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Hooray! Americans have voted unanimously in favor of NOT banning handguns! Soon you will all shoot yourselves dead, and leave the rest of the world in peace. Thank-you :-)
What a ridiculous claim. Every citizen of Switzerland owns a gun, and yet they have the lowest crime rate and have yet to 'shoot themselves dead'. And they have managed to 'leave the rest of the world in peace'. hummm.... makes you think about it more doesn't it?? Ever wonder why Hitler never wanted to invade them like he did the rest? Let me clue you in, its because every citizen was armed. Are you willing to be left defenseless while power hungry mongrels like Hitler invade YOUR home? If guns were banned in the US then you might as well stamp 'victim here' on every forehead. Are you willing to kill than be killed? Are you willing to protect your family? How do you expect to protect yourself and those you love with out a gun when every criminal out there has one?

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<REDACTED quote>I see the point went right over yuor head.
The military has voted republican ALWAYS...BUT...NOW, the demographic is CHANGING!
The center said that by the end of August 2008, Obama had received more money from military donors with overseas addresses --$74,650 compared with $16,600 for McCain -- as well as from employees of the uniformed branches:$340,400 compared with $321,500.
It is a factor that seemed clear Wednesday in east Baghdad, where six of seven soldiers at a base interviewed at random said they backed Obama.
OUCH!
The tides are turing...a YOUNGER, more educated military will accomplish the switch before long:)
MOSTLY, if the military dislikes Obama, then why are they supporting HIMN more than any other democrat before?
Wow, that’s impressive in “August 2008, Obama had received more money from military donors with overseas addresses…”

Apparently the “the demographic is CHANGING!” again;

THAT WAS THEN THIS IS NOW:
USNews wrote:
Ron Paul's campaign has hit a gold mine of support — active-duty military.

Paul's 2012 campaign says their team's received more campaign donations from active-duty military than all of the other presidential candidates, including Barack Obama, combined.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-w...
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WASHINGTON, D.C.— Current and former service members staged a rally outside the White House today in support of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.

Several hundred troops and their supporters attended the event. The veterans were men and women, young and old, some in uniform and some in plain clothes.

Ron Paul shares an unusually high percentage of supporters in the military compared to the other candidates and it shows in his campaign funding. The Center for Responsible Politics reports the candidate touted more than $95,000 between September 2011 and January in individual donations from current and former members of the military, higher than any other candidate. Obama comes in second at roughly $72,000.

Paul raised $150,000 in the fourth quarter alone from active-duty military.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/...

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Wow, that’s impressive in “August 2008, Obama had received more money from military donors with overseas addresses…”

Apparently the “the demographic is CHANGING!” again;

THAT WAS THEN THIS IS NOW:
USNews wrote:
Ron Paul's campaign has hit a gold mine of support — active-duty military.

Paul's 2012 campaign says their team's received more campaign donations from active-duty military than all of the other presidential candidates, including Barack Obama, combined.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-w...
ABCNews wrote:
WASHINGTON, D.C.— Current and former service members staged a rally outside the White House today in support of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.

Several hundred troops and their supporters attended the event. The veterans were men and women, young and old, some in uniform and some in plain clothes.

Ron Paul shares an unusually high percentage of supporters in the military compared to the other candidates and it shows in his campaign funding. The Center for Responsible Politics reports the candidate touted more than $95,000 between September 2011 and January in individual donations from current and former members of the military, higher than any other candidate. Obama comes in second at roughly $72,000.

Paul raised $150,000 in the fourth quarter alone from active-duty military.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/...
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
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The center said that by the end of August 2008, Obama had received more money from military donors with overseas addresses --
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
<REDACTED quote>Pay attention Moose:
NO....the numbers are AFTER the election!
HUH?
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
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OBVIOUSLY intelligence isn't your strong suit...lol
Let me take this Sloooow for you:
He promised the first thing he is gonna do is leave is pull troops from Iraq!
He started the process on the FIRST DAY of office...
And he did it too, pretty darned close to the date President Bush agreed it should be done; BACK IN NOVEMBER 17, 2008!

THAT IS IF YOU CAN BELIEVE DOCUMENTS FOUND ON THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT’S OWN STATE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE:

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/1...

Yeah, Just ANOTHER Case Of Someone Else Doing Something and President Obama Trying To Take Credit For It, in my opinion ~

Fortunately some of us don't wear blinders, ignore the facts, or blindly follow the leader like good little "O"-sheeple.

The Plan was called the: "Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq".

And as I said was SIGNED; November 17, 2008.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/1...

I have been you ranting and raving for pages now and have been attempting to ignore most of your posts but I do have a question that just screams to be answered: Where the hell do you get your information BUNNY -

From the voices in your head?

