Tamil Homeland

Tamil ethnonationalist politics in Sri Lanka has always been sphereheaded by Jaffna Tamils as the so called grievances and the aspirations of the Sri Lankan Tamils are in reality those of the Jaffna Tamils. Tamils and the LTTE itself is very largely a Jaffna Tamil phenomenon. Batticaloa Tamils have over the years developed a contempt for the “Jaffna domination” and have always questioned the efficacy of Tamil nationalism of Jaffna Tamils as most recently manifested by the LTTE’s eastern commander Karuna’s challenge to the Jaffna dominated LTTE leadership. At the last election which was marred with rigging by the LTTE, the performance of the LTTE proxy TNA in he Eastern Province was 41.4 per cent while those who opposed LTTE obtained 58.6 per cent votes.
Indian Tamils were the descendents of the indentured laborers drawn from the poorer and lower caste segments of Tamil society in South India to work in the British plantations opened in the central highlands after forcibly confiscating the land from the Sinhalese in the 19th century. Still most of the Indian Tamils live in plantations but a large number of them have migrated into the cities in the rest of the country. Indian Tamils have over the years evolved their own political parties and have well integrated into the mainstream politics. They have held cabinet portfolios in all governments since 1970s. Indian Tamils have rejected the separatist politics of the LTTE. Colombo Tamils are the descendent of the Tamils who came from Jaffna to reside in Colombo after they were recruited by the British to work for them in the colonial administration and related services in the government. Some Tamils came to Colombo to take advantage of the expanding economic opportunities. These professional and business classes together comprise Colombo Tamils. Colombo Tamils have always voted with the two major political parties and have openly rejected separatism.
Then, LTTE simply cannot be the sole representatives of “Tamils” simply because Tamils live in Tamilnadu India. The LTTE is cannot be the sole representatives of the Sri Lanka Tamils as the Batticaloa Tamils have openly defied the LTTE. LTTE cannot even claim to be the sole representative of the Jaffna Tamils as a significant number of Jaffna Tamils have voted against the LTTE. The mere sharing of the same language by the LTTE and other Tamil groups in Sri Lanka does not qualify the former to be a representative let along the sole representative of Tamils. Thus, the claim that LTTE is the sole representative of Tamils is simply in error and a total fantasy without supportive empirical basis. The only argument in support of their claim is the baseless claim itself maintained by sheer intimidation and terror!

Colombo Tamil wrote:

Tamil ethnonationalist politics in Sri Lanka has always been sphereheaded by Jaffna Tamils as the so called grievances and the aspirations of the Sri Lankan Tamils are in reality those of the Jaffna Tamils. Tamils and the LTTE itself is very largely a Jaffna Tamil phenomenon. Batticaloa Tamils have over the years developed a contempt for the “Jaffna domination” and have always questioned the efficacy of Tamil nationalism of Jaffna Tamils as most recently manifested by the LTTE’s eastern commander Karuna’s challenge to the Jaffna dominated LTTE leadership. At the last election which was marred with rigging by the LTTE, the performance of the LTTE proxy TNA in he Eastern Province was 41.4 per cent while those who opposed LTTE obtained 58.6 per cent votes.
Indian Tamils were the descendents of the indentured laborers drawn from the poorer and lower caste segments of Tamil society in South India to work in the British plantations opened in the central highlands after forcibly confiscating the land from the Sinhalese in the 19th century. Still most of the Indian Tamils live in plantations but a large number of them have migrated into the cities in the rest of the country. Indian Tamils have over the years evolved their own political parties and have well integrated into the mainstream politics. They have held cabinet portfolios in all governments since 1970s. Indian Tamils have rejected the separatist politics of the LTTE. Colombo Tamils are the descendent of the Tamils who came from Jaffna to reside in Colombo after they were recruited by the British to work for them in the colonial administration and related services in the government. Some Tamils came to Colombo to take advantage of the expanding economic opportunities. These professional and business classes together comprise Colombo Tamils. Colombo Tamils have always voted with the two major political parties and have openly rejected separatism.
Then, LTTE simply cannot be the sole representatives of “Tamils” simply because Tamils live in Tamilnadu India. The LTTE is cannot be the sole representatives of the Sri Lanka Tamils as the Batticaloa Tamils have openly defied the LTTE. LTTE cannot even claim to be the sole representative of the Jaffna Tamils as a significant number of Jaffna Tamils have voted against the LTTE. The mere sharing of the same language by the LTTE and other Tamil groups in Sri Lanka does not qualify the former to be a representative let along the sole representative of Tamils. Thus, the claim that LTTE is the sole representative of Tamils is simply in error and a total fantasy without supportive empirical basis. The only argument in support of their claim is the baseless claim itself maintained by sheer intimidation and terror!

