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Profiles Of Converts To The True Church Of Christ [Iglesia Ni Cristo]

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ELIAS IBARRA

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Feb 12, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
They were so happy and appreciative. The priest told me while I may be a non believer I acted in the ways of christ.
Every bite was cooked or given to the poor. Had a nun hug me so tight with tears in her eyes telling me wifey and Dad in law god bless us ect ect
It was a great feeling. To this day we receive emails and even a letter thanking us.
Atheist Lucy,

The way of Christ is not about grandstanding and blowing your own trumpet!!! God through Christ has made several commandments for man to follow!!! You have to follow everything and not just just what you to!!! Just following a few of the commands but disregarding the rest will not make man attain salvation!!!

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ELIAS IBARRA

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#1165
Feb 12, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
It was President Regan that said that elias. Get your head injury checked.
Atheist Lucy,

Do you think that I don't know??? You don't have to tell me!!! Yes, Mr. Reagan told those words to an atheist!!! He included you though!!!

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Feb 12, 2012
 
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In Cebu I met the old priest who was running the church wifey went to as a child and her family still go to today. A kind gentleman, never been in any trouble. A very humble man who lives a simple life. We went to the church and he was out front eating his lunch sharing it's with some poor kids and the woman I guess the kids mom. He gave them little biscuits and wrapped candies. Divided up his sandwich and gave most of that away ass well. He told them later he would have some rice and soup and they were welcome to have some.
Talking to him I asked if they were members of his church. He said no but empty bellies know no church. He wished he could only offer more. That he often continues on hungry as he shares even his lunch with the poor. Wifey, her family along with him and his deacon tried I guess converting me. I told him that I couldn't believe in god because no matter how you frame it there simply is no proof. He told me all thoughtful people doubted god or had moments their faith was shaken.
Obviously he didn't make me believe in the magic man in the clouds lol but his generosity and compassion even for those kids and their mother who weren't catholic made me respect him. I had Dad in law get his truck and I went out and bought hundreds of kilos of rice along with crates of canned foods soups lots of dried milk candy ect. Dropped about $800 total on it all and we had to make two trips to get it all there.
They were so happy and appreciative. The priest told me while I may be a non believer I acted in the ways of christ.
Every bite was cooked or given to the poor. Had a nun hug me so tight with tears in her eyes telling me wifey and Dad in law god bless us ect ect
It was a great feeling. To this day we receive emails and even a letter thanking us.
great post my friend. i just wish there are more people like that.

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Feb 12, 2012
 
All you ever do on here is grandstand and blow the trumpet bragging about all the wealth and glorious expensive temples of inc. You are a hypocrite sir exactly what jesus hated the most.


I didn't brag those poor people gave me far more then I gave them. Something you would understand if you or your cult gave a damn about anyone other then yourself.

I was happy to help the people in cebu who could have used that food. Only a maniac like you would find what I did as negative.

See unlike you and your cult I helped people based on their need not what church they attended or didn't attend.
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Atheist Lucy,
The way of Christ is not about grandstanding and blowing your own trumpet!!! God through Christ has made several commandments for man to follow!!! You have to follow everything and not just just what you to!!! Just following a few of the commands but disregarding the rest will not make man attain salvation!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
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Feb 12, 2012
 
My friend there are more progressives like me out there, we build colleges schools and hospitals. Research labs and clinics to help our fellow man. I would like to see the philippines make a concentrated effort to attract more progressives and listen to what they have to say.
Bogz the Perv wrote:
<quoted text>great post my friend. i just wish there are more people like that.

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Feb 13, 2012
 
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Think if u read about his history, he sold his tribe out signing the revomal act while Ross was in DC.
I do have some sympathy for the Indians who sided with the Confedrates during the Civil War. After all the Federal government had cheated and lied to the Indians since the founding of the country, so The Confederate government could not be any worse.
The Confedrate government also appointed Albert Pike as their chief of Indian affairs who was well respected by Native Americans. Albert Pike was a lawyer who sued the Federal government on behalf of the Indians and won several cases.But when he won his case against the removal of the Cherokee Indians from North Carolina and Tennessee in the Supreme court , Andrew Jackson famously said let the Supreme court enforce it.

