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Sherjat

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Jul 30, 2012
 
So the option you are giving is that do we want to be ruled by the decendents of those that tortured and killed our ancestors or by Indians.

Mr fact, we are a nation of 185 million people. Our native aryan tribes are at least 120 million if not more. Why can we not represent ourselves.

This is the best option for us. Being ruled by the decendents of turko/arab facists is not acceptable to us. The reason is that

firstly they are the decendents of invaders.

secondly for the above reason they glorify their ancestors and humiliate our ancestors.

thirdly for the above reasons they whitewash history and try to teach history which is selective and started 1400 years ago instead of histroy which is complete and started 5000 years ago.

Fourthly for all of the above reasons they fear that they will face a bad day and so push our people from any power incase we speak against them. This is the reason that if you go to Sindh and southern punjab the sayyed and arab dominated pir class is against education and only allow madressa so that our people remain illiterate peasans who work as slaves for them in return for there blessings which will send us to heaven.

They the non arayan people do not want our country to prosper or develop as development will weaken them.

Fifthly in pursuit of their aims the turko arabs are against India which is not in our aryan interests.

This is why we do not want to be ruled by the sons of invaders.

Also you said we are muslim first and then Jatts and Rajput. NO Mr fact we will be Muslims first when arabs, turks, afghans and Albanains become muslims first. We are not surrendering our land for Islam. When all muslims declare that they are muslim first then we will think about it. Until then our land is ours. Our borders are not open to invaders or beggars.

Why MA Jinnah thought he needed Pakistan is stated by him and i can assure you that any view you hold that we are enemies of Hindus is wrong. Even to this day in Kashmir ( where you say you come from) Hindus and muslims are living very happily. The Muslim Butts and living with the Hindu Butts as they did for 1000 years.

Punjab has been divided and it was wrong that we were divided and the only beneficiaries were the turko arabs. The reason that i say this is that if you read history when Ranjit Singh ruled he appointed Khwaja Almas Khan ( A Jatt) as governor and he kicked out all the Pathans who were decended from invaders in eastern punjab. After the British attacked this policy was halted. The turko arab facists feared that once the British go these native people will do the same again and so they played the game of divide and rule along with the British. The Sayyeds who were pirs were always loyal to the British and never opposed them and so the British were happy to go along with this plan as they too were worried by the jatts and natives who opposed the British rule.

Anyway there is no point crying about spilt milk but we want to rule our country and have a good relationship with our neighbours.
Don

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#472
Jul 30, 2012
 
People of Turko-Arab descend think that we were their slaves. They still want to rule us. They cme with a long term plan. Treacherously they captured our land and divided us in the name of religion.


These outsiders are scared that if we unite, we will be strong again and Aryans will get back their lost glory. Pakistan belongs to Rajputs, Jats, Gujjars and some other aryan tribes like Khokhars. We will be very happy if our brothers get back their land back. Hostilities between India and Pakistan will also go down once both countries would be ruled by aryan clans.
Don

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#473
Jul 30, 2012
 
People like Khan, who is a pathan was trying to divide Jats and Rajputs, who are two larger aryan tribes of Pakistan. Together they will become a big force, and these sons of invaders do not want that.
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Jul 31, 2012
 
Mr. don, why do you want to convert muslim Rajputs back to the Hindu religion?.If muslim Rajputs convert back to the Hindu religion, what rewards will they get?.When muslims converted some Rajputs to the muslim religion, they rewarded them by letting them keep their rajpat and takh-o-taj.They let them keep their states, their jagirs,their forts and havelis, their lands and properties, their power and prestige and gave them honour and respect and top jobs in the government.
:In Pakistan, there are approximately 40 million Rajputs.That is about 20% of the population of pakistan.In Pakistan, Rajputs have got lot of respect and power.If they are qualified, they can get any job they want.I have read in newspapers that in India, Hindu rajputs are not allowed to get any government jobs.Hindu rajputs are asking for job reservations, but the non-Rajput Indian govrenment won,t gave them job reservations.If muslim rajputs convert back to Hindu religion, they won,t be allowed any government jobs.So, what is the point for converting back?.A few years ago i read in the newapapers that some 40 thousand muslim chauhans converted back to Hindu religion, but afterwards they reverted back to Islam again.May be they were not rewarded well for their conversions.If they had been rewarded with wealth and power,land and property, big bank balances,top government jobs and given respect and honour, then they might not have reverted back.
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Jul 31, 2012
 
