Puertorico is poorer than the Dominican Republic

Statistically-speaking, Puerto Rico is poorer than the Dominican Republic. Even with the help of the US, Puerto Rico maintains a 45% poverty rate, which is a bit higher than the DR's 42%. Now just give Puerto Rico it's independence and it'll quickly turn into Haiti, and they'll be swimming to their neighbors like they did in the early 1900's.

I highly doubt Puerto Rico is 80% White, no White nation would have such a low poverty rate.

oops, my bad. meant to say "no white nation would have such a HIGH poverty rate"

Puerto rico has the high Per-capita income in Latin America. TPMP.

Correction: Puerto Rico has highest Percapita icome in Latin America. TPMP

Puerto Rico is a higher crim rate and poverty rate than the Dominican Republic.

And don't say that they're all illegal Dominicans, because I doubt that they make up 45% of Puerto Rico. And the majority of the upper class people in Puerto Rico are of Cuban or Dominican descent (although the ones of Cuban descent are more noticeable), Puerto Rico is a failure for a territory under US rule.

Galicianknight wrote:

Puerto Rico is a higher crim rate and poverty rate than the Dominican Republic.
And don't say that they're all illegal Dominicans, because I doubt that they make up 45% of Puerto Rico. And the majority of the upper class people in Puerto Rico are of Cuban or Dominican descent (although the ones of Cuban descent are more noticeable), Puerto Rico is a failure for a territory under US rule.

The majority of individuals that are in the upper social strata in P.R are Cuban and dominican?. Trully laughable. Certaintly a fair share of Cubans. Dominicans!.........You're hilarious. Let's not travel down this "slippery slope", once again!...... Where do you get your statistics from? A "playdoo" box?.....LOL......TPMP.

Galicianknight wrote:

Puerto Rico is a higher crim rate and poverty rate than the Dominican Republic.
And don't say that they're all illegal Dominicans, because I doubt that they make up 45% of Puerto Rico. And the majority of the upper class people in Puerto Rico are of Cuban or Dominican descent (although the ones of Cuban descent are more noticeable), Puerto Rico is a failure for a territory under US rule.

Give us the proof...where is your source? The Dominican Republic's crime rate is much higher if citizens reported corrupt police, but to whom? Here is just some stats from the Overseas Security Advisory Council: https://www.osac.gov/Reports/report.cfm...
"While the State Department rates the crime threat in Santo Domingo as high, the Dominican Government and local papers continue to report an increase in the number of incidents of violent crime and other criminal activity, such as robberies, residential burglaries, kidnappings, and thefts from vehicles and of credit/debit card information. The country's most violent cities are Santo Domingo, Hato Mayor, La Vega, Samana, San Jose de Ocoa and San Cristobal. Some of the factors that make this island paradise most vulnerable to crime and violence are unemployment, large scale migration to urban areas, drug and alcohol use, the drug trade and the widespread availability of weapons. In 2007, 38 percent of deaths were attributed to criminal activity, compared to 65.5 percent in 2008; 58.4 percent of all victims were between the ages of 18 and 34, 62.5 percent of all crimes happened between 6 p.m. and 6 a.m., 55.2 percent of the crimes happened between Monday and Thursday, and 92.6 percent of the victims were men who did not cooperate with the assailants."
Does this prove that crime in the DR is higher than PR? No, it just proves that crime infest every bit of the face of world.
The upper class are Cubans and Dominicans in Puerto Rico? Hombre, where are you getting that from?
Failures? Well, let us see...New York in the 70s under Mayor Beame almost declared NYC bankrupt. NYC was in bad shape, services were cut, wages were frozen, areas like the South Bronx and Brownsville, Brooklyn, etc, etc were a shameful plight on the city. Let us not forget that Times Square was a shameful strip of porn theaters, drug pushers, pimps and hookers until Mayor Rudy Giuliani cleaned it up. Can you call that period a failure too until Giuliani cleaned up the city?
Areas in Detriot, Washington D.C., Los Angeles, Cleveland, Chicago, city after city who's infrastructure and certain areas that are poverty stricken have for years have had problems just like Puerto Rico, they failures too?
If you are venting dislike by disguising it as "facts" it is just plain mordant hatred. I suggest that you separate opinions from truth with facts and statistics with a source.

http://welcome.topuertorico.org/economy.shtml
http://www.topix.com/world/puerto-rico/2009/1...

You can't seem to grasp the idea that the Dominican Republic is much bigger and has a much larger population in Puerto Rico, it only seems like the Dominican Republic is poorer because of it's size, thus allowing for more poverty-stricken areas. But statistically-speaking, Puerto Rico is poorer than the Dominican Republic

And you seem to underestimate the amount of legal middle class to upper class Dominicans residing in Puerto Rico, the illegal ones are just more noticeable in your "barrio".

