of 2003 by plummeting from 66.7 percent last year to 63.4 percent this time around.
At the same time, the Dominican Central Bank disclosed that revenues churned out by the local tourist industry have soared 18 percent so far this year.
Try and compare the amount of money spent in the Dom. Rep.(with their almost 50,000 hotel rooms) with that spent here (with our scarcely 12,000). Then we'll exchange.

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May 11, 2010
 
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Puerto Rico is a kick ass island, the historical,places, the beaches, the food, but the politicians has to focus more on that and less in their own benefits.
We have to deconstruct the kind of old game (the govt. is responsible for everything) and start getting creative (by our own account).

It´s cheaper (every which way) to take shots at politicians (and not define and identify solutions). Too much whining....

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May 11, 2010
 
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Try and compare the amount of money spent in the Dom. Rep.(with their almost 50,000 hotel rooms) with that spent here (with our scarcely 12,000). Then we'll exchange.
Jorge
Of course, the money coming into a country from outside is economically more beneficial than circulating the same amount from within a country. Don't misunderstand--both are beneficial but money from outside tourism is just like an export of products.
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Of course, the money coming into a country from outside is economically more beneficial than circulating the same amount from within a country. Don't misunderstand--both are beneficial but money from outside tourism is just like an export of products.
LOL

We appeal to a segment of our own domestic customers, a market (numbered in the millions) way stronger than those islands´ internal domestic markets.

The Dominican Rep is a foreign country which depends on the international market (as does Jamaica and Cuba).

We don´t.

That's my point.
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LOL
We appeal to a segment of our own domestic customers, a market (numbered in the millions) way stronger than those islands´ internal domestic markets.
The Dominican Rep is a foreign country which depends on the international market (as does Jamaica and Cuba).
We don´t.
That's my point.
I agree that DR and Cuba don't have nearly as many people that can afford a weekend in a hotel as Puerto Rico has. Nor does their populace have access to the credit markets that make Puerto Rico such a consumerist nation.

But there is no glory in saying Puerto Rico doesn't need or want those tourists it can't attract anyway.
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So our Fellow Americans do not visit other states????
Is that what your post is about?
We do not need the kind of tourists who can't appreciate our unique culture. These can keep their monies and take their business somewhere else.
To Jorge;;; I am not saying that our Fellow American don't visit other states but most people want a different experience when they go on vacation rather than what they lefted at home...
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I agree that DR and Cuba don't have nearly as many people that can afford a weekend in a hotel as Puerto Rico has. Nor does their populace have access to the credit markets that make Puerto Rico such a consumerist nation.
But there is no glory in saying Puerto Rico doesn't need or want those tourists it can't attract anyway.
Again, read my message carefully.
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To Jorge;;; I am not saying that our Fellow American don't visit other states but most people want a different experience when they go on vacation rather than what they lefted at home...
And I tell, if you can´t find any difference...go to another place; take your money somewhere else.

That´s what I do whenever I´m not satisfied with a "product".
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May 11, 2010
 
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<quoted text> Have you seen or stayed at any of our Parsdores lately? Some of them need a badly needed sprucing up?. They're also considerably more expensive than the D.R's hotels and resorts and offer less amneties!.........However, when you factor in the cost of the air fare the D.R of course is more expensive. The Paradores don't exactly give the best in service, although they are located in scenic locations. Simply put, their needs to be better govermnent investment in the Paradores, service should be emphasized, employees wages should be raised (hopefully that would be an impetus for giving better service). They need to be seriously spruced up!. There should be more Paradores built or present ones expanded.(of course all of this takes a considerable amount of money and years of red tape to get through)........ There is not enough space with what they presently have. We have stayed in them with family on the island, they get Jammed pack during certain times of the year. They're fun for a P.R holiday. However, they can be quite noisy also..........TPMP 35
i agree
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Jorge wrote:
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We have to deconstruct the kind of old game (the govt. is responsible for everything) and start getting creative (by our own account).
It´s cheaper (every which way) to take shots at politicians (and not define and identify solutions). Too much whining....
Jorge
I agree with you however whenever someone try to start something good, there is so much red tape, some people either give up or go some where else.
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Jorge wrote:
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We have to deconstruct the kind of old game (the govt. is responsible for everything) and start getting creative (by our own account).
It´s cheaper (every which way) to take shots at politicians (and not define and identify solutions). Too much whining....
Jorge
I dont is whining, I think is reality, sure I cant blame the government for my descisions, but there are other main ones who affect all of us living in the island that depend on them. There are many things that can be done here, but if it doesnt benefit my own, whether is a good idea or not, it wont happen, or what is also called red tape.
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I agree with you however whenever someone try to start something good, there is so much red tape, some people either give up or go some where else.
As posted...we, all of us, have to change everything and you are witnessing the resistance (every day).

