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Amalicious

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quote by ibn khaldun one of the great islamic thinkers of the golden age of islamic science.

this is his opinion of somalis

"The black nations are as a rule, submissive to slavery, because ( blacks) have little (that is essentially) human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated. "
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He attacked bantus not somalis... He discovered the concept of evolution... And described the hoa as berber
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somaliwaan wrote:
He attacked bantus not somalis... He discovered the concept of evolution... And described the hoa as berber
You are wrong, somalis are included as negros here is proof.

"The inhabitants of the first and the second zone in the south are called the Abyssinians, the Zanj, the Sudanese. These are synonyms used to designate the particular nation that has turned black. The name Abyssinians however is restricted to those Negroes who live opposite Mecca and the Yemen and the name Zanj is restricted to those who live along the Indian Ocean. "

You should be ashamed to think this racist is someone to idolize. Somalis with no pride are pathetic.
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another great islamic arab scientist views on black people

"If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth -in no other peculiarity or property - except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent."

nasir al-din all-tusi
Amalicious

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ibn sina one of the most highly regarded islamic scientist in the golden age had this to say about somalis

"[Blacks are] people who are by their very nature slaves"
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Amalicious wrote:
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You are wrong, somalis are included as negros here is proof.
"The inhabitants of the first and the second zone in the south are called the Abyssinians, the Zanj, the Sudanese. These are synonyms used to designate the particular nation that has turned black. The name Abyssinians however is restricted to those Negroes who live opposite Mecca and the Yemen and the name Zanj is restricted to those who live along the Indian Ocean. "
You should be ashamed to think this racist is someone to idolize. Somalis with no pride are pathetic.
somalis were known as berber and took a lion part in selling gorillaz aka bantus....we were feared and respected by the whole of africa ...bantu slaves were exported from zeila and berbera along with sheep ...ethiopia and somalia were respected civilisations unlike our less evolved cousin gorilla bantu aka my shoe shiner ...learn history
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jamac wrote:
<quoted text> somalis were known as berber and took a lion part in selling gorillaz aka bantus....we were feared and respected by the whole of africa ...bantu slaves were exported from zeila and berbera along with sheep ...ethiopia and somalia were respected civilisations unlike our less evolved cousin gorilla bantu aka my shoe shiner ...learn history
Whaaaaat? you were never known as Berber lol.
If you was known as Berber and if you was the most feared warriors
in Africa, then why did the "Moors" not recruit you during the Moor/Islam empire which expanded into Southern Europe? They recruited "Gorilla" Muslim Bantus from Mali and West Africa but not you? But I thought you were feared and respected by the whole of Africa? fam.the whole of Africa didn't even know you existed! LOL you fiish you chat so much b-s. Islam has been prominent in Somalia since the beginning yet you don't have one civilisation that can compare with Mali Timbuktu who were new to Islam yet built a far more advanced civilisation and empire and were far more wealthy then you. LEARN YOUR HISTORY!.
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jamac is clearly delusional, this quote says it all:
"The name Abyssinians however is restricted to those Negroes who live opposite Mecca and the Yemen and the name Zanj is restricted to those who live along the Indian Ocean.'
(Kenya, Ethiopia, and Somalia)
Arab-worshiping rat, a useless uncle tom negro.
Hafidh arab Somali unity

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Somalis actually had even worse to say about the zanj calling them demons even today adon and abid (slave) are synonymous with black africans another name is jareer meaning kinky hair..Somalis were actually called berbers by the arabs and there was widespread intermarriage that continues to this day

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Amalicious wrote:
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You are wrong, somalis are included as negros here is proof.
"The inhabitants of the first and the second zone in the south are called the Abyssinians, the Zanj, the Sudanese. These are synonyms used to designate the particular nation that has turned black. The name Abyssinians however is restricted to those Negroes who live opposite Mecca and the Yemen and the name Zanj is restricted to those who live along the Indian Ocean. "
You should be ashamed to think this racist is someone to idolize. Somalis with no pride are pathetic.
Since when did Medieval Arab scholars use the term 'negro', which wasn't in use till at least the seventeenth century! I suggest you check your sources more thoroughly, better yet, why don't you CLEARLY reference the source