You often make statements and claims that are completely false, seem to cherry pick your facts with the greatest of care, and never or rarely offer any type of supportive evidence or reference for most of your claims you make.

Sorry I just couldn't ignore these things any longer… I had to have a rant of my own.

‘But I feel much better now’~

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Duplicate post, my apologies.

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Oh yeah... and "OUCHIE!"
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Dakota1 wrote:
<quoted text>What a ridiculous claim. Every citizen of Switzerland owns a gun, and yet they have the lowest crime rate and have yet to 'shoot themselves dead'. And they have managed to 'leave the rest of the world in peace'. hummm.... makes you think about it more doesn't it?? Ever wonder why Hitler never wanted to invade them like he did the rest? Let me clue you in, its because every citizen was armed. Are you willing to be left defenseless while power hungry mongrels like Hitler invade YOUR home? If guns were banned in the US then you might as well stamp 'victim here' on every forehead. Are you willing to kill than be killed? Are you willing to protect your family? How do you expect to protect yourself and those you love with out a gun when every criminal out there has one?
Switzerland conforms to the #guns vs #deaths correlation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_p...

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Armed Veteran wrote:
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A whole 6 out of 7 seven soldiers, huh?? And in Baghdad no less. LMAO! I thought you said we didn't have anymore soldiers in Iraq. WTF?
And as much as you try to spin this, the increase in support of the military for the Democrat, slim as it may be, is irrelevant. Because as YOUR LINK also stated, that even with an increase in Democrat support, the majority of the military still votes Republican.
Great catch !

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Don-N-Kansas wrote:
Wow, that’s impressive in “August 2008, Obama had received more money from military donors with overseas addresses…”
Apparently the “the demographic is CHANGING!” again;
THAT WAS THEN THIS IS NOW:
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http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-w...
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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/...
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HUH?
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And he did it too, pretty darned close to the date President Bush agreed it should be done; BACK IN NOVEMBER 17, 2008!
THAT IS IF YOU CAN BELIEVE DOCUMENTS FOUND ON THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT’S OWN STATE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE:
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/1...
Yeah, Just ANOTHER Case Of Someone Else Doing Something and President Obama Trying To Take Credit For It, in my opinion ~
Fortunately some of us don't wear blinders, ignore the facts, or blindly follow the leader like good little "O"-sheeple.
The Plan was called the: "Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq".
And as I said was SIGNED; November 17, 2008.
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/1...
I have been you ranting and raving for pages now and have been attempting to ignore most of your posts but I do have a question that just screams to be answered: Where the hell do you get your information BUNNY -
From the voices in your head?
You often make statements and claims that are completely false, seem to cherry pick your facts with the greatest of care, and never or rarely offer any type of supportive evidence or reference for most of your claims you make.
Sorry I just couldn't ignore these things any longer… I had to have a rant of my own.
‘But I feel much better now’~
Me too.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

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Dakota1 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know about in NC, but I've never heard of a pool inspector inspecting privately owned pools anywhere that I have lived.
I don't know about "pool inspectors" but in some states "building inspectors" do inspect and at this includes fencing and alarms on doors leading to the pool.

Big Brother is getting stronger and they take on the citizen one at a time to bring full weight to bear.
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Veritas wrote:
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The only one 'coming around' is yourself!
QUESTION: What is the very essence of INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY?
Answer: SELF-DETERMINATION, or more directly: FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
You would seek to deprive everyone of that choice by way of YOUR political bent.
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Dream away,

No thinking person is ever going to "come around" to buying a gun

You can legally buy a gun
but it is our choice to
question your motives and
point out your psychological insecurity
or latent agressiveness..

You don't have to defend yourselves either....

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Him wrote:
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Switzerland conforms to the #guns vs #deaths correlation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_p...
Hato tell you this but wikipedia is not a credible source. For all I know you put that info in wiki yourself. Any one could. Try again.
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Dakota1 wrote:
<quoted text>What a ridiculous claim. Every citizen of Switzerland owns a gun, and yet they have the lowest crime rate and have yet to 'shoot themselves dead'. And they have managed to 'leave the rest of the world in peace'. hummm.... makes you think about it more doesn't it?? Ever wonder why Hitler never wanted to invade them like he did the rest? Let me clue you in, its because every citizen was armed. Are you willing to be left defenseless while power hungry mongrels like Hitler invade YOUR home? If guns were banned in the US then you might as well stamp 'victim here' on every forehead. Are you willing to kill than be killed? Are you willing to protect your family? How do you expect to protect yourself and those you love with out a gun when every criminal out there has one?
What twisted, ridiculous, American-style logic...The people of Switzerland may have a lot of guns, but it is the LUNATICS like you Americans that are blazing away at each other...So, I will say it once more; please continue to plug away at each other and reduce the population of war-mongering, gun-crazy, narcissistic fruit loop Americans, so that the world may live a more peaceful existence without you redneck wannabe-the-police-of-the-worl d sticking your noses into everything..!

