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SWG

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#1475
Jun 24, 2012
 
Kubek wrote:
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The sports mentioned have a different setting and involve a bit of a different effort. For example, in ice hockey you change your formations and if I'm not mistaken nowadays many players do really short, highly intensive stints (lasting even few tens of seconds), especially in attack, before substituted. And back and forth. In American football players have their roles and a single activness is measured in seconds. They are substituted back and forth too.
It's like comparing a sprinter or a 400 metres runner to a 5000 metres one - it's not a fair comparison. Footballers can't go on for whatever long it takes (so can't fans) and it isn't as easy to settle the score as it is in basketball, for example.
Basketball is used as an example of time only. Let them play 15 minutes regardless of who scores or not. At the end of the time you see where you are and continue or not. You have a point about hockey and your soccer but just barely. In ice hockey you are constantly moving AND getting hit. Not so in your game. Many times I can see players jogging and/or walking. Trust me they can handle overtime. The fans? Who cares? Besides, they would love it no matter how long it goes on as long as they have a clear-cut winner. Take no offense but I will not put a soccer player up with a NFL or NHL player but it is a different game so comparisons are stupid to begin with. Make no mistake, they are athletes of the highest order and have incredible skill but the game is different. More one of endurance. One thing all of them have is the heart to win. Doesn't matter what sport you play there comes a time when the body has had it and something inside you say "Take One More Step" and you do. No one can explain that. It is inside ALL athletes have it. Ask the men playing tonight and I bet they would rather play till someone scores than have a shoot-out.

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Jun 25, 2012
 

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The three pussycats are out.
Azzuri were made to sweat by an England team that refused to give in despite being dominated for long periods of the game.
The English sharpshooters failed to convert on two penalties & that´s all she wrote.
Well, after all who expected England to go so far ?
Changes are needed on the team, again.
Wrong tactics were applied by Roy too.
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#1477
Jun 25, 2012
 
The four most impressive teams are in the semi finals, that doesn't always happen, Spain will be too strong for Portugal and although I think that Italy will give Germany a good game, I think that the Germans having two extra days to prepare for the match will give them a massive advantage, so I think that the final will be the one that most people expected.
England achieved about as much as most people expected before the tournament, expectations increased when they reached the quater finals, but Italy showed that they are some way off competing for the big prizes.
I must say that I have really enjoyed this tournament so far, most teams have favoured the attacking option, even Italy which is unusual, which has made for some exciting games.
I would like to say also that Ukraine and Poland have defied the critics by the way this tournament has been staged, apart from the two boneheaded bigots on this forum that is:). Memorable matches played in full or almost full stadiums and visiting supporters being warmly welcomed, Ukrainians were praised by England supporters for their warm and friendly welcome. There were some unfortunate incidents in Poland, mainly involving Russian supporters, but no more than at any other tournament, and those have quite often involved England supporters. The racism that the hatemongers had predicted has hadly surfaced.
Bravo Ukraine and Poland!
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#1478
Jun 25, 2012
 
You stupid peasant. Ukrafarts and polaks had not been in the tournament in the first place had not they been the host nations. No chance of qualifying other way.
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#1479
Jun 25, 2012
 
Ukra farts won one game against the lousy meatballs headed by a bosniak. Polaks scored 2 goals during the entire tournament. Yeah real achievement pukebooby, real matter of pride.
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#1480
Jun 25, 2012
 
Right on cue one of the bigoted boneheads shows up:)
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#1481
Jun 25, 2012
 
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
You stupid peasant. Ukrafarts and polaks had not been in the tournament in the first place had not they been the host nations. No chance of qualifying other way.
Can you read? I'm talking about the host nations staging of the tournament, not their performances in it.
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#1482
Jun 25, 2012
 