It was the best of times....it was the worst of times.

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I dont is whining, I think is reality, sure I cant blame the government for my descisions, but there are other main ones who affect all of us living in the island that depend on them. There are many things that can be done here, but if it doesnt benefit my own, whether is a good idea or not, it wont happen, or what is also called red tape.
It has taken the territory over 56 yrs. to get to this point.

A deconstruction is not as easy as a destruction.

We have to, carefully, rebuild with the least collateral damage as possible.

Interesting, isn´t it?

We have to believe in our own ability to do it.

We have to let others do the blaming and lamenting!

El lamento borincano se acabó, for good!

Jorge
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It has taken the territory over 56 yrs. to get to this point.
A deconstruction is not as easy as a destruction.
We have to, carefully, rebuild with the least collateral damage as possible.
Interesting, isn´t it?
We have to believe in our own ability to do it.
We have to let others do the blaming and lamenting!
El lamento borincano se acabó, for good!
Jorge
La condicion economica de PR no deja otra opcion. Vamos a ver que sucede.
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La condicion economica de PR no deja otra opcion. Vamos a ver que sucede.
Soy de la opinión que Washington, al negarle reiteradamente, cualquier desarrollo y soberanía al actual territorio (y acabar con el mov. independentista, durante 112 años) decidió por nosotros. Cualquier petición es (prácticamente) académica...es cuestión de tiempo y cuando el Congreso esté seguro de una petición (sólida) a favor de la estadidad.

De lo contrario, el Congreso haría un ridículo y sería el hazmerreir de la comunidad internacional.

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Soy de la opinión que Washington, al negarle reiteradamente, cualquier desarrollo y soberanía al actual territorio (y acabar con el mov. independentista, durante 112 años) decidió por nosotros. Cualquier petición es (prácticamente) académica...es cuestión de tiempo y cuando el Congreso esté seguro de una petición (sólida) a favor de la estadidad.
De lo contrario, el Congreso haría un ridículo y sería el hazmerreir de la comunidad internacional.
Jorge
LOL

Congress is often the laughing stock of the international community. They see themselves above the international community.

You expect 'Congress to come to their senses,' believing that YOUR sense is the same as theirs. You ignore history to come to this conclusion. That seems unusual for a man who says he has studied history.

Congress ignores silence. Congress ignores insular insults. Congress ignores the territories, unless it wants something. Guam is the favored step-child now.

Besides, the island of Puerto Rico is in a cycle of self-destruction now. Only the 4 million citizens in the states who call themselves Puerto Ricans matter to Congress, one district at a time.
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May 13, 2010
 
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LOL
Congress is often the laughing stock of the international community. They see themselves above the international community.
You expect 'Congress to come to their senses,' believing that YOUR sense is the same as theirs. You ignore history to come to this conclusion. That seems unusual for a man who says he has studied history.
Congress ignores silence. Congress ignores insular insults. Congress ignores the territories, unless it wants something. Guam is the favored step-child now.
Besides, the island of Puerto Rico is in a cycle of self-destruction now. Only the 4 million citizens in the states who call themselves Puerto Ricans matter to Congress, one district at a time.
LOL hahahahahahahahahaha

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