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#1170
Feb 13, 2012
 
I am a Christian, but here a few of my beliefs.
First you are not going to convert anyone over the internet.
To convert some one truly they need to see how you really live and act as a Christian, not how well they tell stories.
I for one know I still have plenty of rough edges so really dont want to hold myself up as an example,
And you should use the Bible not turn to any man for inspiration from God. If some one tells you to read a Verse, Read the whole chapter and the one before and after it. The Bible is very easy to read and the message comes across easy in my opinion.
Blindly following man leads to things like the Crusades and burning of Witchs.. When any people come and tell you follow us blindly for OUR leaders only know God's will and they are not to be questioned , it time to run as far as possible.
And as far as proof of God goes. I would suggest people read up on Descartes and Lao Tse as far as proof goes.
ELIAS IBARRA

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Feb 13, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
You see Elias? Even as an atheist I am more christian then you. Think about that for a second. what you and your cult can't grasp is that being a christian isn't about what church you walk into but how you live your life.
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Atheist Lucy,
Boasting and grandstanding is not a Christian act!!! How can you behave like a Christian when your posts are replete of threats that you would place epoxy on the bathrooms of the Iglesia Ni Cristo chapels!!! You are already exposed of what you are and there is no more chance for you to deceive the public with your pretenses!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
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ELIAS IBARRA

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Feb 13, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
All you ever do on here is grandstand and blow the trumpet bragging about all the wealth and glorious expensive temples of inc. You are a hypocrite sir exactly what jesus hated the most.
I didn't brag those poor people gave me far more then I gave them. Something you would understand if you or your cult gave a damn about anyone other then yourself.
I was happy to help the people in cebu who could have used that food. Only a maniac like you would find what I did as negative.
See unlike you and your cult I helped people based on their need not what church they attended or didn't attend.
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Atheist Lucy,
Providing information to the public about the beautiful and grandiose chapels constructed and purchased by the Iglesia is not bragging but a dissimination of truthful information about the last work of salvation!!!

We have the right to inform the public about such because it provides a very useful clue to those who are searching for the truth that indeed the true Church of Christ has morphed from its humble beginning towards a glorious stature which God had prophesied beforehand for His own glory!!! The glorious stature of the Iglesia Ni Cristo is but the work of God who has made it possible in less than a century!!!

You blew your trumpet already when you gave just a little and not knowing that what you gave was not actually yours but from God!!! Stop sounding your horn just to grandstand!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
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ELIAS IBARRA

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Feb 13, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
My friend there are more progressives like me out there, we build colleges schools and hospitals. Research labs and clinics to help our fellow man. I would like to see the philippines make a concentrated effort to attract more progressives and listen to what they have to say.
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Atheist Lucy,
You are just claiming to be part of the progressives but in reality you belong to the retrogressives!!! Atheism is not about progressing but of backsliding to falsities and corruption!!! Why do you think that the authors of the atheist Cambodian Killing Fields are under trial??? Why do you think Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote about the evils of the atheist-concocted Gulag Archipelago???

The Iglesia Ni Cristo is the only progressive and dynamic movement that is sanctioned by God in these last days!!! It is the biblical "loud cry" proselytized by the man who is likened to a bird of prey and is chosen by God to propel the last work of salvation in these end times!!! And the "loud cry" or dynamic movement has become a force to be reckoned with to the dismay of her enemies and detractors alike!!! THE "LOUD CRY" IS NOW PRESENT IN ALL THE HABITABLE CONTINENTS IN LESS THAN A CENTURY!!! BUT THE FALSITIES OF THE ATHEISTS TOGETHER WITH THE SCAMS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLICS AND PROTESTANT HAVE SUCCUMBED TO THE "NEW THRESHING INSTRUMENT FROM THE ISLANDS OF THE SEA IN THE EAST END [MIZRACH]!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
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#1174
Feb 13, 2012
 
Ohhhhh so when I mention helping out some people in need I am grandstanding but when you rant and rave screaming racist comments and brag about the show of materialism of inc that's not grandstanding?

You indeed are a programmed drone unable to think or reason for yourself.

Don't forget to bow low to the atheist chinese ok? Bow low to those atheists.

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Feb 13, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Ohhhhh so when I mention helping out some people in need I am grandstanding but when you rant and rave screaming racist comments and brag about the show of materialism of inc that's not grandstanding?
You indeed are a programmed drone unable to think or reason for yourself.
Don't forget to bow low to the atheist chinese ok? Bow low to those atheists.
I don't like the racist remarks he gives you. Already this will steer people way from INC.

You are above them GML. You are actually helping out people and this is what the world really needs. Not all these grand buildings and bragging.

Thank goodness that the world is slowly becoming more secular and practical.

Early humans needed religion to keep their faith going in order to survive. They were tribal and they lived in harsh conditions with the threat of other tribes. Organized religion did help mankind in uniting groups of people and progressed their societies. Today however, it is outdated as it had its use.

ALL ORGANIZED RELIGIONS are false and are used to control the masses. Simple as that.

