Pakistan Army Claims More Advances in Offensive

GlobeSon wrote:

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Tayyab:
any Indian would get your point.
Do not try to equate India and Pak though. India, as a nation, has been pretty focused at its own development, growth, and strengthing its social/political systems. The only time we think of Pak is when a bunch of Pakistani terrorists infilterate into India and kill innocent civilians.
I do not criticise Pak for the problems which are inherent to most 3rd world countries.
What i strongly condemn and highlight is the policy of Pak govt/army/ISI of sponsoring, training, exporting jihadi terrorists - that has backfired on common pak people.
I criticize the Pak policy instituted by Ge.Zia of "bleeding India by a thousand cuts"!
I hope you get my point.

Ok,I am asking you some questions?
please go accordingly
1. who trained mukti bahnee in 1971?

2. who has got camps in the form of consulate in qandhaar & in kabul & what are they doing there?
3. who gives funding to BLA?


i know ISI got camps too & they are/were sponsoring many things but i told you before the intelligence agencies whether they are basically intelligence based or covert action based or both they only succeeded when they have support among the public or some sympathies...
you give me the reference of gen Zia , leaders of both countries give such statements to force common man of both sides to go against each other,you remember the statement of late indraa Gandhi too these all things are rubbish, my point is that if you give your public equal rights(pak & india) they will never go against you by helping those external agencies, its only the matter of time, because of the public support in your area ISI & RAW succeed they can't do a single thing in each other terror tries without the support of public.
Mr. Glob, establishment always wanted to involve his public in these matters to gain votes if you propagate how you can prosper your country by promoting equal rights among man & build up your economy through grass root level which can really change the situation of common man that's how you solve these problems.
All these problems rise up just because of these main things missing out from both societies if both of you think that ISI & RAW are involved in these matters the only way to stop them is this.
hope you think about some of these aspects too.

BEIJING: The first state of the art JF-17 Thunder fighter plane produced in Kamra will roll out by the end of this month.This was stated by Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Pakistan Air force in an interview on Saturday.
"This will start a new era in Pak-China relationship, and aviation industry", said CAS while talking to APP. Rao Qamar Suleman is currently here to attend the 60th anniversary of founding of PLAAF. "Both China as well as PAF are attaching lot of importance to this project", CAS Rao Qamar said.

FINELINE wrote:

BEIJING: The first state of the art JF-17 Thunder fighter plane produced in Kamra will roll out by the end of this month.This was stated by Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Pakistan Air force in an interview on Saturday.
"This will start a new era in Pak-China relationship, and aviation industry", said CAS while talking to APP. Rao Qamar Suleman is currently here to attend the 60th anniversary of founding of PLAAF. "Both China as well as PAF are attaching lot of importance to this project", CAS Rao Qamar said.

sorry bro. but what benefit will common man get from this combat aircraft?
secondly if you do'nt mind what is mean by Taliban hunter?

Pak army claims of advances are as real as Pak landing on moon in near future.

Problem is that Pak army has been forced to go to tribal areas because Obama turned off dollar tap to generals and govenrment mafia. Without money to satisfy their greed they panic and send soldiers to tribal areas without plan. The Taliban melted away and some came into major cities. When dust settles Taliban will bleed army and then you will see Pak soldiers deserting in thousands. Without money and risk of being killed Pak soldier will soon come back to village to plough field. But when desert is created in Punjab they will become camel herders/nomads.

FINELINE wrote:

BEIJING: The first state of the art JF-17 Thunder fighter plane produced in Kamra will roll out by the end of this month.This was stated by Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Pakistan Air force in an interview on Saturday.
"This will start a new era in Pak-China relationship, and aviation industry", said CAS while talking to APP. Rao Qamar Suleman is currently here to attend the 60th anniversary of founding of PLAAF. "Both China as well as PAF are attaching lot of importance to this project", CAS Rao Qamar said.

Made in China, assembled in Pakistan.

Pak army claims of advances are as real as Pak landing on moon in near future.

