Exclusive: U.S. military seeks more access in Philippines

PH needs Uncle Sam

last tower wrote:

PH needs Uncle Sam

And guess what? The USA needs the Philippines just as badly as the Philippines needs the USA. Its the only way they will be able to stand up to the Chinese.

U.S. ships and aircraft are seeking access for re-supply, re-fueling and repairs, not just for goodwill visits, exercises and training activities, the diplomat said.

last tower wrote:

PH needs Uncle Sam

Yes, The Philippines needs the United States as the country is so f@cking hopeless to do anything for itself.

Fortunate Son 1968 wrote:

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And guess what? The USA needs the Philippines just as badly as the Philippines needs the USA. Its the only way they will be able to stand up to the Chinese.
U.S. ships and aircraft are seeking access for re-supply, re-fueling and repairs, not just for goodwill visits, exercises and training activities, the diplomat said.

yeah but thats only true if you can see both sides fort- most here are one-eyed as you well know .

I see it as the Americans holding their hands out begging for a base here -now china is seen as a threat.lol

thats right kenny stay glued to your fcukin screen kenny make sure your not missing out kenny blaa blaa this blaa blaa that why will no one pay any fcukin attention to what my fcukin ego has to say

fcuk this topic up too kenny if i see fortunate son putting up a topic in this forum i will be part off it that way you are also pissing on him and any one else ok cock head

Bwhahahahahahhahahahahhah wrote:

I see it as the Americans holding their hands out begging for a base here -now china is seen as a threat.lol

As they said if you read they don't want a base just refueling and supplies something all countries do in cooperation. The U.S. allows military ships from all over the wold to port in the U.S. to refuel and supply as do other countries.

Why is it that the Philippines has to be so paranoid and hard headed especially when it's in their interest to protect the Spratly's. Fu@k the Philippines let them hang on their own. Too stupid to even accept help unless it's free cash.

But they have to give something in return for their protection. GIVE SOMETHING!!!!!! OH FU@K NO!!!!

Bwhahahahahahhahahahahhah wrote:

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yeah but thats only true if you can see both sides fort- most here are one-eyed as you well know .

If the shet ever hits the fan with China/America 1st thing that will vanish are American bases in Japan and Okinawa. China owes them "Japan" an ass-kicking from ww11. If that happens no major bases for the USA in the Pacific except Guam.
Now the Philippines looks good for the US Navy.

Fortunate Son 1968 wrote:

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If the shet ever hits the fan with China/America 1st thing that will vanish are American bases in Japan and Okinawa. China owes them "Japan" an ass-kicking from ww11. If that happens no major bases for the USA in the Pacific except Guam.
Now the Philippines looks good for the US Navy.

As far as active combat goes Subic Bay is the worse place to have a base. Narrow entrance with an island right in the middle would be like shooting fish in a barrel for the Chinese.

This is not like WWII. With precision guided long range munitions on both sides around a small island like the Philippines is the reason for no bases. It would be a carrier war and China has just one.

Don the American wrote:

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As far as active combat goes Subic Bay is the worse place to have a base. Narrow entrance with an island right in the middle would be like shooting fish in a barrel for the Chinese.
This is not like WWII. With precision guided long range munitions on both sides around a small island like the Philippines is the reason for no bases. It would be a carrier war and China has just one.

There would more then likely be no combat in Subic or on any of the Islands in the PI. America would only need the PI for resupply and repair. We have what 12 Carrier Battle groups still on the Navy s Rosters but all over the world. China has maybe two Carriers and one or two more being built but a shet load of subs and surface ships, long range bombers and many fighters. Lets just hope it never comes to a shooting conflict.

Fortunate Son 1968 wrote:

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If the shet ever hits the fan with China/America 1st thing that will vanish are American bases in Japan and Okinawa. China owes them "Japan" an ass-kicking from ww11. If that happens no major bases for the USA in the Pacific except Guam.
Now the Philippines looks good for the US Navy.

There are many countries in the area that are more than happy to have a carrier group call in for fuel, supplies and R&R.
They are all want the dollars it brings in.
If China ever attacked Japan I think everyone will be worrying about more than bases in the Philippines.

Bwhahahahahahhahahahahhah wrote:

I see it as the Americans holding their hands out begging for a base here -now china is seen as a threat.lol

ignorance in it's purest form. Got to love gagos like you kenneth.