“Facts exist, even when ignored”

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Dakota1 wrote:
<quoted text>Hato tell you this but wikipedia is not a credible source. For all I know you put that info in wiki yourself. Any one could. Try again.
He can't even read his own source material. Switzerland is 4th in Guns Per capita, but 20th in firearm-related deaths...
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Roadie wrote:
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He can't even read his own source material. Switzerland is 4th in Guns Per capita, but 20th in firearm-related deaths...
Who cares? It's all you yanks blasting away at each other indiscriminately that is in question...

But, frankly, pray continue; a few thousand less gun-toting socio-paths in the world is always good...

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Johnny wrote:
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What twisted, ridiculous, American-style logic...The people of Switzerland may have a lot of guns, but it is the LUNATICS like you Americans that are blazing away at each other...So, I will say it once more; please continue to plug away at each other and reduce the population of war-mongering, gun-crazy, narcissistic fruit loop Americans, so that the world may live a more peaceful existence without you redneck wannabe-the-police-of-the-worl d sticking your noses into everything..!
Where is the "logic" in your post? I see opinion, false assumption, hyperbole, but no facts, statistics, or.. logic.

Let me show YOU some facts..
http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia...

Assault victims Aus 2.4% US 1.2%
Aus ranked 4th. 100% more than United States which is Ranked 11th.

Rape victims Aus 1% Us 0.4%
Aus. Ranked 5th. 150% more than United States US Ranked 13th.

Suicide rates in ages 25-34 Aus 18.7 per 100,000 people Us 15.3 per 100,000 people
Aus Ranked 7th. 22% more than United States US Ranked 10th.

Total crime victims Aus 30.1% Us 21.1%
Aus Ranked 1st. 43% more than United States US Ranked 15th.



Hmm, not exactly a crime free ShangiLa you got there, eh mate?

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Cletis wrote:
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Who cares? It's all you yanks blasting away at each other indiscriminately that is in question...
But, frankly, pray continue; a few thousand less gun-toting socio-paths in the world is always good...
See my other post. You Ozzies are doing just fine raping and pillaging without guns..

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Johnny wrote:
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What twisted, ridiculous, American-style logic...The people of Switzerland may have a lot of guns, but it is the LUNATICS like you Americans that are blazing away at each other...So, I will say it once more; please continue to plug away at each other and reduce the population of war-mongering, gun-crazy, narcissistic fruit loop Americans, so that the world may live a more peaceful existence without you redneck wannabe-the-police-of-the-worl d sticking your noses into everything..!
Funny how many people have had many guns for a very long time and never once have we gone 'blazing away' at each other. I don't care about 'policing the world'. I just want the option to protect my self and my family. You sound a little jealous that you don't have that freedom. Do you have a good idea to keep guns out of the criminals hands?
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Where is the "logic" in your post? I see opinion, false assumption, hyperbole, but no facts, statistics, or.. logic.
Let me show YOU some facts..
http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia...
Assault victims Aus 2.4% US 1.2%
Aus ranked 4th. 100% more than United States which is Ranked 11th.
Rape victims Aus 1% Us 0.4%
Aus. Ranked 5th. 150% more than United States US Ranked 13th.
Suicide rates in ages 25-34 Aus 18.7 per 100,000 people Us 15.3 per 100,000 people
Aus Ranked 7th. 22% more than United States US Ranked 10th.
Total crime victims Aus 30.1% Us 21.1%
Aus Ranked 1st. 43% more than United States US Ranked 15th.
Hmm, not exactly a crime free ShangiLa you got there, eh mate?
Awww, did you wook all that up by your widdle self? What a CLEVER widdle boy you are..!

No, roadie, I really don't care what stupid statistics you trot out; I've decided that I like you idiot Americans blasting away at each other. It keeps you occupied and away from trying to destroy the lives of others around the world who have an issue with your idiotic "Ideals" and also - as you shoot each other - whittles away at the number of gun-toting socio-paths in the world...So you keep at it old son...:-)
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Roadie wrote:
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See my other post. You Ozzies are doing just fine raping and pillaging without guns..
Whatever, you gun-toting redneck nut-job; just you keep fighting for your rights and shooting indiscriminately. It's all fine with me :-) I'm not there, and there's less of you everyday...
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Roadie wrote:
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He can't even read his own source material. Switzerland is 4th in Guns Per capita, but 20th in firearm-related deaths...
You need to compare OECD countries to be able to understand the source materials. Otherwise you are could put yourself on a par with say Somalia or Zimbabwe.

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