Problem is that Pak army has been forced to go to tribal areas because Obama turned off dollar tap to generals and government mafia. Without money to satisfy their greed they panic and send soldiers to tribal areas without plan. The Taliban melted away and some came into major cities. When dust settles Taliban will bleed army and then you will see Pak soldiers deserting in thousands. Without money and risk of being killed Pak soldier will soon come back to village to plough field. But when desert is created in Punjab they will become camel herders/nomads.

Pak army claims of advances are as real as Pak landing on moon in near future.

Problem is that Pak army has been forced to go to tribal areas because Obama turned off dollar tap to generals and government mafia. Without money to satisfy their greed they panic and send soldiers to tribal areas without plan. The Taliban melted away and some came into major cities. When dust settles Taliban will bleed army and then you will see Pak soldiers deserting in thousands. Without money and risk of being killed Pak soldier will soon come back to village to plough field. But when desert is created in Punjab they will become camel herder/nomad.

tayyab manzoor wrote:

<quoted text>sorry bro. but what benefit will common man get from this combat aircraft?
secondly if you do'nt mind what is mean by Taliban hunter?

common paki will benefit greatly by getting bombed by this aircraft, rather than by US drones.

ProfessorKISA1 wrote:

Pak army claims of advances are as real as Pak landing on moon in near future.
Problem is that Pak army has been forced to go to tribal areas because Obama turned off dollar tap to generals and government mafia. Without money to satisfy their greed they panic and send soldiers to tribal areas without plan. The Taliban melted away and some came into major cities. When dust settles Taliban will bleed army and then you will see Pak soldiers deserting in thousands. Without money and risk of being killed Pak soldier will soon come back to village to plough field. But when desert is created in Punjab they will become camel herders/nomads.

That's very good analysis.

The only people claiming victory are the pakis settled in far off lands who hardly care for the innocents who are getting killed in the fake 'war on terror.

tayyab manzoor wrote:

<quoted text>Ok,I am asking you some questions?
please go accordingly

1. who trained mukti bahnee in 1971?
2. who has got camps in the form of consulate in qandhaar & in kabul & what are they doing there?
3. who gives funding to BLA?

i know ISI got camps too & they are/were sponsoring many things but i told you before the intelligence agencies whether they are basically intelligence based or covert action based or both they only succeeded when they have support among the public or some sympathies...
you give me the reference of gen Zia , leaders of both countries give such statements to force common man of both sides to go against each other,you remember the statement of late indraa Gandhi too these all things are rubbish, my point is that if you give your public equal rights(pak & india) they will never go against you by helping those external agencies, its only the matter of time, because of the public support in your area ISI & RAW succeed they can't do a single thing in each other terror tries without the support of public.
Mr. Glob, establishment always wanted to involve his public in these matters to gain votes if you propagate how you can prosper your country by promoting equal rights among man & build up your economy through grass root level which can really change the situation of common man that's how you solve these problems.
All these problems rise up just because of these main things missing out from both societies if both of you think that ISI & RAW are involved in these matters the only way to stop them is this.
hope you think about some of these aspects too.

Let me give you some pointed answers:

1) Indian agencies trained Mukti Vahini in 1971 and supported them all through the Bangladesh liberation. And that was rightfully justified. Mukti Vahini was not a terrorist organisation and did not kill innocent civilians - while the Paki ISI and army committed the genocide of 2.5 million bangladeshis.

2) India has consulates in afghanistan and hundred other countries. Stop overreacting.

As a major player in the asian geopolitics, India is committed to help afghanistan build itself. And that commitment is more than Pak's support to Taliban for destroying afghanistan and toppling its govt.

3) BLA funding...is only allegation at the moment.
Even if there is an Indian hand, that is only a reaction to Pak's infilteration of terrorists into kashmir for the last 25 yrs.

tayyab manzoor wrote:

<quoted text>sorry bro. but what benefit will common man get from this combat aircraft?
secondly if you do'nt mind what is mean by Taliban hunter?

He is only sharing some 'achievements' that can be a matter of pride to common pakis (while they get blasted by homegrown terrorists everyday!)