SWG wrote:
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Basketball is used as an example of time only. Let them play 15 minutes regardless of who scores or not. At the end of the time you see where you are and continue or not. You have a point about hockey and your soccer but just barely. In ice hockey you are constantly moving AND getting hit. Not so in your game. Many times I can see players jogging and/or walking. Trust me they can handle overtime. The fans? Who cares? Besides, they would love it no matter how long it goes on as long as they have a clear-cut winner. Take no offense but I will not put a soccer player up with a NFL or NHL player but it is a different game so comparisons are stupid to begin with. Make no mistake, they are athletes of the highest order and have incredible skill but the game is different. More one of endurance. One thing all of them have is the heart to win. Doesn't matter what sport you play there comes a time when the body has had it and something inside you say "Take One More Step" and you do. No one can explain that. It is inside ALL athletes have it. Ask the men playing tonight and I bet they would rather play till someone scores than have a shoot-out.
No, the rules that are now are good and fair, they just need to bring the sudden death back so players try harder in overtime. With rules set this way it is clear to players and fans and there can be no complaints – hey, you've had your 90+30 minutes to score one goal more than your opposition and come away as a winner; if you weren't able to convert within the time and then lose the shoot-out – you've got yourself to blame only. Players and fans are aware of that – they go ape when a ref's blunder hurts them and costs them the game, but when they lose to penalty kicks there's just bitter feeling for oneself's effort that has not been good enough. Lots of people don't like the shoot-out because it is unpredictable and often goes against the run of regular-time play (so the better team loses). If you asked the players they'd want to stop playing after 90 minutes and have the winner decided :), but it's not possible this way. If you played the sport once, at a competitive setting, and knew its demands, you'd know that giving the players half an hour to decide the winner is reasonable and fair. The players would tell you the same (Gather 21 friends - supposed you all have a more-than-OK stamina for that is taken for regular level, and some footballing skill so as to make the game be played as it should be more or less - make two teams and go out play on an international-competition sized pitch (a rectangle between 105 and 110m long and 68-75m wide)– put heart and effort into the game and see how long you last before fighting for breath and ultimately having it up to there.). And that adrenaline-driven, last-resort hooray attacks rarely succeed in football. The shoot-out is fair too – it's not a lottery as many say. It's the test of skill and composure, little to do with luck (bad luck at penalties would be when, I don't know, the gash of wind would blow the ball of its right track, but not when you hit the bar or post and it doesn't bounce in off of it – it's just a bad try then, a missed shot). The clear-cut winner is decided this way and fans (whose massive interest and satisfaction is the cornerstone for the pro sport existence as it is) are (deep own) OK with it – they'd rather have their heart beat at well over 100 bpm at that moment than watch the agonising players trying to score the one winning gole in what would be the third or fourth round of the 15-minute decider and thus the match turn into more of a clueless, ugly kick-about.
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#1483
Jun 25, 2012
 
SWG wrote:
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Basketball is used as an example of time only. Let them play 15 minutes regardless of who scores or not. At the end of the time you see where you are and continue or not. You have a point about hockey and your soccer but just barely. In ice hockey you are constantly moving AND getting hit. Not so in your game. Many times I can see players jogging and/or walking. Trust me they can handle overtime. The fans? Who cares? Besides, they would love it no matter how long it goes on as long as they have a clear-cut winner. Take no offense but I will not put a soccer player up with a NFL or NHL player but it is a different game so comparisons are stupid to begin with. Make no mistake, they are athletes of the highest order and have incredible skill but the game is different. More one of endurance. One thing all of them have is the heart to win. Doesn't matter what sport you play there comes a time when the body has had it and something inside you say "Take One More Step" and you do. No one can explain that. It is inside ALL athletes have it. Ask the men playing tonight and I bet they would rather play till someone scores than have a shoot-out.
Yes, the games are different and therefore can not be compared too much. I take no offense at all but I can't agree on sort of treating football as a wimps game. It is not, although the players don't look like gladiators from American football or guys from ice hockey,(neither do bodies and bones bang)- it is not needed, the sport doesn't require that, more, it would hamper the footballers in training and matches a lot.
Think of it: would you rather get smashed onto the plexi glass by a runaway hockey player (say, 100kg of his own + 15-17kg of padding – I take M. Czerkawski's words for how much the padding is worth in kgs) or have your unprotected ankle or calf „kissed” with a runaway foootball player's studs or clash forehead against forehead while fighting in the air for a high ball? I've been bumped into by opponents, on fields and rink (natural – frozen pond, river; no paddings, not a hockey setting), I've hit the deck quite a many times, I've also felt how studs feel on the flesh (not hard though)- I'd rather get none :), but if I really had to choose I'd trust my experience and the paddings and go with the hockey incident as less hurtful. Constantly moving? Yes, but on skates. I can skate and I know I would take a 40m quick ride on skates over a 40m sprint any time of the day, especially knowing that I can go and have a rest on the bench soon after. Few pushes and I'm in a quite a speed already; I take that I'd get used to the heavy paddings.
It would be hilarious to watch all these sportsmen swap their disciplines with each other for a while and try do their best at them against a competent regular opponent.
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#1484
Jun 25, 2012
 
SWG wrote:
WOW!!!!!! Great!!! I will say that I have a new appreciation for this game. Sorry but don't be too hard on me. We don't get much coverage on this sport here. I do thank you all for getting me to watch and pay more attention to it.
The US will NEVER be able to compete against the worlds best at this game. They try but just don't have the competition that the rest of the world has at it. If the make the quarters of the WC the US is happy. Maybe it's because there are so many sports being played here. I don't know.
I forgot to add that Americans may not get a World Championship medal or "produce" a star player in forseeable future, but their presence in the football world is being felt nonetheless. The White Stripes' "Seven nation army" has got very popular with European football fans as of few years - they often chant it in the stands and it is played over the speakers at this Euro after goal scored (as was in the previous Euro, I believe).:)
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Jun 25, 2012
 

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Looks like people don't really understand the US, and that includes American poster SWG.
The US is just beginning to enter international football. The general European style of play is physical, boring, slow and mechanical. This is probably cultural. Latin Americans play a fast, lively, spontaneous and imaginative game with rhythm and artistry. Africans play fast, powerful, highly creative football with great dynamic flow.
The US will not play the game in the European style. It does not suit the American character to do this. They are very adaptable and will change and optimize the game quite quickly with time. They will become a major force in the game and when they do, they will be very hard to beat.

