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Tonga's Nukuleka, the birth place of Polynesia

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Nov 5, 2009
 
Masina wrote:
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Ta'eteletefe...ALU HOKA'I ange tungaiku homou kuli....OOOOPS!
I think you did that already!! HAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA!
ChooooooooooHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Suddup you kulifooker. LOLZ!
LOL 'io 'oku pehe pe tamaiki ia mei he motu si'i!?? kou pehe 'e au koe kuli 'oku 'ai 'o ta'o pea kai..takoee 'oku toe fk'aonga'i pe ia 'e he kau honolulu ki he fakalielia?? HA HA HA me'a malohi tama ho konga ha'amoa mahina! tokanga'i na'a toe ua ni hake pe ha fo'i babymirracle 'e taha LMAO
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#851
Nov 5, 2009
 
Masina wrote:
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Telepi...Telepi...Telepi
Where is da mata'i ngeli?
The one name Telekaki?
He likes to wear the mahi
but is only a mulisisiii!
Please Leave your doggies and horseys alone
and go play with your own bone....LOL!ROTFL!
you el stupido!
LMAO the last time i heard about this kind of teasing was when i was in primary school ha ha ha..'ai fklelei ho'o fkmatalili moe fkveli 'akau!..hange ho'o lau mai 'au ha taulau ha kau kotaali..'ai ke ngali kuo fihitu'u ho fulu ho lalomanu masina!..uanoa ha'ane namu hohongo 'elo 'elo he ngaahi 'aho 'afu koeni e! HA HA HA *toe fie pehe pe peake toe ha'u pe:)*

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#852
Nov 5, 2009
 
Telekaki wrote:
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LMAO the last time i heard about this kind of teasing was when i was in primary school ha ha ha..'ai fklelei ho'o fkmatalili moe fkveli 'akau!..hange ho'o lau mai 'au ha taulau ha kau kotaali..'ai ke ngali kuo fihitu'u ho fulu ho lalomanu masina!..uanoa ha'ane namu hohongo 'elo 'elo he ngaahi 'aho 'afu koeni e! HA HA HA *toe fie pehe pe peake toe ha'u pe:)*
Alu ia e fkveli lou ga'au...HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Hehehe...EXACTLY...treat your dumbarse like the little primary kota shiet that you are...LOL! Alu ia e koe ai gi ou kae se kele, o mea ga e fafaga ai e ou matua oe. hehehe!
LOL...is yo mada,your fada,sistah,bruddah your fanga kui eroz and your whole kolokaita'e....ROTFL!!
I no worry about a fing....I come back to feed you more ta'e, since you like eating that everyday. LOL!
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Nov 6, 2009
 
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LMAO the last time i heard about this kind of teasing was when i was in primary school ha ha ha..'ai fklelei ho'o fkmatalili moe fkveli 'akau!..hange ho'o lau mai 'au ha taulau ha kau kotaali..'ai ke ngali kuo fihitu'u ho fulu ho lalomanu masina!..uanoa ha'ane namu hohongo 'elo 'elo he ngaahi 'aho 'afu koeni e! HA HA HA *toe fie pehe pe peake toe ha'u pe:)*
Hey convict, it's too bad you're still stuck in primary grade you worthless piece of cumstain!!! Instead of picking on my sister in here, go watch your own sisters and mummy then beat up on your tinny bone to give you your thrills... HAHAHA LOL

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Nov 6, 2009
 
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Hey convict, it's too bad you're still stuck in primary grade you worthless piece of cumstain!!! Instead of picking on my sister in here, go watch your own sisters and mummy then beat up on your tinny bone to give you your thrills... HAHAHA LOL
LOL! Tell him like it is bruddah! That one no can do...he is too much wanna hoka niu...with his smolo toy mele'i ...LOLZ. Telepipilo is just another tagapuku eroz....Hahahaha!
Fa'afetai brother!!
what the

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Nov 6, 2009
 
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LOL 'io 'oku pehe pe tamaiki ia mei he motu si'i!?? kou pehe 'e au koe kuli 'oku 'ai 'o ta'o pea kai..takoee 'oku toe fk'aonga'i pe ia 'e he kau honolulu ki he fakalielia?? HA HA HA me'a malohi tama ho konga ha'amoa mahina! tokanga'i na'a toe ua ni hake pe ha fo'i babymirracle 'e taha LMAO
Telekaki,'oku ou koe atu ke tuku e kape ki ha'amoa pea tuku e fakalanga ke, koeme'a ia e kauleka.

had a bad day? lau e tohitapu.