GlobeSon wrote:

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He is only sharing some 'achievements' that can be a matter of pride to common pakis (while they get blasted by homegrown terrorists everyday!)

Globeshit says he's having fun
Bastard calls himself Globeson
Globesit, my dear sweet Paks
Is being kicked in every talks

Chewed and fcuked his as is yes
Bleeding ass he does possess
Donkeys, dogs they all spit
On the Globeshit full of shit

Globeshit says his raji baji
She'll get Pak lull,she's raji
Globeshit is that kanjar dalla
Dalla ban ke ho gia jhalla

Pimpi dalla kanjar Globeshit
Gets from monkey spits N hit
Monkey throws on him the stones
Globeshit cries,Globeshit moans

Globeshit ass got beaten by Paks
Globeshit got all shit for talks
Don't believe a word he says
Globeshit pimps in dark N days

Globeshit dalla's randi baji
Bastard dances,says she's raji
Dalla pimps her got the joy
Says give money N enjoy

tayyab manzoor wrote:

<quoted text>sorry bro. but what benefit will common man get from this combat aircraft?
secondly if you do'nt mind what is mean by Taliban hunter?

I do understand what you are getting at. I have always stressed that more should be spend on non-military adventures for the betterment for the Pakistani people.

I also believe we do need better aircraft to protect our boundaries, and if these aircraft are made in Pakistan, than all the better.

Earlier i had a avatar of a Pakistani tank, and i put the title Taliban Hunter in reference to the Pak army going into Waziristan.

FINELINE...

ProfessorKISA1 wrote:

Pak army claims of advances are as real as Pak landing on moon in near future.
Problem is that Pak army has been forced to go to tribal areas because Obama turned off dollar tap to generals and government mafia. Without money to satisfy their greed they panic and send soldiers to tribal areas without plan. The Taliban melted away and some came into major cities. When dust settles Taliban will bleed army and then you will see Pak soldiers deserting in thousands. Without money and risk of being killed Pak soldier will soon come back to village to plough field. But when desert is created in Punjab they will become camel herder/nomad.

The Dollars from the Kind United States Taxpayer is now On, and it won't run out until the People in the United States remind their Corrupt Politicians that front for a U.S. Dictatorship that enough is enough already.

GlobeSon wrote:

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Let me give you some pointed answers:
1) Indian agencies trained Mukti Vahini in 1971 and supported them all through the Bangladesh liberation. And that was rightfully justified. Mukti Vahini was not a terrorist organisation and did not kill innocent civilians - while the Paki ISI and army committed the genocide of 2.5 million bangladeshis.
2) India has consulates in afghanistan and hundred other countries. Stop overreacting.
As a major player in the asian geopolitics, India is committed to help afghanistan build itself. And that commitment is more than Pak's support to Taliban for destroying afghanistan and toppling its govt.
3) BLA funding...is only allegation at the moment.
Even if there is an Indian hand, that is only a reaction to Pak's infilteration of terrorists into kashmir for the last 25 yrs.

lolz, well this is the problem Mr. Glob son when you r backing up your ill deeds, you said its a libration & forget the killings of beharies & non bangalies in that , sorry i m not backing up pakis but both of u understand that you both trained people against each other whether it is for liberation, so thats how if you trained them & give a fair certificate to them so what about kashmir, Ulfa , so pakis will also give them certificate like you give to mukti. because they are fighting for their freedom too.
so refusal(BLA,afghanistan) is a right choice to see your own self as sinless ....hmmm that's good to me, indians & pakis never shall not change.

FINELINE wrote:

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I do understand what you are getting at. I have always stressed that more should be spend on non-military adventures for the betterment for the Pakistani people.
I also believe we do need better aircraft to protect our boundaries, and if these aircraft are made in Pakistan, than all the better.
Earlier i had a avatar of a Pakistani tank, and i put the title Taliban Hunter in reference to the Pak army going into Waziristan.
FINELINE...

sorry, but killing of innocent pakhtun's is a good perspective for you.