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Feb 14, 2012
 
Exactly bud. It was my pleasure helping give those people in need a hand up. Since then we still get letters, pictures, hand drawn art from some of those we helped. We went to the first dinner and a nun was introducing us to the locals she went on to tell them that we had donated all the food until I told her to stop. We just wanted to see the food go to use and it help the people not get swarmed lol then when she stopped the priest mentioned us during the prayer. Wifey was like gosh!!! He said it in bisaya so our names were the only words I really knew Lol

Obviously they didn't convert me nor did I them but that's not what it was about my friend. It was about helping those in need regardless of religion, race, country. As the priest said empty bellies know no religion. I agreed with that if not much else he said. Oh and all the hugs, kisses on the cheek, handshakes and pats on the back I got while wifey feverishly translated for me showed me that my race or country of origin didn't matter one bit. In fact being multiracial it was funny them trying to guess my nationality lol heard italian, spanish, part egyptian even. And if I only had a peso for each time I was I was told down there I looked like the rock or vin diesel I'd have enough money to buy us all some starbucks lol

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Feb 14, 2012
 
Wifey's little niece and nephew tells all their friends and classmates all kinds of crazy stories that they best not tease or bully them because their uncle is a body builder that can whip anyone and has arms bigger then their whole body. Lol I do work out a lot but really more cardio then weights.

In fact it pisses me off I am stuck on 450lbs on barbell shrugs, a total plateau anyone have any tips on breaking that? Don? Anyone? Makes me laugh about the whole my uncle the body builder thing though lol

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Feb 14, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Wifey's little niece and nephew tells all their friends and classmates all kinds of crazy stories that they best not tease or bully them because their uncle is a body builder that can whip anyone and has arms bigger then their whole body. Lol I do work out a lot but really more cardio then weights.
In fact it pisses me off I am stuck on 450lbs on barbell shrugs, a total plateau anyone have any tips on breaking that? Don? Anyone? Makes me laugh about the whole my uncle the body builder thing though lol
Vin Diesel, how could you do a movie like The Pacifier???? Lame dude, lame!!!! Just joke lang:)

I used to do weights but now I just do cardio. I get tired from work so I rather just get fit. Yeah when you get into a plateau it can get frustrating.

Yeah. In America, interracial relationships are much more common there than here in Australia. Ethnic groups tend to go for their own kind. Australia is about 20 years behind America in terms of IR relationships.

I find American women easier to talk to than Australian women. Australian women tend to be reserved and not mingle much with those who are not similar to them. Although things are slowly changing, there is a bit of a stigma in dating those who are not the "same kind" as them.

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Feb 14, 2012
 
Lol I don't take offense probably the rock and vin diesel are the first two multiracial built tall guys that comes to mind for them.
And yes indeed mostly their movies are craptastic lol.

Maybe Don will happen by the thread amd have some tips. Honestly 450 shrugs isn't to bad but at the gym I always run into the same gym rat who lives on weights and we goof on each other. Him saying I work out to look good but beneath that I'm soft and I joke about his double chin and gut lol But on shrugs he can put so much on the barbell bends! I can't break past 450lb shrugs have been stuck there for a month and it's getting annoying. It's all in good fun but we can get loud goofing on each other. The trainers probably think we're gonna start fist fighting but nah we even hang out afterwards sometimes. Wifey just rolls her eyes and hits the yoga area. Lol
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Feb 14, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
My friend there are more progressives like me out there, we build colleges schools and hospitals. Research labs and clinics to help our fellow man. I would like to see the philippines make a concentrated effort to attract more progressives and listen to what they have to say.
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Feb 14, 2012
 
please take down #804. I am no longer with this church and this article was written over 25 years ago. thank you. Sincerely, ms. ratsch
ELIAS IBARRA

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Feb 14, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
You see Elias? Even as an atheist I am more christian then you. Think about that for a second. what you and your cult can't grasp is that being a christian isn't about what church you walk into but how you live your life.
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Atheist Lucy,
If your contention is true then what is Christ's purpose in establishing a Church??? He established His Church which is the Iglesia Ni Cristo because that is where He gathers those whom He will save from perdition!!! He gave His life for it and not for the false religions of Roman Catholicism and Protestantism!!!

You are just an atheist and therefore it is naive for you to explain and talk about Christianity who belives in a singualr God!!! You are not the proper party to explain about Christianity but those whom God commissioned!!! You are thus in a strange territory!!! You are in the wrong place!!! You can' even explain your theory of evolution!!!

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Feb 14, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
My friend there are more progressives like me out there, we build colleges schools and hospitals. Research labs and clinics to help our fellow man. I would like to see the philippines make a concentrated effort to attract more progressives and listen to what they have to say.
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Atheist Lucy,
Are you referring to the progressive "greedy capitalists"??? Is borrowing from China already a progressive act after raising so much accusation to stir up trouble???

The Iglesia Ni Cristo does not borrow when she builds grandiose and beautiful chapels and when purchasing the chapels of the Roman Catholic and Protestant cults!!!

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