Since coming across topix by chance 2 days ago and reading all the postings with fascination and incredulity I could not help noticing there were no tamil voices from sri lanka and now I am happy to see one. All the tamil postings were from Canada , UK or Aus all pro separation and all with a deep dislike for races other than their own. I had to conclude from this that they or their parents had gone from some remote village in the north to western countrirs without ever really knowing a Sinhala ,Burgher or Muslim in SL.

I left SL 33 years ago but I was brought up in Colombo surrounded by burghers and tamils. I never once heard the tamils in colombo talk about separatism and they were all proud to be sri lankan. As kids we were in and out of each others houses, playing together at school and couldn’t give a hoot about each others ethnicity so I am pleased to see you confirming that the Colombo tamils reject separatism. I cannot believe the fanatical mind set of sections of the Jaffna tamil diasporas which still keeps insisting on separation despite all the deaths and destruction of the north. Best of luck.

http://www.tamilnation.org/index.htm

Rav wrote:

<quoted text>Since coming across topix by chance 2 days ago and reading all the postings with fascination and incredulity I could not help noticing there were no tamil voices from sri lanka and now I am happy to see one. All the tamil postings were from Canada , UK or Aus all pro separation and all with a deep dislike for races other than their own. I had to conclude from this that they or their parents had gone from some remote village in the north to western countrirs without ever really knowing a Sinhala ,Burgher or Muslim in SL.
I left SL 33 years ago but I was brought up in Colombo surrounded by burghers and tamils. I never once heard the tamils in colombo talk about separatism and they were all proud to be sri lankan. As kids we were in and out of each others houses, playing together at school and couldn’t give a hoot about each others ethnicity so I am pleased to see you confirming that the Colombo tamils reject separatism. I cannot believe the fanatical mind set of sections of the Jaffna tamil diasporas which still keeps insisting on separation despite all the deaths and destruction of the north. Best of luck.

It can be very dangerous for a Tamil to post from Sri Lanka especially if they were to speak out against the government, but that goes for Sinhalese too.

Free speech is under threat there, which I find really sad and disturbing.

By the way I have always been against seperatism, that is not the answer.

Rav wrote:

<quoted text>Since coming across topix by chance 2 days ago and reading all the postings with fascination and incredulity I could not help noticing there were no tamil voices from sri lanka and now I am happy to see one. All the tamil postings were from Canada , UK or Aus all pro separation and all with a deep dislike for races other than their own. I had to conclude from this that they or their parents had gone from some remote village in the north to western countrirs without ever really knowing a Sinhala ,Burgher or Muslim in SL.
I left SL 33 years ago but I was brought up in Colombo surrounded by burghers and tamils. I never once heard the tamils in colombo talk about separatism and they were all proud to be sri lankan. As kids we were in and out of each others houses, playing together at school and couldn’t give a hoot about each others ethnicity so I am pleased to see you confirming that the Colombo tamils reject separatism. I cannot believe the fanatical mind set of sections of the Jaffna tamil diasporas which still keeps insisting on separation despite all the deaths and destruction of the north. Best of luck.

Bravo to both posts. Sri Lankans are a happy bunch.
One of the nicest thing I saw was at a Tamil wedding reception where no one was dancing until the Baila came on and everyone got up and partied the night away.
Baila and Cricket are the uniting factors in Lanka, we should make Sanath and Murali joint chiefs of staff and the Gypsies as cabinet ministers

Cosmopolitan wrote:

By the way I have always been against seperatism, that is not the answer.

by the way TAMILS & SINHELLESE ARE TOTALY SEPARATE DISTINCT ETHNIC GROUPS.they can't live together anymore.

SIVAN wrote:

<quoted text>
by the way TAMILS & SINHELLESE ARE TOTALY SEPARATE DISTINCT ETHNIC GROUPS.they can't live together anymore.

Rubbish, they can and they do.

ImpartialLankan wrote:

<quoted text>
Bravo to both posts. Sri Lankans are a happy bunch.
One of the nicest thing I saw was at a Tamil wedding reception where no one was dancing until the Baila came on and everyone got up and partied the night away.
Baila and Cricket are the uniting factors in Lanka, we should make Sanath and Murali joint chiefs of staff and the Gypsies as cabinet ministers

There are so many things they have in common, more that even you could imagine, it is the politicians who have tried and so far sucessfully, to divide the ethnicities and so get elected!

They just took over where we Brits left off.

Cosmopolitan wrote:

<quoted text>
There are so many things they have in common, more that even you could imagine, it is the politicians who have tried and so far sucessfully, to divide the ethnicities and so get elected!
They just took over where we Brits left off.

