Jamaica favoured by hotel financiers

This is proof that the Puerto Rico Tourism Company is a dismal failure.

NOT REALLY wrote:

This is proof that the Puerto Rico Tourism Company is a dismal failure.

No, that's not it.

That's because we lack land for all inclusive resorts (enclaves where tourists are locked in and locals are kept out).

Our tourism is an urban one while tourists can roam around freely thru the island, lacking a police escort to well kept sites (unlike Jamaica), where the only sites lack the necessary infrastructure to get there and govt. needs to protect them from Kingston mafia groups.

Jorge

Jorge wrote:

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No, that's not it.
That's because we lack land for all inclusive resorts (enclaves where tourists are locked in and locals are kept out).
Our tourism is an urban one while tourists can roam around freely thru the island, lacking a police escort to well kept sites (unlike Jamaica), where the only sites lack the necessary infrastructure to get there and govt. needs to protect them from Kingston mafia groups.
Jorge

All of the red tape required for a hotel to open on the island is ridiculous. The PRTC has not sufficiently aided the process of acquiring new hotel rooms on the island. One case for example is the Four Seasons Hotel which tried unsuccessfully for years to open a luxury hotel in Puerto Rico. The government treated this company with indifference. Could it be that they would not pay bribes or fill the outreached hands with money? The PRTC has not provided the venues that tourists desire at a vacation destination.

We went to jamaica a couple of years back. The country is beautiful. A lot less unspoiled than Puerto Rico. Very beautiful place. The only problem was the complex we were in has barbed wire around it. It was an uncomfortable feeling. When my wife and i first spotted it. We laughed. Thinking that this was some kndo f luxury jail. For 1,500 a pop for a week. We were not expecting barbed wire. The few day trips we took (dunns river falls, Port Antonio river cruise, and city of montego bay) we had to be in groups and with an escort. Also didn't like the guys selling Ganja right on the beach. It's hard to say no. They are quite persistent.......... There was a sizzle to the air in the country. Heh, it's third world. Jamaicans are a people full of life and proud. However, are they friendly off the bat like Puerto Ricans? NO!. Would we rush to go back? NO!.........The only thing i can say comparing the two models of tourism (you really can't compare though)... Jamaica is a lot less developed and has a rugged beauty that was long ago destroyed in Puerto Rico.(although our island is beautiful).........They were the first island to offer the allinclusive model on a mass scale in the Carribbean. The D.R copied off their model and have been quite successful at it. Can i realistically compare D.R to Jamaica? YES!.......D.R wins!.....Hands down!........TPMP 35

Paradisius had an all inclusive in Puerto Rico for a while. The economics of Puerto Rico don't favor such an approach to tourism in Puerto Rico.

The model seems to thrive in the Dominican Republic however. I know many Puerto Ricans who live on the island that take vacations in the DR at all-inclusive resorts.

Factchecker wrote:

Paradisius had an all inclusive in Puerto Rico for a while. The economics of Puerto Rico don't favor such an approach to tourism in Puerto Rico.
The model seems to thrive in the Dominican Republic however. I know many Puerto Ricans who live on the island that take vacations in the DR at all-inclusive resorts.

We stayedat paradisius for a weekend wehen we were in P.R this past summer for my birthday. They had a special promotion going on or else to be honest with you. We could not have been able to afford it. It was prohibitevely expensive. The locale was nice, but it looked so artificial. Hardly any vegetation. Most of the clients at that time were locals. It was July. Very noisy. A great view of El Yunque mountain. That will soon be changed with all the new condos going up. Another ecological disaster. The beach water was likev a lake, although it was pretty. The food was pretty good, on the same level with the better all inclusives in the D.R......... We still enjoy D.R's all inclusives better..........TPMP 35

Factchecker wrote:

Paradisius had an all inclusive in Puerto Rico for a while. The economics of Puerto Rico don't favor such an approach to tourism in Puerto Rico.
The model seems to thrive in the Dominican Republic however. I know many Puerto Ricans who live on the island that take vacations in the DR at all-inclusive resorts.

In business, you either give the customers what they want, or you die in business.

Puerto Rico is messed up because they never understood this simple concept! ok,,,let's hear all the anti TJM comments now! 3,2,1

NOT REALLY wrote:

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All of the red tape required for a hotel to open on the island is ridiculous. The PRTC has not sufficiently aided the process of acquiring new hotel rooms on the island. One case for example is the Four Seasons Hotel which tried unsuccessfully for years to open a luxury hotel in Puerto Rico. The government treated this company with indifference. Could it be that they would not pay bribes or fill the outreached hands with money? The PRTC has not provided the venues that tourists desire at a vacation destination.