Galicianknight wrote:

http://welcome.topuertorico.or g/economy.shtml
http://www.topix.com/world/puerto-rico/2009/1...
You can't seem to grasp the idea that the Dominican Republic is much bigger and has a much larger population in Puerto Rico, it only seems like the Dominican Republic is poorer because of it's size, thus allowing for more poverty-stricken areas. But statistically-speaking, Puerto Rico is poorer than the Dominican Republic

It's all "smoke and mirrors" with you......Isn't it?.....TPMP.

TPMP wrote:

<quoted text> It's all "smoke and mirrors" with you......Isn't it?.....TPMP.

He that is convinced against his own will is of the same opinion still....

Envy and hate does that to people...it blinds them and makes them exaggerate and tell lies...

Galicianknight wrote:

Statistically-speaking, Puerto Rico is poorer than the Dominican Republic. Even with the help of the US, Puerto Rico maintains a 45% poverty rate, which is a bit higher than the DR's 42%. Now just give Puerto Rico it's independence and it'll quickly turn into Haiti, and they'll be swimming to their neighbors like they did in the early 1900's.
I highly doubt Puerto Rico is 80% White, no White nation would have such a low poverty rate.

WRONG! The GDP per capita income for 2009 for Puerto Rico is $17,100.00 versus the Dominican Republic's $8,200.00. The DR is a third world country.

The pertinent question here is this: If PR is poorer than the DR, why are there hundreds of thousands of illegal Dominicans living in PR? Why did they risk their lives in the open sea to make it to PR?

The answers are obvious to all except GK.

Since the departure of the Spanish Empire in 1865, the people of the Dominican Republic have experienced political and civil disorder, ethnic tensions and long periods of military rule, occupation, oppressive dictatorships, and military interventions, as well as standing battles with corruption.

Even though the Dominican Republic is considered a low threat post for terrorism, the country still faces the challenge of organized crime, which involves a variety of activities, including drug trafficking, kidnapping, and corruption. Local drug use continues to increase as drug couriers in the Dominican Republic are often paid with narcotics rather than cash. Firearms are continually exchanged for drugs, as well. Finally, laundering the proceeds of drug sales undermines legitimate economic activity (i.e. real estate market, local casinos and currency exchange houses).

Civil unrest within the Dominican Republic has become a common occurrence in recent months due to the lack of adequate electricity and water resources. In addition to public protests within the National District, including the City University, demonstrations and strikes have occurred outside of Santo Domingo without advance notice and have turned violent.

On September 23, 2008, violent street clashes occurred in response to a police shooting in San Francisco de Macoris. Rioters threw items and burned tires with trash, and they blockaded the main thoroughfare and the surrounding neighborhoods.

On November 5, in response to the issuance of stiff traffic fines, violent street clashes between the Police and the transportation union took place in Santo Domingo (Zona Industrial de Herrera at Avenida 27 de Febrero and Avenida Luperon). As the police fired tear gas to disperse the crowd, the protesters threw rocks at the police and at oncoming cars.

Also in November, a National Police officer was shot while on patrol in Navarrete. According to sources, the officer was shot allegedly by an AR-15 rifle while he was monitoring street demonstrations resulting from electrical blackouts throughout the city. Demonstrations also took place in the cities of Santiago, Bonao, and La Vega. The people continue to demand the Government take action to prevent the power shortages.

The potential for industrial accidents by large infrastructures and industrial facilities containing hazardous materials, especially after a natural disaster, does exist. The town of Bajos de Haina is severely contaminated with lead from a now closed down vehicle battery recycling smelter and is on the list of the world's ten worst polluted places.

Kidnappings continue to increase in the Dominican Republic, and the country is becoming a victim to “express kidnappings," a method of abduction that is used to obtain small amounts of money by driving the victim from one ATM to another to withdraw the victim’s account limit. In response, the police are aggressively responding to reported incidents and working to solve them. Victims of reported cases included businesspersons, family members, common citizens and even taxi drivers.

Local news agencies have described the Dominican Republic as a springboard for drug operations by the Colombia cartels to the United States and Europe. According to host government anti-narcotics authorities, more than 200 trafficking flights occur annually, and over the past five years over 19,410 kilograms of cocaine and marijuana, 351 kilograms of heroin and about 430,000 tablets of ecstasy were seized. Such trafficking also involves frequent and violent clashes among rival drug traffickers, such as the notable killing of seven Colombians in Paya, Bani, who were accused of bringing some 1,300 kilos of cocaine into the country.