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Unity Is a Weapon wrote:
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Whaaaaat? you were never known as Berber lol.
If you was known as Berber and if you was the most feared warriors
in Africa, then why did the "Moors" not recruit you during the Moor/Islam empire which expanded into Southern Europe? They recruited "Gorilla" Muslim Bantus from Mali and West Africa but not you? But I thought you were feared and respected by the whole of Africa? fam.the whole of Africa didn't even know you existed! LOL you fiish you chat so much b-s. Islam has been prominent in Somalia since the beginning yet you don't have one civilisation that can compare with Mali Timbuktu who were new to Islam yet built a far more advanced civilisation and empire and were far more wealthy then you. LEARN YOUR HISTORY!.
'LEARN YOUR HISTORY'(irony?). The civilisation which developed in Medieval Spain was heavlily influenced by the native Berbers of North Africa. These Berbers have no connection to the Bantus of central and southern Africa but are more closely related to the Somali people and share a common language group(Afro-Asiatic). In fact their oral tradition pointed to the Somali region as their place of origin. When the Medieval Muslim traveller Ibn Battuta arrived in Somalia he referred to their land as 'Bilad al-barbar', i.e. the land of the Berbers.
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Lander_ wrote:
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'LEARN YOUR HISTORY'(irony?). The civilisation which developed in Medieval Spain was heavlily influenced by the native Berbers of North Africa. These Berbers have no connection to the Bantus of central and southern Africa but are more closely related to the Somali people and share a common language group(Afro-Asiatic). In fact their oral tradition pointed to the Somali region as their place of origin. When the Medieval Muslim traveller Ibn Battuta arrived in Somalia he referred to their land as 'Bilad al-barbar', i.e. the land of the Berbers.
I am guessing you are a somalilander, Why do you somalis have arabic writing on your flag? do you hate your somali identity that much, that you would put a foreign language on your flag. The language of countries that are not willing to even recognize you.
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Hafidh arab Somali unity wrote:
Somalis actually had even worse to say about the zanj calling them demons even today adon and abid (slave) are synonymous with black africans another name is jareer meaning kinky hair..Somalis were actually called berbers by the arabs and there was widespread intermarriage that continues to this day
you didn't even have a written language, you wasn't calling anyone anything LOL. it's pretty clear the so called "zanj" consisted of your people. If not, then why do the Blacks all over the middle east, pakistan etc etc who were brought there during arab slave trade look like YOU guys and nothing like Bantu.
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Lander_ wrote:
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'LEARN YOUR HISTORY'(irony?). The civilisation which developed in Medieval Spain was heavlily influenced by the native Berbers of North Africa. These Berbers have no connection to the Bantus of central and southern Africa but are more closely related to the Somali people and share a common language group(Afro-Asiatic). In fact their oral tradition pointed to the Somali region as their place of origin. When the Medieval Muslim traveller Ibn Battuta arrived in Somalia he referred to their land as 'Bilad al-barbar', i.e. the land of the Berbers.
Thats because Berbers originally came from East Africa stupid, linguisitically and genetically we already know that, doesn't mean they directly came from Somalis though..especially considering you guys came from Ethiopians anyway. The milky skinned berbers you see today are actually mixed, but your funny ..if you guys were ACTUALLY considered "berbers" then why was you ignored when they invaded Spain? And it was Arabs who mainly lead the line not Berbers ..as I said though, if you was considered Berbers then why was you not recruited? if you were fierce warriors why were you not recruited? they recruited Africans from Mali and N---iger but not you guys ..You were still living as Nomads sniffing grass

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hahahahahaha arabs r only rich they can not use there brain properly (most of them)so u ppl should not care wat they think
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Somalis are so delusional, shall we talk about how the Gosha Bantus defeated you on your own soil?..shall we talk about how you would fear to go into Gosha villages?