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If I may ask ?
What exactly is the US character to be applied to football ?
We have been showing your US lumberjacks how to play football for decades. So far, Yankees have not caught on. Could it be that the Yankees are not capable to grasp the basics of football ?
Power sports, like American football, where two huge bodies push one another at the line of scrimmage, that´s where you Yankees shine. Elastic basketball players, mostly black men, hardly anyone can beat them.
Perhaps, your horse shoe pitching team has no rivalry either.
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Pesky army wrote:
If I may ask ?
What exactly is the US character to be applied to football ?
We have been showing your US lumberjacks how to play football for decades. So far, Yankees have not caught on. Could it be that the Yankees are not capable to grasp the basics of football ?
Power sports, like American football, where two huge bodies push one another at the line of scrimmage, that´s where you Yankees shine. Elastic basketball players, mostly black men, hardly anyone can beat them.
Perhaps, your horse shoe pitching team has no rivalry either.
I got a feeling only thing the expert Amicuska enters is Ape's brown hole almost three times a day.
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#1488
Jun 26, 2012
 
Expert wrote:
Looks like people don't really understand the US, and that includes American poster SWG.
The US is just beginning to enter international football. The general European style of play is physical, boring, slow and mechanical. This is probably cultural. Latin Americans play a fast, lively, spontaneous and imaginative game with rhythm and artistry. Africans play fast, powerful, highly creative football with great dynamic flow.
The US will not play the game in the European style. It does not suit the American character to do this. They are very adaptable and will change and optimize the game quite quickly with time. They will become a major force in the game and when they do, they will be very hard to beat.
Blah blah blah blah!!!

The only thing you are an expert in is bending over!!

Basically what you are saying is..

Europeans are boring.

Latinos are GREAT.

Africans are powerful.

I bet you are just some stupid black person or a illegal mexican!!

Go work on my lawn you retard!!!

If what you are saying is true.. how come Africans and Latinos keep losing to Europeans?

None of the africans or Latino teams did well in the recent world cup event!! HAHAAHAH
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#1489
Jun 26, 2012
 
Pesky army wrote:
If I may ask ?
What exactly is the US character to be applied to football ?
To be adaptable and flexible. To be scientific and experiment. No dogma.
The US has a very large Latin Spanish population and also a large Black population. There are also many Italian, English, and French people in the US. So there is a large pool of talent they can use. Watch out!
Pesky Army wrote:
We have been showing your US lumberjacks how to play football for decades. So far, Yankees have not caught on. Could it be that the Yankees are not capable to grasp the basics of football ?
Are you capable of grasping the basics of football, or anything? Ukraine is in Euro 2012 only because it is a host country and qualifies automatically. Russia, Poland, Belorussia, Serbia, Slovakia are all useless. They are nowhere in Euro Cup and World Cup. Stupid people.
US did not take Football seriosly so far because they have many of their own sports like basketball and baseball.
Remember that US beat Russia in their own game of Hockey many times at the International and Olympic level.

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Power sports, like American football, where two huge bodies push one another at the line of scrimmage, that´s where you Yankees shine. Elastic basketball players, mostly black men, hardly anyone can beat them.
Perhaps, your horse shoe pitching team has no rivalry either.[/QUOTE]

American football came from the game of Rugby which is played widely in the world. France, England, Ireland, Netherlands, Germany all play the game.
If you take these "elastic black men" and make them play football, they will shoot you out of this planet. The US won twice as many medals as Russia in the Olympic games. So you and the Russians are lumberjacks, there are a lot of trees there.
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#1490
Jun 26, 2012
 
Red Devil wrote:
None of the africans or Latino teams did well in the recent world cup event!! HAHAAHAH
Uruguay did.

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#1491
Jun 26, 2012
 
I see, we still have the meat head from Toronto postings his poops again.
As I said before, you need to visit Jarvis street to pay just to get excessive semen from your pea brain.
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#1492
Jun 26, 2012
 
Pro Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>Uruguay did.
LOL

You didn't follow the world cup event !! They had a hard time beating Ghana!!!

Remember that handball incident??? If that guy didn't use his hands to block the ball, it would've gone in the net.

And no one remember 4th place.

You=peasant
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#1493
Jun 26, 2012
 
Red Devil wrote:
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LOL
You didn't follow the world cup event !! They had a hard time beating Ghana!!!
Remember that handball incident??? If that guy didn't use his hands to block the ball, it would've gone in the net.
And no one remember 4th place.
You=peasant
Yes I do. "That guy" you sound like a real football expert, LOL That guy was Luis Suarez, Ghana had the chance to win it with their penalty and they flunked it, then they couldn't beat ten men in extra time.
I remember fourth place, it's a considerable achievment for a country with a population of just three million. Most Europeans enjoy watching South American teams.
You = dumbass.

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#1494
Jun 26, 2012
 
Why would anyone discuss football with puke-booby ?
This idiot is clueless about anything.

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