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May 3, 2008

Mandela on US terrorist watchlist

“The ANC set an important example: It successfully made the change from armed struggle to peace. We should celebrate the transformation.”

Nobel Peace Prize winner anti-apartheid icon Nelson Mandela still figures on the US terrorist watchlist and needs special permission to visit America. via Hindustan Times

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May 3, 2008
 
America has weird values sometimes. We let a Nazi pope run around.
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May 3, 2008
 
john wrote:
America has weird values sometimes. We let a Nazi pope run around.
There's a big dif,- unless you are one of those naive people believing Mandela to be the fourth member of the Holy Trinity, John....

The one is an ordained priest, who has served his God and his church for practically his whole life.

The other is a convicted terrorist, who by serving his time might now be considered 'reformed', but who, as far as I know, never publicly renounced the use of violence to achieve his own political ends. Who is a fraud, having been caught out having his signature put on paintings which he never painted. And whose funds and foundations have taken very good care of his own and his children's purses...

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May 3, 2008
 
why hasn't the State Department caught this bastard yet?
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May 3, 2008
 
saviorself wrote:
why hasn't the State Department caught this bastard yet?
And while they are at it, they might just as well issue a warrant of arrest for the female Mandela, too. She's murdered more than SIXTEEN young Africans, black nogal, according to a witness who was shipped off into a Zambian jail by the ANC to protect Holy Nelson's media image....
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May 3, 2008
 
He is only a puppet for the illumenati,helping them get what they want,South African riches.
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May 3, 2008
 
saviorself wrote:
why hasn't the State Department caught this bastard yet?
Your dad is a bastard, stupid homesexual.
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May 6, 2008
 
hurricane wrote:
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There's a big dif,- unless you are one of those naive people believing Mandela to be the fourth member of the Holy Trinity, John....
The one is an ordained priest, who has served his God and his church for practically his whole life.
The other is a convicted terrorist, who by serving his time might now be considered 'reformed', but who, as far as I know, never publicly renounced the use of violence to achieve his own political ends. Who is a fraud, having been caught out having his signature put on paintings which he never painted. And whose funds and foundations have taken very good care of his own and his children's purses...
Hey Dutchman, Mandela is a AFRICAN true hero and a true son of Africa who fought against the racist tyranny of the Afrikaner Government.
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May 6, 2008
 
Err.. I thought he spent the freedom war in jail?
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May 6, 2008
 
Oh, sorry I forgot, he was found GUILTY of plotting to blow up Cape Town railway station in the early morning - Just as hundreds os black, coloured and white school children would be on it, on their way to school.

Blowing up innocent children is a hero's act?
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May 6, 2008
 
Winnie Mandels herself was responsible for the murde of 16 youngsters.

Black people at that.
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May 6, 2008
 
Strandloper wrote:
Oh, sorry I forgot, he was found GUILTY of plotting to blow up Cape Town railway station in the early morning - Just as hundreds os black, coloured and white school children would be on it, on their way to school.
Blowing up innocent children is a hero's act?
Read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7384...
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May 6, 2008
 
It seems to me there are plenty of AWB members and Stormfront members on this thread.
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May 6, 2008
 
So much hate...
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May 6, 2008
 
Isn't it terrible. They seem to be everywhere these days. Where are all of them coming from.
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May 6, 2008
 
Panafrican wrote:
That link is irrelevant - Charles Mason is not a teddy bear as well now just because he's old.
If Mandela had his way back then hundreds of innocent children would have died in the explosions. He was put away because he was a terrorist.

THAT's why he was put in jail.
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May 6, 2008
 
hate haters wrote:
So much hate...
We learn from the masters of racism - the black African tribes.
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May 7, 2008
 
Strandloper wrote:
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That link is irrelevant - Charles Mason is not a teddy bear as well now just because he's old.
If Mandela had his way back then hundreds of innocent children would have died in the explosions. He was put away because he was a terrorist.
THAT's why he was put in jail.
Mandela turned to armed struggle becuase you EUROPEAN South Africans refused to listen to the ANC who wanted a nonracial democratic South Africa in which all South Africans could enjoy equality it was aparthied laws that drove him and others to do what they did if you were an African you might have done the same thing if you were denied all basic human rights and roobed of YOUR dignity. Peaceful protest was ruthlessly crush and repressed.

Mandela was fighting to free AFRICANS from the yoke of oppression.
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Olive wrote:
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Mandela turned to armed struggle becuase you EUROPEAN South Africans refused to listen to the ANC who wanted a nonracial democratic South Africa in which all South Africans could enjoy equality it was aparthied laws that drove him and others to do what they did if you were an African you might have done the same thing if you were denied all basic human rights and roobed of YOUR dignity. Peaceful protest was ruthlessly crush and repressed.
Mandela was fighting to free AFRICANS from the yoke of oppression.
Yeah right. Like Mugabe was fighting to free AFRICANS from the yoke of oppression. So they can be free to die of starvation, be beaten up and tortured by police, and flee out of the country in their millions...

You know what, Olive? As long as you and yours refuse to face FACTS,- ie the fact that most, if not all, of your black leaders are corrupt, incompetent, brutal despots who only care about power, as in POWA,- Black Africa will never come right. Its people will carry on voting with their feet, ie running away to white-ruled states.

Like you did. I still think it's a bit of a cheek, though, for a blackey to run off to white-ruled states, away from black-ruled ones,- and then defend those same black rulers, and run down the kith and kin of the whiteys who took you in when you ran away. But then gratitude was never your strong point, was it?????
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Ruby the Mixed Zim wrote:
It seems to me there are plenty of AWB members and Stormfront members on this thread.
Hey Ruby, you and I should hook up and go to the 'GREAT' Nelson Mandela concert this summer.

Mandela A TRUE African hero and you Ruby may be mixed but to me you are an African too.
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Yeah right. Like Mugabe was fighting to free AFRICANS from the yoke of oppression. So they can be free to die of starvation, be beaten up and tortured by police, and flee out of the country in their millions...
You know what, Olive? As long as you and yours refuse to face FACTS,- ie the fact that most, if not all, of your black leaders are corrupt, incompetent, brutal despots who only care about power, as in POWA,- Black Africa will never come right. Its people will carry on voting with their feet, ie running away to white-ruled states.
Like you did. I still think it's a bit of a cheek, though, for a blackey to run off to white-ruled states, away from black-ruled ones,- and then defend those same black rulers, and run down the kith and kin of the whiteys who took you in when you ran away. But then gratitude was never your strong point, was it?????
listen you stupid Dutchman I dont defend people like Mugabe and not once have I defended corruption and bad African leaders, you are so bloody pathetic but then again your a typical EUROPEAN BOER, that's the problem with right wing conservatives like you, you think just becuase people like me repsect Mandela you automatically assume and think we justify and excuse the actions of ruthless and brutal monsters like Mugabe well I dont so dont make that assumption. I can't stand mugabe OK. And it right wing conservatives I have problem with not all whites so stop being so danm paronoid. I am sick of your wild accusations.

Mandela is totally different to Mugabe and Idi Amin and ruthless, corrupt tyrants like that. I hate what Mugabe has done to Zimbabwe and I will never defend him nor any other corrupt African leader.
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