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diego
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What a waste of time this autonomia issue is. The eastern states lost the last presidential election to Morales and his MAS people. But now, rather than abide by the results of that legal and democratic election, like spoiled little kids the cambas and their allies want to stop the game and change the rules. What a bunch of losers. Even the Organization of American States told Costas that the autonomia referendum is illegal and a threat to Bolivia's sovereign integrity.
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manuel
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Like Kosovo independence, illegal but recognized by europe and USA appear like legal... If the people of Santa Cruz vote for autonomy, the first step to create an international view. The OAS have a poor and null interference in any matter.
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Rob California USA
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Diego is right the Costas lost the democratic election and should get used to being the minority. Moreover it should be made perfectly clear by Morales that the Costas will be made to pay taxes to the Bolivian Government. The Costas autonomia referendum is illegal and thus the Costas should be called terrorists.
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sancho
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[...] and the People have won with more than 85% of the vote.
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BOLO
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congrats to the cambas.....
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vinman
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The cambas are setting themselves up for more disappointment and more problems. The Bolivian government, the National Electoral Court and the Bolivian military does not recognize the vote. If the cambas think that Evo is just going to let the country disintegrate, they are bigger fools than I thought.
Diego is right, the cambas are poor losers who are causing more problems for themselves by their selfish, childish behavior instead of working to defeat Evo in the next election according to Bolivia’s electoral rules.
Comparing the autonomia issue in Santa Cruz with the situation in Kosovo is ridiculous. In the former Yugoslavia,(i.e. Kosovo, you had Catholic death squads (the Serbians) committing genocide against the Kosovar Muslims. The only cambas that are dying might be from alcohol poisoning. The United States and NATO went to war against Slobodan Milošević. I doubt that the U.S. cares enough about Ruben Costas or the hijitos de papa to help Santa Cruz if Evo were to send in the soldiers.
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patricia s
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well diego and vinman If you are against of any welfare for the Cruceños, why you are not working for bolivia in the highlands. The Camba are the most peaceful people, that´s why they use the referendum to be heard. This is not something that started in overnight, it has several years that Santa Cruz wants the autonomy and take the total money management from their work. And I think Rob should know a little more of the term terrorist. In Santa Cruz does not exist any similar movement.
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BBb
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all got to say is check evo's financial gain since taking power in bolivia. chavez and Evo are just taking advantage of poor uneducated people to satisfy their agenda.
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vinman
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"If you are against of any welfare for the Cruceños, why you are not working for bolivia in the highlands."
Huh? Who said anything about being against the welfare of the cruceños? I think that you need to better understand what you are reading.
Maybe you should visit Bolivia more often. The cambas are doing a lot better than the poor indiginous people in the altiplano. I see a lot of fat cambas walking around so I know that they are eating well. Or maybe it is all the beer and whiskey that they drink.
In case you have forgotten, the cambas are the ones who LOST the presidential election and THEY are the ones who are, in essence, lined up against the poorer members in their own country. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, the cambas only want to be Bolivians if they can pay whatever THEY think is fair to their democratically elected government. And the hell with the poor people.
It sounds to me like you are a bit selfish yourself. Are you a camba?
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vinman
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BBb, that is an interesting comment. Do you have Evo's financial statements such that you can ascertain his net worth? I'd being in knowing where you obtained that information.
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Bob Burns
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So the poor want to steal what the successful have created. I think we've heard this before in the world and recent history. 'Till now it's always resulted in failure after massive deaths. Good luck. No one can hold another prisoner
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Bob Burns
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vinman wrote: BBb, that is an interesting comment. Do you have Evo's financial statements such that you can ascertain his net worth? I'd being in knowing where you obtained that information. Every socialist dictator has done/is doing the same. They know, by looking at history, their days are numbered, and make provisions
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diego
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Bob Burns wrote: <quoted text>Every socialist dictator has done/is doing the same. They know, by looking at history, their days are numbered, and make provisions If you feel that way, then why do you (supposedly) live in Bejing. Do you not think that Chinese President Hu Jintao is a socialist, dictator? He is much worse than Evo Morales could ever be. I think that you are a hypocrite.
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BBb
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Bolivia has finalised a $2.1 billion mining deal with Indian company Jindal Power & Steel Ltd, i don't think the bolivian people are going to enjoy much of this wealth...evo is directly involved with this...they are using the oldest tricks in politics to redirect people's attention to race issues rather than actual economic growth and the enrichment of its people. the mention deal above is one of the many evo has conducted. Bolivia is so rich in natural resources but has been misled and tricked by its leaders, evo is no exception.
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Bob Burns
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diego wrote: <quoted text> If you feel that way, then why do you (supposedly) live in Bejing. Do you not think that Chinese President Hu Jintao is a socialist, dictator? He is much worse than Evo Morales could ever be. I think that you are a hypocrite. We are not in any way socialist, except that the benefit of the people is in everything we do. Hu is not a dictator, he rose to the top thru merit, and is supported by all the people. There are over 50 races in China, none is set against another, we all live in harmony
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vinman
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Bob Burns wrote: <quoted text>We are not in any way socialist, except that the benefit of the people is in everything we do. Hu is not a dictator, he rose to the top thru merit, and is supported by all the people. There are over 50 races in China, none is set against another, we all live in harmony China is not socialist??? Hu is not a dictator?? No race is set against the other? Ask the Tibetans or the Uyghurs. I don't know if you are just trying to get attention or if you are actually as clueless as you seem. Regardless, for your own safety I really hope that you do not go out in public without supervision.
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Evo 2 adrian Rico
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vinman wrote: <quoted text> China is not socialist??? Hu is not a dictator?? No race is set against the other? Ask the Tibetans or the Uyghurs. I don't know if you are just trying to get attention or if you are actually as clueless as you seem. Regardless, for your own safety I really hope that you do not go out in public without supervision. k vinman see this is the part I hate; when he is actually right. Hu, like it or like it, has earned his keep through merit. The dalai lama and the uygurs are nothing but the cambas of china. Dont ignore the fact that they are all chinese. I give bob this one although both of you better shut up quick since you both now have double jeopardy
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vinman
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E2AR - but Hu is not the product of a fair election. He is a product of the communist hierarchy. Political dissent is not tolerated in China. That aside, I agree that Hu is a talented person. He is guiding the PRC to great economic wealth and power.
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BBb
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way to go on tangents "vinman" and not address the initial argument which you seem to have nothing to add besides rethoric. typical evo supporter, easlily lead with no substance or direction.
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arizona-25
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You sir are a horse's a$$.
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