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Unity Is a Weapon wrote:
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Thats because Berbers originally came from East Africa stupid, linguisitically and genetically we already know that, doesn't mean they directly came from Somalis though..especially considering you guys came from Ethiopians anyway. The milky skinned berbers you see today are actually mixed, but your funny ..if you guys were ACTUALLY considered "berbers" then why was you ignored when they invaded Spain? And it was Arabs who mainly lead the line not Berbers ..as I said though, if you was considered Berbers then why was you not recruited? if you were fierce warriors why were you not recruited? they recruited Africans from Mali and N---iger but not you guys ..You were still living as Nomads sniffing grass
Dude your a retard, how are Somalis "from" Ethiopians?? Somalia has a history which can be traced all the way back to antiquity, compelety seperate and distinctly different from the Ethiopian/Abyssinian history. You see this is what happens when non-Somalis comment on a SOMALI forum. And nobody 'recruited Berbers'. It was a largely Berber force that was led by the Berber General Tariq ibn Zyad that entered into Spain. And I never mentioned anything about any fierce Somali warriors, so quit trying to beat that dead horse.
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Lander_ wrote:
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Dude your a retard, how are Somalis "from" Ethiopians?? Somalia has a history which can be traced all the way back to antiquity, compelety seperate and distinctly different from the Ethiopian/Abyssinian history. You see this is what happens when non-Somalis comment on a SOMALI forum. And nobody 'recruited Berbers'. It was a largely Berber force that was led by the Berber General Tariq ibn Zyad that entered into Spain. And I never mentioned anything about any fierce Somali warriors, so quit trying to beat that dead horse.
If you never came from Ethiopians where the hell did you from?
the oldest human remains ever found were in Ethiopia..It's pretty clear they spread from there to Somalia, and everywhere else. To say you never came from Ethiopians is hilarious, their history pre-dates you by a long shot. When did I say Beberbers were recruited? my point is YOU Somalis were not recruited, Many different sub-groups entered Spain..And my "fierce somali warrior" reference was to a previous comment idiot. I'm not trying to beat anything, Just giving you a history lesson.

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Unity Is a Weapon wrote:
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If you never came from Ethiopians where the hell did you from?
the oldest human remains ever found were in Ethiopia..It's pretty clear they spread from there to Somalia, and everywhere else. To say you never came from Ethiopians is hilarious, their history pre-dates you by a long shot. When did I say Beberbers were recruited? my point is YOU Somalis were not recruited, Many different sub-groups entered Spain..And my "fierce somali warrior" reference was to a previous comment idiot. I'm not trying to beat anything, Just giving you a history lesson.
Sorry we Muslims don't believe in that monkey evolution fairy tale, we are all descendants from Adam - not Ethiopians. Dude as a history student i'm telling you, the Berbers traced their origin to that region, FACT. All this nonsense about recruiting people from a completely different region of Africa when there are a dozen Berber tribes and Arab reinforcement makes absolutely no sense. I think you should stop reading Wikipedia or whatever retarded Darwin BS you read and enroll onto a REAL history course.
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Amalicious wrote:
quote by ibn khaldun one of the great islamic thinkers of the golden age of islamic science.
this is his opinion of somalis
"The black nations are as a rule, submissive to slavery, because ( blacks) have little (that is essentially) human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated. "
You really shot yourself in the foot and you demonstrated your ignorance in this forum. When Somalis become Zanj (negroes)?. What a moron. The Medieval Arabs knew Somalis as Barbara, Barberoi or Berbers. The Habasha as Abassinians and Bantus as Zanj. I don't condone Ibn Khaldon's description of the Bantus, but you have to know it that he said you are submissive to slavery, have low IQ and have animal instinct. You should have made rebutal to his notion instead of projecting his allegation to Somalis.

No foreigner whether white or Arab have ever described Somalis as cowards or dumb as they have labelled on other Africans.

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