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Since: May 07
New York - born and raised |
Marimercy and H.G.:
Look at this recipe.....La maza is called "Mexican" pero it is just like our maza....guineos verde o platano maduro. They make a stew.....with the ingredients of our pasteles......wonder if you guys would experiment. Have you heard of this before. I always wrap my pastel, depending whatever I have on had.....parchment paper, leaves, cabbage with aluminum foil...and tie same for boiling. |
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Bergamo, Italy |
The "beauty" of Hawaii is really all in the ethnic mix of immigrants that moved to the islands during the sugar cane era. Puerto Ricans, Portuguese, Chinese, Filipinos, Spanish, Irish, Japanese, Korean, etc... The patele (or pastele) was one of those things brought in by puerto ricans, and became very popular with everyone. The recipe that I posted came from a person of puerto rican ancestry himself, and whenever I'm invited to their home, there is always at least gandule (spell?) rice and other popular local dishes as their family also includes persons of hawaiian ancestry. In my immediate family, my sister is married to a family of portuguese and puerto rican mix. I cannot tell you how much I LOVE puerto rican food! Comparing patele to the mexican tamale is only because most people from the mainland United States would have no idea what I am talking about. The tamale, for reasons of geographical location, is more widely known. |
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Since: May 07
New York - born and raised |
Thanks......I will be trying the stew....sounds delicious.....and also for the explanation of the "Mexican Tamale" because I've had a mexican tamale and the taste is totally different..... not bad but my tastebuds like the puerto rican maza better.... thanks again, I like your website..... |
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“Chingis Khan” Since: Sep 07
San Juan, Puerto Rico |
I was wondering, where to get the plantain leaves for my pasteles in Canada?
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Since: Apr 07
Location hidden |
If there is an Indian market they usually sell plantain or banana leaves in a plastic bag from the Philliphines.
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Since: May 07
New York - born and raised |
Thanks for the info....I didn't know that..... |
Isa, hope all is well with you & yours. Yes, I'm familiar with "Pastele Stew". I've lived in Hawaii for a while and consider it my second home. The natives also call "Ganduli Rice" for arroz con Gandules. Puerto Ricans arrived in Maui in 1902 on a ship called Rio de Janero to help with the pineapple and sugar cane harvest. Check out this history on the Web. The Hawaiians love Puerto Ricans and it's food. I love Hawaiins and it's people. They can serve as an example to us if PR becomes a State. By the way our (Music) plenas and Bombas are called "Kachi kachi" in the Islands....HG |
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Isa, Please check out Daisy Martinez, Puerto Rican Chef: http://www.daisycooks.com/pages/main.cfm |
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“Chingis Khan” Since: Sep 07
San Juan, Puerto Rico |
If you give me PATELE
PLEASE give me them HOT, because cold PATELE empachan la gentele. Typical puertorican christmas carol song, public domain. |
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“Chingis Khan” Since: Sep 07
San Juan, Puerto Rico |
Puertoricans went to Hawaii exported by the Department of Labor to ease the starvation, unemployment in the isle. That just is a little different from going to help with pineapples. This practice continued for many decades an many of them landed in New England orchards. Those picking up apple and peaches loved Puerto Rico and vice versa. I |
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Since: May 07
New York - born and raised |
HG: Wanted to put this on your cuisine forum and kept missing the website...so I started this forum to get your attention about the PASTELE recipe. Sounded just like ours except the chef wrote on the site, that is was similar to Mexican Tamales. I've eaten both and they're totally different in taste and texture,but she did respond with a great explanation;..read it above... I did know there were are lot of Puerto Ricans in Hawaii, mi Madrina lived there when George, her husband was in the service.....she loved it.... |
RF: I read that in the local library in Lihue, Kauai, when I first show up there on a contract. I was amazed by this patient that I had who was 70 years old with the last name (Spanish name, must Protect Patient's ID). I asked him where is he from in Spanish. He replied in Spanish: "Puerto Rico". I asked him : What part: He stated " Maui". Later that day I visited the library and did some research. That's when I learn about this Rio DE Janerio embarked in 1902. By I must also agree with you. History books have a way of verbalizing the truth from a different perspective, tainted and distorted at times. Just look at the Native Americans who were victims of a genocide by Euro Transplants who wanted their land!! |
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Isa, thank you so much. I hope all is well with you & yours, especially your Viejito!! The Cooking site is all our site: http://www.topix.com/forum/world/puerto-rico/... . Take care & check out Daisy Martinez' Chef's site listed below: http://www.daisycooks.com/pages/main.cfm |
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Isa: Check out this site. I know you will like it!! http://www.encyclopaediajudaica.com/encyclopa... |
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“Chingis Khan” Since: Sep 07
San Juan, Puerto Rico |
Your point is well taken. Regarding genocide no one thinks,mentions how native americans/indians were given infected blankets to get rid of them with viruelas, millions of buffalos shot to death to starve them, crops,villages burned. All press goes to the Hebrews, Russians and so on. A day does not pass without some tv show about German-=Hebrews as if all previous or later genocides were of lesser importance. Vietnam was probably in terms of USA the worst. Using agent orange is just a step further from killing buffalos and burning crops. During the ll War gypsies were also exterminated, however, only rarely you hear this story. Since some think we are arabs, allow me to go around.....Gypsies originally form India, went all the way to Europe, some to what is Spain, France and some other countries. Our way of speech is essentially, Andaluz y Canario. Trivia of the week the Gypsy Kings were French. If you listen to flamenco with care the arab,gypsie essence is there, particularly el Cante Hondo. |
RF: You have made some valid points..........HG |
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Since: May 07
New York - born and raised |
HG: Thanks for thinking of me,,,,,the site was quite nice. |
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“Chingis Khan” Since: Sep 07
San Juan, Puerto Rico |
In the bread fruit tree
lives Juana Morales the only woman that eats bread fruit with avocado. |
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“Chingis Khan” Since: Sep 07
San Juan, Puerto Rico |
Me bebi un caddo'e pejcao
Con cobbino en case Bla, Y me siento como coco Y ejtoy como si na. Me di un palito e canhita Y me resulto tan mal Que se me fue a la cabeza Y no me puedo paral. |
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“Chingis Khan” Since: Sep 07
San Juan, Puerto Rico |
De pateleh a jenosidio
hay un largo caminio por eso digo yo en la tierra de Cibeleh que si vais a darme patele favor de ir calentando por que es sabidoh que frios, a la gente empachando. |
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