South Sudan should be Called Kush after the split

Kush would be a good name for the civilization that existed in the general area!

Leave the Fake Arabs to meet the eventual misery!

That is a good suggestion,but before we have our indepedence ,it is better first we struggle to attain it..How can you talk of something meanwhile you are not participating.?Who is going to do it for you.Com e down here so that we fight together.

Bravo wrote:

That is a good suggestion,but before we have our indepedence ,it is better first we struggle to attain it..How can you talk of something meanwhile you are not participating.?Who is going to do it for you.Com e down here so that we fight together.

There is no fight left, just vote to leave the damn republic and, make sure they stay out of the Affairs of the newly formed state...

I feel bad for the other minorities who will be left in "North Sudan" but, that will be their battle to fight!!!!

The Republic of Kush it is!!! Someone needs to get a national anthem together and, time to start drafting the constitution!!!!

Bye bye North Sudan!!!

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Reply toXYXX,Are you sure,southerners will vote for separation??????.If suppose,southerners vote for separation,Is the government of south sudan ready to make a country??????.Frankly speaking Mr Salva Kiir Mayardit and whoever with him are not qualified to rule the country,It is better to step down and give chance for others who are competence to do the job.He can go back home and look after the cows.It is the time of Educated people.

Cause i'm an Pan Africanist I believe in African unity and I wish that North/South Sudan could reconsile thier diffrences, start a healing process, and bring about an renaissance and propserity in the land of Kush that would benefit all Sudanese citizens equally regardless of religion or ethnic background but I can understand Southern Sudanese position for wanting to breakwaway from a Sudan dominated by racist and oppressive inferiority complex/identity crisis having Afro-arab rejects considering Southern Sudanese sad recent history with Khartoum.

Northern Sudanese(whom claim to be ayrabs) are the whores, bastards, and slaves of the ayrab world, traitors of Africa and the worst thing to happen to Kush/Nubia.

The Darfur crisis/genocide is all the more proof that Sudanese ayrabz haven't changed thier devilish behavior and should never be trusted.

As far as Kush...I like it...Kush was a great African(Sudanese in particular) civlization....

c diddy wrote:

Cause i'm an Pan Africanist I believe in African unity and I wish that North/South Sudan could reconsile thier diffrences, start a healing process, and bring about an renaissance and propserity in the land of Kush that would benefit all Sudanese citizens equally regardless of religion or ethnic background but I can understand Southern Sudanese position for wanting to breakwaway from a Sudan dominated by racist and oppressive inferiority complex/identity crisis having Afro-arab rejects considering Southern Sudanese sad recent history with Khartoum.
Northern Sudanese(whom claim to be ayrabs) are the whores, bastards, and slaves of the ayrab world, traitors of Africa and the worst thing to happen to Kush/Nubia.
The Darfur crisis/genocide is all the more proof that Sudanese ayrabz haven't changed thier devilish behavior and should never be trusted.
As far as Kush...I like it...Kush was a great African(Sudanese in particular) civlization....

c-diddy , i got agree with some of the stuff that you are saying such as a united Sudan and also about the African how have been brainwashed(arabization) but you gotta know that in Sudan ,they are also some Arabs people and Afro-Arabs such as the Banu Kanz who married some of the royal member family of Kingdom or the Juhayna who married with Some Nubian Princess and also since Sudan is not far from the Arabian Peninsula since they are only separated by the Red Sea .look at the definition of what is Arab according to the Arab League : a person whose language is Arabic, who lives in an Arabic speaking country, who is in sympathy with the aspirations of the Arabic speaking peoples which i kinda disagree with cause it that case since they are lot of person in Africa who speak Arabic such as in Sudan,Eritrea,Chad,Somalia,Mau ritinia and other but they are not Arabs but Africans and you got also the genealogical ,the linguistic and political definition of the Arab identity .
one question : when you said that Northern Sudanese are whore ,do you also consider Nubian as whore since they are also a part of Northern Sudan ?

tshad wrote:

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c-diddy , i got agree with some of the stuff that you are saying such as a united Sudan and also about the African how have been brainwashed(arabization) but you gotta know that in Sudan ,they are also some Arabs people and Afro-Arabs such as the Banu Kanz who married some of the royal member family of Kingdom or the Juhayna who married with Some Nubian Princess and also since Sudan is not far from the Arabian Peninsula since they are only separated by the Red Sea .look at the definition of what is Arab according to the Arab League : a person whose language is Arabic, who lives in an Arabic speaking country, who is in sympathy with the aspirations of the Arabic speaking peoples which i kinda disagree with cause it that case since they are lot of person in Africa who speak Arabic such as in Sudan,Eritrea,Chad,Somalia,Mau ritinia and other but they are not Arabs but Africans and you got also the genealogical ,the linguistic and political definition of the Arab identity .
one question : when you said that Northern Sudanese are whore ,do you also consider Nubian as whore since they are also a part of Northern Sudan ?

yeah i know all that stuff...but my point is most Sudanese arabs are more culturally arab than actual ethnic arab cause they were conquered, enslaved, and arabasized by arab invadors and subsequently took on the identity of thier arab masters..
Some cowardly and weak Northern Sudanese leaders whored thier daughers to the arab invadors rather than fight on after Kush/Kemet was conquered...I realise there are some decendents among Sudanese arabs with legit arab mixture cause of these rapes and Sudanese prosituting their daughters to arab colonizers but for most Sudanes trace their most pure arab lineage thousands of years which hardly make them arab considering thier considerably more African which they pretend to not notice...That's equivalent to Italian Sicilians claiming to be African cause their ancestors were conquered and mixed with Moors.