Cosmo – I honestly do know how much we have in common with each other.

Because I get caught up in this forum and make nasty yet very funny comments about Tamils, I think people have me pegged as an out and out racist. Nothing could be further from the truth. My best friend/brother is Tamil and I would die for him as he would for me. Some of my most affluent friends in Lanka are Tamil and don’t harbour the same views that some of these Tamil kids who have never really experienced any discrimination. My best friend buys into the Tiger hype but has never himself been so much as stopped at a checkpoint.

I genuinely love the Tamil people I know in Lanka, they are a world apart from the Diaspora Tamils in Canada, Uk, France and Oz.

I sincerely hope Sri Lanka can unite all her children, but while separatism is the only solution for Tamils (via their Tiger mouthpiece), I am sad to say that this situation will go on forever

ImpartialLankan wrote:

<quoted text>
Cosmo – I honestly do know how much we have in common with each other.
Because I get caught up in this forum and make nasty yet very funny comments about Tamils, I think people have me pegged as an out and out racist. Nothing could be further from the truth. My best friend/brother is Tamil and I would die for him as he would for me. Some of my most affluent friends in Lanka are Tamil and don’t harbour the same views that some of these Tamil kids who have never really experienced any discrimination. My best friend buys into the Tiger hype but has never himself been so much as stopped at a checkpoint.
I genuinely love the Tamil people I know in Lanka, they are a world apart from the Diaspora Tamils in Canada, Uk, France and Oz.
I sincerely hope Sri Lanka can unite all her children, but while separatism is the only solution for Tamils (via their Tiger mouthpiece), I am sad to say that this situation will go on forever

You do not have to tell me, I know you are not as anti as you sometimes come accross with others here.

By the way my daughters new best friend is Sinhalese. They are getting on real fine.

ImpartialLankan wrote:

<quoted text>
Cosmo – I honestly do know how much we have in common with each other.
Because I get caught up in this forum and make nasty yet very funny comments about Tamils, I think people have me pegged as an out and out racist. Nothing could be further from the truth. My best friend/brother is Tamil and I would die for him as he would for me. Some of my most affluent friends in Lanka are Tamil and don’t harbour the same views that some of these Tamil kids who have never really experienced any discrimination. My best friend buys into the Tiger hype but has never himself been so much as stopped at a checkpoint.
I genuinely love the Tamil people I know in Lanka, they are a world apart from the Diaspora Tamils in Canada, Uk, France and Oz.
I sincerely hope Sri Lanka can unite all her children, but while separatism is the only solution for Tamils (via their Tiger mouthpiece), I am sad to say that this situation will go on forever

as long as people agree with the sinhalese point of view you are happy. Dimwit did u ever pause to think that in lanka a Tamil cannot display his/her true feelings and may Tamils act like how Fucktheltte acts(pretending to be white/sinhala). Here in the west people have the right to express. u really are a dumfuc no wonder u work for someone. Hey I flew business class to get here but not on Qatari airways- not bad for a janitor lol

ImpartialLankan wrote:

<quoted text>
Bravo to both posts. Sri Lankans are a happy bunch.
One of the nicest thing I saw was at a Tamil wedding reception where no one was dancing until the Baila came on and everyone got up and partied the night away.
Baila and Cricket are the uniting factors in Lanka, we should make Sanath and Murali joint chiefs of staff and the Gypsies as cabinet ministers

Banda, i was a colombo tamil so were my parents and we were attacked in 77 and 83 by your peaceful fing bandas.

Cosmopolitan wrote:

<quoted text>
There are so many things they have in common, more that even you could imagine, it is the politicians who have tried and so far sucessfully, to divide the ethnicities and so get elected!
They just took over where we Brits left off.

I disagree to a point majority of the Sinhalese people do not want the Tamils in lanka. LTTE with its all its popularity could never win an election in North or East , Tamils were astute on that subject. Sinhlese on other hand always vote for the party with the most RACIST rhetorics

Space wrote:

<quoted text>as long as people agree with the sinhalese point of view you are happy. Dimwit did u ever pause to think that in lanka a Tamil cannot display his/her true feelings and may Tamils act like how Fucktheltte acts(pretending to be white/sinhala). Here in the west people have the right to express. u really are a dumfuc no wonder u work for someone. Hey I flew business class to get here but not on Qatari airways- not bad for a janitor lol

Can you not understand that the Tamils were treated badly in India because of the caste system, they had an easier time in Sri Lanka because as Buddhists we don't care about caste.
The sheer numbers of Tamils probably do warrant a homeland but not in Sri Lanka, don't force your insecurities about not having a seperate homeland on the Sri Lankan people.
With all that money you boast about, why don't you buy an island and all live happily ever after. The end