conversions wrote:
Mr. don, why do you want to convert muslim Rajputs back to the Hindu religion?.If muslim Rajputs convert back to the Hindu religion, what rewards will they get?.When muslims converted some Rajputs to the muslim religion, they rewarded them by letting them keep their rajpat and takh-o-taj.They let them keep their states, their jagirs,their forts and havelis, their lands and properties, their power and prestige and gave them honour and respect and top jobs in the government.
:In Pakistan, there are approximately 40 million Rajputs.That is about 20% of the population of pakistan.In Pakistan, Rajputs have got lot of respect and power.If they are qualified, they can get any job they want.I have read in newspapers that in India, Hindu rajputs are not allowed to get any government jobs.Hindu rajputs are asking for job reservations, but the non-Rajput Indian govrenment won,t gave them job reservations.If muslim rajputs convert back to Hindu religion, they won,t be allowed any government jobs.So, what is the point for converting back?.A few years ago i read in the newapapers that some 40 thousand muslim chauhans converted back to Hindu religion, but afterwards they reverted back to Islam again.May be they were not rewarded well for their conversions.If they had been rewarded with wealth and power,land and property, big bank balances,top government jobs and given respect and honour, then they might not have reverted back.
We are not like your Arab, Turk and Afghan brothers, who forced our people to convert. We do not force anybody to accept our faith. I am discussing with our Pakistani Rajput and Jat brothers about our Aryan culture and our roots. Why does it irk you ? Are you feeling insecure ?

Arabs, Turks and Afghans were sworn enemies of Jats and Rajputs. These invaders captured their land, slaughtered their brothers and forced them to convert. They accepted Islam to save their women and children from these beasts. Do you know how brave Rajput ladies had to perform ''jauhar'' to save themselves from Arabs and Turks. What have you given to our Rajput brothers in Pakistan except Kuran ? You always humiliate them as your slaves and converts from Hinduism. Jagirs that Rajputs had, belonged their ancestors and not Arabs or Turks. Arabs and Turks were those who snatched their Kingdoms.

We know what is condition of Rajputs in Pakistan and how much respect you give them. What facilities and researvations have your government given to them ? Who told you that indian rajputs do not get jobs ? So far economic and social condition are concerned, their position is much better than Pakistani Rajputs. All your in information of reconversion of 40 thousand rajputs are totaly wrong.
Sherjat

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#476
Jul 31, 2012
 
Nobody is asking anyone to convert. Rajputs are aryans and we are reminding them of their history. If they want to be muslims so be it but they must not be humiliated. If they want to be Hindus it is still OK but they cannot expect anything financial in return. Faith is a spiritual matter and should not necessitate wealth or benefits. This was the approach of the pirs and arabs who wanted wealth becuase of their religion. As a Jatt i can say we do not want free money we can work for our money and wealth and status, we just want what is ours ( namely our country) respect and a fair crack of the whip. With equal opportunities our people go far and i am sure the Rajputs want nothing and they will not barter there spirituality for a few coins of silver.

These are the actions of arabs, turks, iranians and afghans. They will do anything for money.
Don

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#477
Jul 31, 2012
 
I don't think any religion is so important. Religion is just a way to worship the almighty. The way of worship may differ in place to place and community to community, but God is one. Their is no perfect religion in this world. There are some evils in all religions, because the religions are created by humans. Only almighty is true, because he is not created by us. So telling other that my way is better than you is wrong. Spirituality is different from religion. Kabir did not believe in any rituals, but he was a great devotee of god.