Speaking a language don't make you part of that ethnic/raical group...I speak English but far from an Englishmen..Many native Central and South Americans people of Indian decent speak Spanish but far from Europeans.

one more thing...no i wasn't talking about Nubians...only the Northern Sudanese slaves whom took on the identity of thier conquerers and oppressors the arabs..namely Sudanese arabs.

c diddy wrote:

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yeah i know all that stuff...but my point is most Sudanese arabs are more culturally arab than actual ethnic arab cause they were conquered, enslaved, and arabasized by arab invadors and subsequently took on the identity of thier arab masters..
Some cowardly and weak Northern Sudanese leaders whored thier daughers to the arab invadors rather than fight on after Kush/Kemet was conquered...I realise there are some decendents among Sudanese arabs with legit arab mixture cause of these rapes and Sudanese prosituting their daughters to arab colonizers but for most Sudanes trace their most pure arab lineage thousands of years which hardly make them arab considering thier considerably more African which they pretend to not notice...That's equivalent to Italian Sicilians claiming to be African cause their ancestors were conquered and mixed with Moors.
Speaking a language don't make you part of that ethnic/raical group...I speak English but far from an Englishmen..Many native Central and South Americans people of Indian decent speak Spanish but far from Europeans.

ya you are right .according to certain site , they said that in Sudan ,Black are 52%, Arab make 39% of population , Beja 6%, foreigners 2%, other 1% but i'm kinda have doubt about that 39% cause the only ethnic group who are pure Arab are the Rashaida and i don't think that they make 39 % of Sudanese .

tshad wrote:

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ya you are right .according to certain site , they said that in Sudan ,Black are 52%, Arab make 39% of population , Beja 6%, foreigners 2%, other 1% but i'm kinda have doubt about that 39% cause the only ethnic group who are pure Arab are the Rashaida and

i don't think that they make 39 % of Sudanese .

exactly bro....i question the intentions of such sites that are in my opinion are painting Sudan under a Eurocentric lense as well as fueling if not justifying Afro-arab Sudanese tribes inferiority complex/dillusion by ignoring the fact that the vast majority of Sudanese arabs aren't blacks that adopted arab culture but pure arabs ..this furthers that divide between Afro-arab tribes and African tribes...

it's a joke how the Eurocentrics that made up those Sudan demographics made no distinction between the pure arab Rashida and Afro-Sudani arabs as if they are all one homogenous race of people when that's the furtherst thing from the truth but decided to make racial distinctions between Sudanese blacks(Afro Arabs, non arab tribes, and Beja) when outside of Rashida all Sudanese are blacks..Sudanese arabs are ethnically closer to other black Sudanese than arabs in the Middle East
this is equivalent to claiming that Kosovovian Albanians are arabs and the Serbs are white.

These type of sites Eurocentric sites are far from reliable sources to find information about Africa cause the authors are blinded by racism/ethnocitrism...I actually once read a profile on the web of Mauritania that claimed all non pure black Mauritians are white..Mind you most non pure black Mauritians are brown people that look arab or like mixed blacks...don't believe everything you read online

Adam Mousa wrote:

Reply toXYXX,Are you sure,southerners will vote for separation??????.If suppose,southerners vote for separation,Is the government of south sudan ready to make a country??????.Frankly speaking Mr Salva Kiir Mayardit and whoever with him are not qualified to rule the country,It is better to step down and give chance for others who are competence to do the job.He can go back home and look after the cows.It is the time of Educated people.

Is Omar Al Bashir competent to run a country??

Give me a break! Sudan is currently ruled by clowns...

Mr.Omer AlBashir is not competent to run a country, but he is better than Mr.Salva Kiir Mayardit.Omer AlBashir made alot of developments in his capacity as a president.Tel me a single development Salva Kiir Mayardit did in his capacity as a president of the south?He did nothing beside corruption,tribalism,lack of directive,poor administration,creating insecurity,and alot of things.Your uncle should go home and look after cows.

Adam Mousa wrote:

Mr.Omer AlBashir is not competent to run a country, but he is better than Mr.Salva Kiir Mayardit.Omer AlBashir made alot of developments in his capacity as a president.Tel me a single development Salva Kiir Mayardit did in his capacity as a president of the south?He did nothing beside corruption,tribalism,lack of directive,poor administration,creating insecurity,and alot of things.Your uncle should go home and look after cows.

Lets take your point one by one

Corruption- Omar Al Bashir is the king of corruption! There is a lot more money to steal in North Sudan thus, it is harder to noice

Tribalism- Are you serious??/ Omar Al Bashir is the king of tribalism! He has killed over 300,000 people because of Tribalism! He is currently under investigation because of tribalism!

lack of directive-The less said, the better!!!

poor administration- Is this a cruel joke?? Look at the lack of development outside the capital and, that will show you the level of administration...

creating insecurity- Once again are you serious?? Who could be worse than Omar??

Give us a break and, stop being a clown! Sudan has a lot of potential to be a very good country but, tribalism, Old boyism, religious fanaticism etc etc has rendered it a failed state...!!

At the end we will achieve or attain our independence as one nations,despite tribal differences