KafirInfidel wrote:

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How many Israelis and Jews were killed during the Mumbai 26/11 attacks? Desperate cowardly Pakis could not fight in the open so they targeted civilians and call themselves brave and hiding behind all kinds of denials. Citizens of many countries were killed by Pakistani state sponsored terrorists. Do you think that those countries will forget?

Indian Propaganda Juggernaut Motto...... Always Blame Pakistan.....

5 Points That Destroy India's Latest Fairytale........

In 1988......Indian Navy and commandos took only 24 hours to storm Mamoon Abdul Quyum's palace in the Maldives when it was taken over by rebels and eliminated the rebels within another 24 hours.......

But in Mumbai....... India took 60 hours to eliminate 10 terrorists equipped only with KKs....... The entire DRAMA seems to be well scripted like Bollywood/Hollywood movies....... On one side they blame ISI for planning...... executing the whole episode and on the other hand they blame ISI for committing silly mistakes and leaving behind incriminating evidence to be picked up by the Indian intelligence so it could find easy links to Karachi/Pakistan........

Some other India lies include:........

Indians failed to detect movement of the alleged merchant ship from Karachi and then its off loading of passengers at high sea......

These 10 daredevils traveled in rubber dinghies up to Bombay shores unnoticed....... Was the Indian coastal defense system asleep........??

The terrorists waded through the marshes of Bombay coastline..... reached the road network...... hijacked police vehicles..... divided themselves in 3 groups and then headed for their targets in the posh localities of Bombay...... and EVERYTHING GOES UNNOTICED.......

Like precision guided missiles these terrorists reach their targets and take over heavily guarded two 5-star hotels..... dodging the security system of the entire city of Bombay and the internal security system of these 5-star hotels and the Jewish center also........

They fight it out with Indian commandos for 3 days and all but one is killed....... The Indians claim that he is ISI sponsored....... If we believe the Indian storyline....... it defies logic...... How can a professional spy agency like ISI commit the following mistakes:.......

Sailing the terrorist off from Karachi...... Why not Dubai....... Chittagong or Eden for better deception.........?

Credit cards of Pakistani origin in their pockets....... Do the suicide bombers carry the IDs in their pockets........?

Their Pakistani Punjabi ascent........ The first lesson given to intelligence operators is to adapt to local environments........ If such an operation was planned by Pakistan and ISI....... the operatives would have known that they would have to communicate/ negotiate with the hostages and others and hence would have concealed this giveaway sign.........

I leave to the readers to decide if Indian lies are white or black.......

India must apologize to its people and the entire world that the Terrorism Drama staged by its Intelligence Agencies and Hindu terrorist fanatic parties B.J.P and R.S.S went terribly wrong and that it will dismantle all Indian State Terrorism Infrastructure..........

Paki boy.........

tayyab manzoor wrote:

<quoted text>sorry, but killing of innocent pakhtun's is a good perspective for you.

This excuse has always been used when terrorists are dealt with.
No one attentionally attacks innocent civilians even though some will be unfortunately be harmed in the crossfire.

No longer are the Pakistani people going to accept these type of excuses, when the Taliban does not hesitate in killing children and woman. Most Pakistani's will agree with me.
FINELINE...

FINELINE wrote:

FINELINE...

what is it mean by terrorist?hmm.. who is only fighting against Pakistan or US,this is a very good definition in these days,how many innocent people (pak) army killed including men & children & perhapes women too during the start of wazirstaan operation perhapes more than what your self made suiciders killed, no one intentionally killed innocents or common man,it is their aim which make them affected by this,if you see most of the bombings, they were directly against army or law inforcement agencies why because u started it first in 2002-3 this is a joint courtesy of pakis & their false god US,& most pakis will agree to u becoz they r nationalist & they forget that how their agencies backup some pro. nationalist millitants as they were doing jehaad in kashmir.
hope u do'nt mind & might underastand my points.

Paki Munda wrote:

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Indian Propaganda Juggernaut Motto...... Always Blame ..........
Paki boy.........

dear paki boy,
you havew sent this particular post in different thread. i want to answer you. but please choose a thread where i should post my answer.