It depends upon the choice of Rajputs and Jats, whether they want to follow Islam or to go back to Sanatan Dharma.
snowvanshirajput s

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#478
Aug 1, 2012
 
I am not talking about a few silver coins.I am talking about billions of dollars.If you give one million dollars to each muslim Rajput family,they might convert back to the religion of their ancestors.Or, you could give one crore rupees to each man, woman and child.Majority of people change their religion by force or for financial aid.Very few change by studying the other religions.You can try this experiment in Kashmir. if successful try it in other places.After converting the Kashmiri Rajputs, you can give them the name of Snow Vanshi Rajputs, because it snows in Kashmir.You can give them the names of Sullah Rajputs, Mullah Rajputs and Katwa Rajputs.After a few centuries, Pandits can claim that they created Snow Vanshi Rajputs from the snows of Siachen Glacier.LOL.
rajput defence

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#479
Aug 1, 2012
 
In India, Hindu Rajputs have no respect.At the time of independence, Hindu rajput kings were persuaded by Kathris and Brahmins in the congress party to join the Indian union.Hindu Rajput kings signed over their states in the name of Hindu Dharam and Hindustan.They were promised privy purses.In the seventy,s their privy purses were abolished by the Kathri and Brahmin government.In the fifty,s, Rajput lands and jagirs were stolen by the Kathris and Brahmins and given to the poor people to by their votes.Rajputs fought hard to save their lands but no one listened.Rajputs had sacrificed millions of lives to save these lands from foreign invaders.Rajputs had to go through blood and fire to save these lands.Rajputs had to go through thousands of sakhas and jauhars.Jaipuries had to make matrimonial alliances and sacrifice their honour to save their Hindu dharma and Hindustan.Bhattis of Bhatner had to sacrifice their Hindu dharma to save their honour because they did not want to make matrimonial alliances.during the thousand years Rajputs had to suffer tremenduos atrocities.If you read the history written by foreign invaders, you will start feeling sorry for Rajputs.The Indian media, press and bollywood industry is mainly in the hands of the above two castes.Thay make movies like Jodha Akbar in order to humiliate Rajput community.There are lot of national and multinational companies in India. why does the government not make company reforms and distribute all the wealth among the poor people.There should be respect for Rajputs at the government level,at least.
Don

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Aug 1, 2012
 
snowvanshirajputs wrote:
I am not talking about a few silver coins.I am talking about billions of dollars.If you give one million dollars to each muslim Rajput family,they might convert back to the religion of their ancestors.Or, you could give one crore rupees to each man, woman and child.Majority of people change their religion by force or for financial aid.Very few change by studying the other religions.You can try this experiment in Kashmir. if successful try it in other places.After converting the Kashmiri Rajputs, you can give them the name of Snow Vanshi Rajputs, because it snows in Kashmir.You can give them the names of Sullah Rajputs, Mullah Rajputs and Katwa Rajputs.After a few centuries, Pandits can claim that they created Snow Vanshi Rajputs from the snows of Siachen Glacier.LOL.
Your ancestors used these tricks to convert hindus to Islam with help of Pirs. Why are you making fun of Rajputs ? Your comments show how much respect Pthans and Arabs have for Rajputs.
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Aug 1, 2012
 
rajput defence wrote:
In India, Hindu Rajputs have no respect.At the time of independence, Hindu rajput kings were persuaded by Kathris and Brahmins in the congress party to join the Indian union.Hindu Rajput kings signed over their states in the name of Hindu Dharam and Hindustan.They were promised privy purses.In the seventy,s their privy purses were abolished by the Kathri and Brahmin government.In the fifty,s, Rajput lands and jagirs were stolen by the Kathris and Brahmins and given to the poor people to by their votes.Rajputs fought hard to save their lands but no one listened.Rajputs had sacrificed millions of lives to save these lands from foreign invaders.Rajputs had to go through blood and fire to save these lands.Rajputs had to go through thousands of sakhas and jauhars.Jaipuries had to make matrimonial alliances and sacrifice their honour to save their Hindu dharma and Hindustan.Bhattis of Bhatner had to sacrifice their Hindu dharma to save their honour because they did not want to make matrimonial alliances.during the thousand years Rajputs had to suffer tremenduos atrocities.If you read the history written by foreign invaders, you will start feeling sorry for Rajputs.The Indian media, press and bollywood industry is mainly in the hands of the above two castes.Thay make movies like Jodha Akbar in order to humiliate Rajput community.There are lot of national and multinational companies in India. why does the government not make company reforms and distribute all the wealth among the poor people.There should be respect for Rajputs at the government level,at least.
Three posts and three IDs ! LOL why are you changing so many IDs difference between Indian and Pakistani Rajputs as it benefits you people. You are not hear to defend Rajputs but to humiliate them.