malo

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Nov 6, 2009
 
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Telekaki,'oku ou koe atu ke tuku e kape ki ha'amoa pea tuku e fakalanga ke, koeme'a ia e kauleka.
had a bad day? lau e tohitapu.
malo
What The...you remind me very much of one of my tongan "brothers" in another news forum.
Great advice....time for reflection...malo lava what the!
tama upolu

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Nov 6, 2009
 
Telekaki wrote:
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LMAO the last time i heard about this kind of teasing was when i was in primary school ha ha ha..'ai fklelei ho'o fkmatalili moe fkveli 'akau!..hange ho'o lau mai 'au ha taulau ha kau kotaali..'ai ke ngali kuo fihitu'u ho fulu ho lalomanu masina!..uanoa ha'ane namu hohongo 'elo 'elo he ngaahi 'aho 'afu koeni e! HA HA HA *toe fie pehe pe peake toe ha'u pe:)*
if you dont have anything useful to write about, then don't...you seem to be like a fly buzzing around, who needs to be slapped. you dick head...
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Nov 7, 2009
 
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Telekaki,'oku ou koe atu ke tuku e kape ki ha'amoa pea tuku e fakalanga ke, koeme'a ia e kauleka.
had a bad day? lau e tohitapu.
malo
Although I cannot understand what you wrote, I can sense your words of wisdom are appreciated as Masina stated. In that regard I do too. As somebody much smarter than me once said:

"When we forgive evil we do not excuse it, we do not tolerate it, we do not smother it. We look the evil full in the face, call it what it is, let its horror shock and stun and enrage us, and only then do we forgive it."

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#860
Nov 8, 2009
 
I am proud of Nukuleka. I think that this is one of the most beautiful place to visit. The main thing is.... Nukuleka is one of the village in Nuku'alofa Tongtapu. I am not from Nukuleka but I have been there and to be honest this is a nice place to visit.
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#861
Nov 8, 2009
 
Masina 'ikai ke mau kei lava'i 'emautolu mei he kangaroo 'ae ngaahi fo'i maau mei Honolulu.
what the

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Monday Nov 9
 
Ausie girl wrote:
I am proud of Nukuleka. I think that this is one of the most beautiful place to visit. The main thing is.... Nukuleka is one of the village in Nuku'alofa Tongtapu. I am not from Nukuleka but I have been there and to be honest this is a nice place to visit.
well I am from Nukuleka and believe me its tiny unspecticular but its ma home with a capital A.
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Monday Nov 9
 
SURF808 wrote:
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Although I cannot understand what you wrote, I can sense your words of wisdom are appreciated as Masina stated. In that regard I do too. As somebody much smarter than me once said:
"When we forgive evil we do not excuse it, we do not tolerate it, we do not smother it. We look the evil full in the face, call it what it is, let its horror shock and stun and enrage us, and only then do we forgive it."
Fa'afetai
We are one family and I hope we will encourage fun and sparkling, witty exchanges rather than personal attacks etc.

I am sure we will find a topic somewhere and take to it with love.

I have actually been thinking of the dances mentioned by Toa, its incredible.
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Monday Nov 9
 
ITS JUST FULL OF SHIT PEOPLE
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Monday Nov 9
 
1START wrote:
ITS JUST FULL OF SHIT PEOPLE
Why don't you 1START it off by crawling back to your sewer hole??? LOL
SURF808

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Monday Nov 9
 
what the wrote:
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We are one family and I hope we will encourage fun and sparkling, witty exchanges rather than personal attacks etc.
I am sure we will find a topic somewhere and take to it with love.
I have actually been thinking of the dances mentioned by Toa, its incredible.
Amen to that brother!!! I can only hope that constructive criticisms are not misconstrued as personal attacks, as I've tried humor as an icebreaker. Sometimes it works!!! I totally agree with your assessment however...

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Monday Nov 9
 
Ausie girl wrote:
Masina 'ikai ke mau kei lava'i 'emautolu mei he kangaroo 'ae ngaahi fo'i maau mei Honolulu.
Nah.....thats not true. lol
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Tuesday Nov 10
 
