Island born Puerto Ricans can have dual citizenship

According to a new Spanish law, any Puerto Rican (born in Puerto Rico) who can prove that one of his/her grandparents was Spanish can obtain the Spanish citizenship (i.e. European Union).

Jorge wrote:

According to a new Spanish law, any Puerto Rican (born in Puerto Rico) who can prove that one of his/her grandparents was Spanish can obtain the Spanish citizenship (i.e. European Union).

Hi Jorge, How you doing? Is this a good thing for Puerto Ricans?

JWForever wrote:

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Hi Jorge, How you doing? Is this a good thing for Puerto Ricans?

Hey there...especially for those of us who travel to Europe (without leaving the Caribbean...LOL; as in the case of European nations which have overseas departments such as Holland, France, etc.)...

According to Spain's new law, when the US invaded Puerto Rico, the Spanish citizenship was not invalidated.

That translates into, any island born Puerto Rican, who has one of its ancestors (born in Puerto Rico) before 1917, can obtain the Spanish citizenship.

The name of the law is the Spanish historic memory law.

Miami Cubans (who meet those requirements) have been applying for dual citizenship for some time now.

This Spanish law applies also to every territory which belonged to Spain, up until the Spanish-USA war of 1898 (which includes the Filipinos and I think to the Samoans, also).

Too bad that when I was studying in Europe, that law didn't exist and I had to leave every six months (for America) in order to renew my student's visa.

Jorge wrote:

Too bad that when I was studying in Europe, that law didn't exist and I had to leave every six months (for America) in order to renew my student's visa.

Isn't that the way it always works, "nothing's there when you need it". That was a lot of expense for you and time to have to renew your Visa every six months.
It sounds like a good deal.

Arent all puerto ricans people of Spanish decent? Can some one answer I'm born in the Bronx, but my parents where born in puerto rico in ponce, can I get citizen from Spain?

Luis wrote:

Arent all puerto ricans people of Spanish decent? Can some one answer I'm born in the Bronx, but my parents where born in puerto rico in ponce, can I get citizen from Spain?

You have to check NYC's Spanish consulate with any of your great grandparent's (born in or before 1917) at hand.

Remember, the fact that you were born in NYC, it is the same as if you were born in any of our island towns....or in any US town around our big US of A.

We are all Americans, aren't we?????

grandparent's birth certificate...

OOPPSSS!

Excuse that!

LOL

You actually don't have to take any greatgrandpa or ma to the Spanish Consul....LOL

http://leymemoria.mjusticia.gob.es/cs/Satelli... -

Jorge are you sure this is the case? I tried searching for more information and I haven't been able to find any. Also it appears there was a deadline for La Ley de Memoria Historica. Any additional info would be appreciated.

I was thinking maybe if one can't apply via la ley de memoria historica (due to passed deadlines or other) one could make the claim through artículo I de la Constitución de 1876. My grandfather was born in 1894, that would have made him a Spanish citizen by birth, a whole 4 years before Puerto Rico was lost to the US. That citizenship should be transferred to my father correct? He would have to apply for it and then I'd assume if he was granted it I then too could apply. Wishful thinking perhaps.

I doubt the Spanish Constitution of 1876 is still in effect ... the Spanish nation has undergone so many changes since then; the monarchy, then the communist republic, then the fascist "Estado Espanol" under France, then back to the monarchy in 1976.

It's worth a shot though. Contact the Spanish Embassy in Washington DC.

Gabo wrote:

I was thinking maybe if one can't apply via la ley de memoria historica (due to passed deadlines or other) one could make the claim through artículo I de la Constitución de 1876. My grandfather was born in 1894, that would have made him a Spanish citizen by birth, a whole 4 years before Puerto Rico was lost to the US. That citizenship should be transferred to my father correct? He would have to apply for it and then I'd assume if he was granted it I then too could apply. Wishful thinking perhaps.

The law applied to those who had at least one granparent who was imposed the US citizenship, for according to the Foraker law, these didn't renounced the Spanish one....

Apparently it had a sunset clause.

Meh so I guess I'm out of luck then.

grmo wrote:

Meh so I guess I'm out of luck then.

The worst battle is the one which isn't fought!

If you think you have the right, claim it!

Jorge wrote:

According to a new Spanish law, any Puerto Rican (born in Puerto Rico) who can prove that one of his/her grandparents was Spanish can obtain the Spanish citizenship (i.e. European Union).

samething should happend to those who are black, dont you think?

to correct mistake on previous note:

same thing should happend to those who have african heritage.

As far as I am concern the only citizenship I care about right now is the USA.

Good point, in fact I believe some of the more radical Black supremacists sponsored a "Back to Africa" campaign in the 1960s and 70s. Needless to say they dident last too long in the real world of post-colonial Africa ...

The only Puerto Ricans who are upset with US citizenship are the 'independentistas' and they are a very smaller - and increasingly smaller - minority.

to make dave happy wrote:

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samething should happend to those who are black, dont you think?

Remember that Spain is not all of Europe...

As far as the rest of Europe, any white American of European descent might as well drown, for all they care...

So, I guess that how it goes with Africa...

No country has offered their citizenship to any American of African descent...for all they care, they are not Africans...and I went to college with students from Nigeria, South Africa, Namibia, etc...and they don't consider any Black, from any country in the Americas, Africans...

For them, you have to be born in any African nation to be an African, the same as Europeans...

Los únicos que nos pasamos la vida deseando que nos quieran en Africa, Europa o hasta en China somos los de las Américas...LOL

LIer wrote:

Good point, in fact I believe some of the more radical Black supremacists sponsored a "Back to Africa" campaign in the 1960s and 70s. Needless to say they dident last too long in the real world of post-colonial Africa ...
The only Puerto Ricans who are upset with US citizenship are the 'independentistas' and they are a very smaller - and increasingly smaller - minority.

A friend of mine from South Africa (Black, by the way), used to tell me that they don't consider American Blacks, Africans...but he used to tell me in the strictest of confidence...I guess he was afraid of any negative reactions...

Africans from any nation in Africa are extremely proud, and even arrogant when it comes to sharing their different cultures and races....and they are extremely careful with whom they mingle socially and open up (I guess I was one of the few lucky ones).