Rajputs suffered in the the hands of your ancestors and not Indians. Your forefathers captured their land and and brutally killed their brothers. We know how coward Ghori killed a brave Rajput Prithviraj Chauhan. So you will not be able to mislead Rajputs.

In India Rajputs are not humiliated as they are in Pakistan. They get respect as the descendants of Royal people. They are mostly well off and hold high positions. Their economic condition is much better than Pakistani Rajputs. could you tell me about the economic condition of Rajputs in Pakistan, who have become slaves in their own country ?
dodgy castes

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Aug 1, 2012
 
pm of pak is a dodgy fraudster type rajput. in fact it is very hard to find a truthful sincere rajput most are thieves or working in police as thieves and robbers. if u ask anyone in pak what is a rajput they have no clue it is just a petty title. they use raja but you see them selling pakoras and somasas. where i live most butcher trade is run by rajputs. i am not rajput but in past i had offer for a daughter of a rajput and we said no thank you. actually
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#483
Aug 1, 2012
 
what makes me laugh is their persistence in living off reputation of days before they converted to Islam. they always tell their children how they are royal but you see them living like poor beggars.

One thing is certain that you should never trust a paki rajput he would sell his mother for money. envy is his greatest disease when he looks at someone in a nice car it hurts him, when he sees new bungalow houses and looks at his mudhut it hurts him. now only option left is to offer my daughter to these people then i will go up in status he thinks. very much like his ancestors the rathore, kachawas who gave women to muslims to keep their rule.
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#484
Aug 1, 2012
 
dodgy castes wrote:
what makes me laugh is their persistence in living off reputation of days before they converted to Islam. they always tell their children how they are royal but you see them living like poor beggars.
One thing is certain that you should never trust a paki rajput he would sell his mother for money. envy is his greatest disease when he looks at someone in a nice car it hurts him, when he sees new bungalow houses and looks at his mudhut it hurts him. now only option left is to offer my daughter to these people then i will go up in status he thinks. very much like his ancestors the rathore, kachawas who gave women to muslims to keep their rule.
Rajputs are beggars and Pathans are very affluent ! Do pathans have any culture ? They were the people who were first enslaved by Turks. Atleast Rajputs fought with those invaders, but Pathans surrendered to them without much resistance. Latter they became their slaves and helped them in their brutal acts.

If Rajputs and Jats of Pakistan unites, they will become a big force and they will rule Panjab and Sindh once again.
Thank you God

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#485
Aug 2, 2012
 
Mr. fact, on the one hand you are saying Rajputs are prime ministers,presidents, Chief of army staff, chief justice, ministers, advisors, generals,they are in the army and police, but, on the other hand you are saying they sell samosas and pakoras.This shows some are well off and others are not.Some sayeds do menial jobs.They work in grocery shops,butcher shops snd even shoe shops.But, people still address them as Shah sahib,Shah sahib,Shah ji, shah ji.some Rajputs may be working as menials, but people still address them as raja sahib, Raja sahib,Rana sahib, Rana sahib.They might not be well off but Rajputs and Sayeds still get respect.some Pathans may be doing menial jobs but people still respect them and call them Khan sahib,Khan sahib.Even if a Rajput becomes a beggar people will still respect him and say that a raja has become a beggar but if a low caste person becomes prime minister people will disrespect him by saying that a low caste persom has become prime minister.
:In the quran God says"God is the owner of countries,he gives countries to whom he wills and takes away countries from whom he wills,he gives honour to whom he wills and gives dishonour to whom he wills".I am thankfull to God for giving me honour by making me a Rajput,for making me high caste.Thank you God.
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#486
Aug 2, 2012
 