ImpartialLankan wrote:

<quoted text>
Can you not understand that the Tamils were treated badly in India because of the caste system, they had an easier time in Sri Lanka because as Buddhists we don't care about caste.
The sheer numbers of Tamils probably do warrant a homeland but not in Sri Lanka, don't force your insecurities about not having a seperate homeland on the Sri Lankan people.
With all that money you boast about, why don't you buy an island and all live happily ever after. The end

Why should Sri Lankan Tamils expect anything other than total equality and have to thank the majority for treating them in anyway other than fellow, 100% Sri Lankans! Indeed as Sri Lakan as any Sinnhalese! Sri Lanka IS the homeland of all Sri Lankan Tamils, full stop.

Space wrote:

<quoted text>Banda, i was a colombo tamil so were my parents and we were attacked in 77 and 83 by your peaceful fing bandas.

Listen you little small minded piece of crap, that was 26 years ago.
26 years ago we would have been treated very differently in the West too, racism was rife and tolerance was not practiced by the majority.
In 2009 – you can boast about how you prosper in the West. So Why not give Sri Lanka the same chance instead of harping on about the situation 3 decades ago – are you so retarded that you don’t realize change only occurs over time.

If you push the Sinhala people away – then you have no chance of progressing in Sri Lanka. Only if we embrace each other can we move forward and out of this situation where the world views all Sri Lankans as barbaric and backwards

Space wrote:

<quoted text>I disagree to a point majority of the Sinhalese people do not want the Tamils in lanka. LTTE with its all its popularity could never win an election in North or East , Tamils were astute on that subject. Sinhlese on other hand always vote for the party with the most RACIST rhetorics

Whether they like it or not Tamils are there to stay. Some political solution, other than a seperate state, has to be found. Until that day nothimg is solved.

ImpartialLankan wrote:

<quoted text>
Can you not understand that the Tamils were treated badly in India because of the caste system, they had an easier time in Sri Lanka because as Buddhists we don't care about caste.
The sheer numbers of Tamils probably do warrant a homeland but not in Sri Lanka, don't force your insecurities about not having a seperate homeland on the Sri Lankan people.
With all that money you boast about, why don't you buy an island and all live happily ever after. The end

CCD probes incident where man was "forced" to drown
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/fr...
This week, Britain, whilst setting out a catalogue of problems that are clearly linked to the Sri Lankan state’s active policies, announced it will continue “engagement” with the ethnocracy. Almost certainly, this policy of appeasement, which has been tried and failed repeatedly before, will fail again. Whilst the rhetoric of liberalism – exemplified most recently in Colombo’s soliciting of international funding for ‘rehabilitation of ex-combatants’– will continue to be deployed, in short order it will be clear that none of the ‘post-war’ transformations expected of Sri Lanka will be undertaken. As two eminent scholars, Deborah Winslow and Michael Woost argued, even by 2004, Sri Lanka was not a place where war was taking place, rather the country was war itself:“not a stop-gap, but a new social formation.” Merely tinkering with it –“engagement– will change absolutely nothing.

The Colombo Crimes Division (CCD) has begun an investigation over an incident where a man was “forced” to drown in Bambalapitiya this morning in front of several onlookers.

Police spokesman senior DIG Nimal Madiwaka said that the victim was believed to be mentally retarded and used to throw stones towards trains and vehicles passing by.

Earlier today the victim had reportedly thrown stones towards the Bambalapitiya police before jumping into the sea and drowning, the police spokesman quoted the Bambalapitiya police as saying.

However shocking television footage taken by a cameraman from his television office showed men attempting to beat the victim using sticks and preventing him from coming ashore resulting in his death by drowning.

The police spokesman said that with the airing of the footage the CCD was asked to take over the probe on the incident. The probe will include possible police involvement in the incident. Navy divers meanwhile are looking for the body of the victim, the police spokesman added.(SD)

Cosmopolitan wrote:

<quoted text>
Why should Sri Lankan Tamils expect anything other than total equality and have to thank the majority for treating them in anyway other than fellow, 100% Sri Lankans! Indeed as Sri Lakan as any Sinnhalese! Sri Lanka IS the homeland of all Sri Lankan Tamils, full stop.

Exactly - so why shout about seperation. The Tigers started up to fight social elitism amongst Tamils, then they moved on to fight discrimination by the Sinhalese. This suddenly became a fight for seperatism - its driven purely by greed.

Now the govt says lets talk about equality, the Gosl has changed the constitution which gives every man woman and child in Lanka the same rights. Lets discuss a solution for all Lankans to live together.

But this is no longer enough them - its all about Eelam now.

But Eelam will never happen.