Fortunate Son 1968 wrote:

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There would more then likely be no combat in Subic or on any of the Islands in the PI. America would only need the PI for resupply and repair. We have what 12 Carrier Battle groups still on the Navy s Rosters but all over the world. China has maybe two Carriers and one or two more being built but a shet load of subs and surface ships, long range bombers and many fighters. Lets just hope it never comes to a shooting conflict.

For repair? Are you serious? Have you ever had a Filipino try and repair your aircon or your car or your computer???
Would you really trust one with a nuclear powered carrier or submarine?
You take your computer in here and it comes back with a cheap hardrive in it because they stole and sold your good one.
Or your car goes in for a service and the tyres and battery are swapped for something cheaper. Alway's take a photo of everything before you send it for repair and write down the serial numbers.

Colonel Ingus wrote:

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There are many countries in the area that are more than happy to have a carrier group call in for fuel, supplies and R&R.
They are all want the dollars it brings in.
If China ever attacked Japan I think everyone will be worrying about more than bases in the Philippines.

China's not about to do anything in the very near future except continue to build up their Army, Navy and Air forces. They wont do a damn thing until their strength is close to Americas and that's still a long ways off but at a steady growth rate in their military they will close the gap then watch out.

Colonel Ingus wrote:

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For repair? Are you serious? Have you ever had a Filipino try and repair your aircon or your car or your computer???
Would you really trust one with a nuclear powered carrier or submarine?
You take your computer in here and it comes back with a cheap hardrive in it because they stole and sold your good one.
Or your car goes in for a service and the tyres and battery are swapped for something cheaper. Alway's take a photo of everything before you send it for repair and write down the serial numbers.

It's all in how you look at thye big picture. Some look at the glass half full while others look at it half empty. FS68 has choosen to look at it half full with a cold one in the fridge lol. If youre gonna spend the time here might as well be positive about it. Personally I think it's a bit much at times but thats just my opinion. I would think he is happier looking at everything in that shade

I can't exactly remember but I read in one news article something about China's capability to blow up satellites. I wonder how America's overall military agility and strength would be affected if China starts shooting down satellites when push comes to shove.

Colonel Ingus wrote:

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For repair? Are you serious? Have you ever had a Filipino try and repair your aircon or your car or your computer???
Would you really trust one with a nuclear powered carrier or submarine?
You take your computer in here and it comes back with a cheap hardrive in it because they stole and sold your good one.
Or your car goes in for a service and the tyres and battery are swapped for something cheaper. Alway's take a photo of everything before you send it for repair and write down the serial numbers.

America has their own maintenance Techs. and repair crews they only need the ports for dry dock, resupply and what not. So no one is talking of letting Filipinos do the work.

Fortunate Son 1968 wrote:

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America has their own maintenance Techs. and repair crews they only need the ports for dry dock, resupply and what not. So no one is talking of letting Filipinos do the work.

I was joking!!
But seriously it would cost billions to upgrade the facilities in Subic to be able to repair a US navy ship there. It will never happen. They even carted the "Cole" half way around the world to repair it.

Posted on Monday, July 4th, 2011

"Subic, Zambales: Some 500 workers from Hanjin Shipyard protested against alleged unfair labor practice and maltreatment of workers inside the shipyard Sunday.

The protest action in Subic was the end of a series of protest action against Hanjin Shipyard, the workers also trooped to the Korean Embassy and the Department of Labor and Employment in Manila before proceeding to Subic town in Zambales for its protest caravan.

The protest caravan did not manage to get close to the shipyard gate in Subic town after it was blocked by members of the Zambales police. Instead CBCP represented by Bishop Broderick Pabillo held a mass along the national highway leading to Hanjin."

pasig yankeeNY wrote:

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ignorance in it's purest form. Got to love gagos like you kenneth.

yes but dont you just love his fcuked up support group i mean fcuked up personalitys and he still hangs glued fcukin with people thinking he is so smart like connecting to a proxy server in australia

two of his personalitys are know pressent in this topic

Kiwi Thumper wrote:

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yes but dont you just love his fcuked up support group i mean fcuked up personalitys and he still hangs glued fcukin with people thinking he is so smart like connecting to a proxy server in australia
two of his personalitys are know pressent in this topic

ken has no proxy servers, never used any other countries locations, unless otherwise, he is in that country, you idiot. Think think think