Before muslim invaders came to the Indian sub-continent, Rajputs were masters of the Indian-subcontinent.Rajputs were ruling in afghanistan, Pakistan,India and Bangladesh.Rajputs were kings and landlords.all the lands belonged to Rajputs.Indian sub-continent was like a large multinational company owned and run by Rajputs.Every Rajput was either a king or a landlord.Rajputs used to provide employment to every one.Every body used to work for Rajputs.Rajput kingdoms were welfare states.Every body was well looked after.There was lot of prosperity.There was no poverty.people were very happy under Rajput hukumat.Rajputs were best administrators, best rulers and best hukamran.

:Mohammad bin Kasim robbed Rajputs,Mahmood Ghaznavi robbed Rajputs,Ghori robbed Rajputs,Khilgis robbed Rajputs,Al tamash robbed Rajputs,Tagluqs robbed Rajputs,Taimoor robbed Rajputs,Lodhis robbed Rajputs,Mughals robbed Rajputs.Every body robbed Rajputs except the British.When the British came rajputs had lost every thing.Rajputs are not robbers and theives, other people are robbers and theives.Rajputs are mazloom.
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Aug 2, 2012
 
Thank you God wrote:
Mr. fact, on the one hand you are saying Rajputs are prime ministers,presidents, Chief of army staff, chief justice, ministers, advisors, generals,they are in the army and police, but, on the other hand you are saying they sell samosas and pakoras..........
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idiot
when did I write this???

I never write about neither rajput nor syed nor any other community

I never write on subject like this

did i ever write politic , or proffession of people?????

before comment, please read my comment

I never refer any community, about their present condiont or so on

I only concentrate about the kashmir issue and some time anchestry of pakistani people, but never write about the subject like this.

again,
when you comment refering someone
please, read his comment
Nazir

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Aug 2, 2012
 
Fact wrote:
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lol
idiot
when did I write this???
I never write about neither rajput nor syed nor any other community
I never write on subject like this
did i ever write politic , or proffession of people?????
before comment, please read my comment
I never refer any community, about their present condiont or so on
I only concentrate about the kashmir issue and some time anchestry of pakistani people, but never write about the subject like this.
again,
when you comment refering someone tera roza kaise jaray hai?
please, read his comment
tera roza kaise jaray hai?
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Aug 2, 2012
 
Arabs and Turks were very shrewd. They knew that two tribes -Rajputs and Jats are very strong in north India and that they are the main obstacles in their way. So in order to weaken these two communities in their conquered areas, they started converting them mostly with force and some times with the help of some fraud sufis and pirs. This way they divided us in two warring communities.
Izzat ki qurbani

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Aug 3, 2012
 
::Conditions of Jodha Behan,s Marriage.

:1.Jodha will not convert to Islam.
:2.Jodha,s son will become the next emperor of India.
:3.Jodha will have a Hindu mandir in the muslim palace.
:4.Jodha will be allowed to worship her Hindu devis and devtas in the muslim palace.
:5.Hindu festivals will be celebrated in the muslim palace.
:6.Jizia will be abolished.(Jizia is a slavery tax, imposed on non-muslims to remind them that they are slaves of muslims.It is a form of humiliation).
:7.Hindus will be allowed to worship according to their religion, openly.
:8.Yatra tax will be abolished.
:9.Hindus will be allowed to celebrate their Hindu festivals, openly.
:10.Hindus will not be treated as second class citizens.
:11.Hindu mandirs will not be demolished.
:12.jodha behan,s father had the option to convert to save his kingdom, but he sacrificed his honour for the protection of Hindus and Hindu dharam.
:all Hindus benefitted from this alliance.Rajputon ne sadiyon tak des aur dharam ki khatir jan, mal aur izzat abroo ki qurbanian deen,par log in qurbanion ko appreciate nahi karte.jodha behan ki shadi tak 800 sau saal se Hindu Musalmanon ke ghulam chale aa rahe thae.iss shadi se hinduon ko bahut si azadian mileen aur Hinduon ko first class citizen ka darja mila.

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