No, no bribes were involved...LOL

TJM wrote:

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In business, you either give the customers what they want, or you die in business.
Puerto Rico is messed up because they never understood this simple concept! ok,,,let's hear all the anti TJM comments now! 3,2,1

Its too simple....LOL

Jorge wrote:

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Its too simple....LOL

Another one of his off-the-wall comments based on ignorance. The fact is that all-inclusives are not profitable in Puerto Rico because of the Federal minimum wage laws applicable to Puerto Rico. The current minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. There are other costs that are higher in Puerto Rico which ultimately make Puerto Rico less competitive. However, if you shop around or go off-season, you can get great rates. I personally don't care for all-inclusives, I want the freedom to experiment with the culture of whatever country or island I visit.

NOT REALLY wrote:

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Another one of his off-the-wall comments based on ignorance. The fact is that all-inclusives are not profitable in Puerto Rico because of the Federal minimum wage laws applicable to Puerto Rico. The current minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. There are other costs that are higher in Puerto Rico which ultimately make Puerto Rico less competitive. However, if you shop around or go off-season, you can get great rates. I personally don't care for all-inclusives, I want the freedom to experiment with the culture of whatever country or island I visit.

Cut middle management out then!!! They do nothing anyway! The soldiers in the field are what make the money for a company. That is not a Puerto Rican thing, it is a business thing that not even the USA companies cannot understand.

In business, you either change, or die!

NOT REALLY wrote:

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Another one of his off-the-wall comments based on ignorance. The fact is that all-inclusives are not profitable in Puerto Rico because of the Federal minimum wage laws applicable to Puerto Rico. The current minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. There are other costs that are higher in Puerto Rico which ultimately make Puerto Rico less competitive. However, if you shop around or go off-season, you can get great rates. I personally don't care for all-inclusives, I want the freedom to experiment with the culture of whatever country or island I visit.

I told you once and will tell it a thousand more....read about the place you're about to visit.

Some of these "paradises on earth" in these waters are not what it seems. See what happened to that girl in Holland's Aruba (of all places).

TJM wrote:

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Cut middle management out then!!! They do nothing anyway! The soldiers in the field are what make the money for a company. That is not a Puerto Rican thing, it is a business thing that not even the USA companies cannot understand.
In business, you either change, or die!

Now, I'mm confused...LOL

It's a Puerto Rican or American thing?????

Listen, you have to be consistent in your messages....LOL

Jorge wrote:

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Now, I'mm confused...LOL
It's a Puerto Rican or American thing?????
Listen, you have to be consistent in your messages....LOL

I think I am, show me when I am not

TJM wrote:

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I think I am, show me when I am not

You do this on purpose...confusing boricuas, don't you....

Jorge wrote:

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You do this on purpose...confusing boricuas, don't you....

again, you answer with another question...

TJM wrote:

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Cut middle management out then!!! They do nothing anyway! The soldiers in the field are what make the money for a company. That is not a Puerto Rican thing, it is a business thing that not even the USA companies cannot understand.
In business, you either change, or die!

Give it a rest for this issue is out of your league. Why do you think all U.S. retailers import everything from China or comparable economies? Labor is much cheaper and more cost competitive. Retailers make more money, it's all economics.

Jorge wrote:

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I told you once and will tell it a thousand more....read about the place you're about to visit.
Some of these "paradises on earth" in these waters are not what it seems. See what happened to that girl in Holland's Aruba (of all places).

Jorge, that can happen anywhere including Puerto Rico. Remember the pregnant jogger tourist who was abducted by a deranged Puerto Rican man on the island and savagely killed?

NOT REALLY wrote:

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Jorge, that can happen anywhere including Puerto Rico. Remember the pregnant jogger tourist who was abducted by a deranged Puerto Rican man on the island and savagely killed?

You missed my point....

You're well versed on our issues for obvious reasons. The point I'm trying to convey is to get as much information on the places you're about to visit, before getting there< as you would about us.

Jorge

Jorge wrote:

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You missed my point....
You're well versed on our issues for obvious reasons. The point I'm trying to convey is to get as much information on the places you're about to visit, before getting there< as you would about us.
Jorge

I can agree with you on this point. That is one of my fortes, I always read about my destinations long before I arrive. I want to know the "good, the bad and the ugly". That way there are no surprises and I get the most benefit out of the visit.