Kaliavakatau wrote:
Lol, the problem here is that folks like TOA and TAMA don't seem to know the difference between theories and myths. I never asked any of you to accept that Polynesians are descended from the Lapita people. It is a theory that I've come to accept based on the rational evidence presented from the scholarly community. I also accept what Drs. Malama Meleisea, Penelope Schoefl, Mahina, Tupuola and others claim in THEIR conclusion that Samoans and Tongans most likely are descendants of the Lapita people and Lapita migration. Everyone is entitled to their own personal beliefs. TOA's claim that I cling to the Lapita people theory because it puts Tonga in position to be the origin of Polynesian culture is silly and laughable. Question: did Tongans even make a fuss when some of Samoans have been clamoring for decades that Samoa is the cradle of Polynesia? For Tongans it is a silly argument. When archaeologists claimed that Nukuleka is the birthplace of Polynesia, most Tongans I know were mildly surprised, but it wasnt as if anyone needed to brag about it or go beating our chests all around the Pacific with a false chip on our shoulders. Oh well, I guess its a big difference between Tongan and Samoan cultures. As for the false claim that Ahoeitu is the son of a Tui Manua, lol, Ive seen many of the writings from missionaries when they arrived in Samoa and Tonga and took down the oral history of both islands, there is no mention of this myth anywhere. William Mariner, who spent time in Samoa, never mentions such a myth. LOL, there is a reason for such a myth perpetuated by some people, but I won't get into it. High Chief Tasi Olaf Anderson gave us a big clue as to why this happens in Samoa and I guess I'll leave it at that.(laughing)
You mention Tui Manu'a being the father of Tui Tonga wasnt mentioned anywhere are you sure you looked? As I am researching this I am coming across alot of old written info clarifying that original Kings of Tonga came from Eastern Samoa (Manu'a).

I came across many old books stating the original Kings of Tonga came from Manu'a (Eastern Samoa).

Here is 1 for you Kalia

Book
Dr. Lambert - A Doctor In Paradise

Dr. Lambert Wrote:

The Tubous (Tupou's) are the sole survivors of numerous native dynasties which the first white men found in the Pacific. The Tongan kingdom has outlived the greedy gobblings of western powers, and the people have kept their identity through every political crisis.

The Tubous (Tupou's) have a past longer than that of any other ruling dynasty to-day. Their kings first came from Eastern Samoa, probably from Ta'u, which seems to have been the cradle of great Polynesian kings.

Keep in mind Dr Lambert spent time with Tongan Royal Family members and learned alot of this from your people.

Let me explain Tau in Eastern Samoa for you.

Tau is in Manu'a Samoa. Tau is where Tagaloa first touched Earth. The first ever Tagaloa/Chiefly house was built on Tau called Fale Ula. The Fale Ula became the residents/palace of Tui Manu'a.

Manu'a Samoa is the Birthplace of many Polynesia Kings.
Kaliavakatau

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#869
Tuesday Nov 10
 
Lol, Its a waste of time to be arguing about something when you don't want to look at other evidence. Let's just drop it already. This is an old and stale topic. You've made up your mind and that's that, once the mind is closed, there isnt much to talk about. As I've said, I'd be glad to give the Tui Manua serious consideration, but the scholarly work out there is just too vague. You must understand that Polynesian oral history is always going to be dynamic, changing and unrealiable. Polynesian chiefs told different stories in ancient times depending on political motivation or maintaining power and status for future progeny. Instead of focusing on oral stories, a much better way to understand Polynesian history is through ancient concepts, or cultural beliefs passed down through many generations. The Tongan concept of 'Hau' or great champion is a strong indicator of centralized rule. It is a concept many Tongans understand today. Whereas the concept of 'Toa' or great warrior simply applies to one great warrior among many. In other words, it applies to a collective or group effort to overcome great odds. In truth, both concepts apply to modern versions of Tongan and Samoan mentality. Hope that sheds some light on the subject.
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Thursday Nov 12
 

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This talk is all too much aye?

From what I've been absorbing in my life we all have part Hamo part Tonga...

From all the theories out there I have one which to me sounds alright. But we will never know the truth because if we do speak to our forefathers in the after life they will highly likely tell us their biased version of accounts. Lol!

I guess we will know the truth someday from a very reliable source JESUS CHRIST.

Here is the theory that I HEARD!!!

Once upon a time we all lived together on one land lets say SAMOA. The governing body of the land decided to make a DEFENCE FORCE for the land and called it TOAGA. The TOAGA had to swear an oath or TAUTOGA. Where the TOAGA resided is now called TONGA.

Through the times weaknesses of men corrupted the organisation and the TOAGA became an opposition to SAMOA hence TONGA was formed.

So Tonga are descendants of DEFENCE FORCE PERSONELL most probably MARINES.

That's the theory I lean towards and everyone can trash it for all I care.

I am a TONGAN who has SAMOAN ancestory and its GREAT.

All we ever do is fight eachother and when we get tired of that we fight eachother internally...Hehehe...
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