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juvvy

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#102
Apr 25, 2009
 
we, moroccans, are more mediterranean than african, but from within my context, i don't notice any racism. on the opposed foreign Blacks and not the natives who are to blame, because they do not try to conform with the local moral codes and they usually erupt troubles. the issue has nothing to do with skin color, and what might happen to an african could happenn also to a european.
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#103
Apr 25, 2009
 
juvvy wrote:
we, moroccans, are more mediterranean than african, but from within my context, i don't notice any racism. on the opposed foreign Blacks and not the natives who are to blame, because they do not try to conform with the local moral codes and they usually erupt troubles. the issue has nothing to do with skin color, and what might happen to an african could happenn also to a european.
Morocco is an African and mediterranean country. Black people do exist in moroccan society. Although they added important elements to the morocan society(e.g. gnawa music), unfortunately there are still some negative towards them. they are often refferd to as slaves and servants, the Moroccan kind has black servants which shows the sick mentality! the king even exhibits his black servants when he has guests!
One more thing, there is exist racism unless you are blind! Watch tv an tell me how many Black anchors are in TV? None. how many actors or actresses? till now there is only one black comedian. Have ya ever opend a book and found a text or a pic of a black man? No!
Any ads by a black man? no.

Isn't it RASISM?
So, NEVER say there is no RASISM!

Concerning the black imigrants, I think they have the same problems of moroccans and suffer like moroccans and I would not blame neither moroccans nor black imigrants cuz the situation is so hard for all.
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#104
May 14, 2009
 
Economically, the Arab world is facade? They
live emulation of untruth there culture. Is not
the true Ummah before you say I generalizing. Just
abreast yourself with there history. Which always
distorted with...nationalism what. Society hasn't
enhance the truth when ask. Most Arabs are you
African since they do no. Do not confuse it with
racism but not nowing. They there Arab? And some
have disassociate the there region from Africa.
Furthmore notice economic depedence upon EU,why?
There corrupt governments surpress the masses. They envy the non-Arab Ummah for being efficient.
I am for Mali we no the truth upon the Magreh there. Not economic innovative if think I being
bias. Go to Yahoo Education and depress colleges
why. Has East Asia have surpass the west in
engineering not because. Of race but supporting
the society, another problem. The strike traditions of Arab culture you have (speak)Arabic
to understand the Koran. This nationalism yes
most northern Africans are indifferent towards.
Non-Arab Ummah do not feel bad they get. There
when they immrigate to so called united Arab. Front especially, Arab gulf whom influence by
western societies. And continue to import there
and Mauritania a racist nation. If your not
Arab your exclude or killed. This true why haven't
the Arab Ummah address this. There racist notion
I am Muslim if Arabs resent us. I shall make Dawah
for you learn to follow the deen. Most Arabs are
narrow minded and resent progress. For the readers
for Morocco notice Mauritania. Oppressive and
racist only Arabs in there nation. Can pratice
Islam if your African your excluded to enter.
Mosque this the truth most Arabs feel there the
perfect Muslims. They continue to instill hatered
against...Arab speaking Muslims. This why Persians
and Catholics are success for converts.
dws123

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#105
May 16, 2009
 
omgg u people are a it retarded just stop arguing :P
n i dnt care if im not spellin correctly, don't have time
to answer your question, just like evrywhere in the world, there is rcism, im half moroccan i dnt hate blacks or whatever, doesn't mean u wont come across any blacks, but the chances are you're not very lilkely to be discriminated
i was in fes ast year, and you go through the market with many moroccan blacks, coz in morocco there are blacks you know, they mainly comee from the south.
my grandad was a black moroccan, and so is my friend
do't assume you WILLL experince racism, only if you're in morocco, coz you will experience it whereaver you go
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#106
Jun 17, 2009
 
juvvy wrote:
we, moroccans, are more mediterranean than african, but from within my context, i don't notice any racism. on the opposed foreign Blacks and not the natives who are to blame, because they do not try to conform with the local moral codes and they usually erupt troubles. the issue has nothing to do with skin color, and what might happen to an african could happenn also to a european.
What do you mean by black people do not conform the moroccan moral code? morocco is hardly a place known for its moral code.
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#107
Jul 7, 2009
 
I would be glad if more people could contribute their view points. I am very interested in the topic. I am Moroccan, black, from the south. I lived almost everywhere in the country. I feel there is a difference between blacks and whites in this country. The guy who spoke about politics and media is right. Moreover there is all this offensive language (words used to refeer to a black person). consider the words: KAHLOUSHI, QELLAWI, DRAWI,?AZZI ...etc. I believe that the first step towards dealing with a problem is first recognizing it; then we should understand its extent before we try to think about solutions. Please contribute your opinion whatever it is. Thanks
Brenda

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#108
Jul 8, 2009
 
I think that the blacks in morocco are nicer then the Moroccans them selves just because they do get a lot of discrimination.

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#109
Jul 9, 2009
 
Brenda wrote:
I think that the blacks in morocco are nicer then the Moroccans them selves just because they do get a lot of discrimination.
Over-the-counter statement. All colors are shining in morocco with the same beauty white, black, pink, magenta cause they are all Moroccans. It’s the country of beautiful sun all the way through the year. Haven’t you heard about it?

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#110
Jul 9, 2009
 
Halim wrote:
Economically, the Arab world is facade? They
live emulation of untruth there culture. Is not
the true Ummah before you say I generalizing. Just
abreast yourself with there history. Which always
distorted with...nationalism what. Society hasn't
enhance the truth when ask. Most Arabs are you
African since they do no. Do not confuse it with
racism but not nowing. They there Arab? And some
have disassociate the there region from Africa.
Furthmore notice economic depedence upon EU,why?
There corrupt governments surpress the masses. They envy the non-Arab Ummah for being efficient.
I am for Mali we no the truth upon the Magreh there. Not economic innovative if think I being
bias. Go to Yahoo Education and depress colleges
why. Has East Asia have surpass the west in
engineering not because. Of race but supporting
the society, another problem. The strike traditions of Arab culture you have (speak)Arabic
to understand the Koran. This nationalism yes
most northern Africans are indifferent towards.
Non-Arab Ummah do not feel bad they get. There
when they immrigate to so called united Arab. Front especially, Arab gulf whom influence by
western societies. And continue to import there
and Mauritania a racist nation. If your not
Arab your exclude or killed. This true why haven't
the Arab Ummah address this. There racist notion
I am Muslim if Arabs resent us. I shall make Dawah
for you learn to follow the deen. Most Arabs are
narrow minded and resent progress. For the readers
for Morocco notice Mauritania. Oppressive and
racist only Arabs in there nation. Can pratice
Islam if your African your excluded to enter.
Mosque this the truth most Arabs feel there the
perfect Muslims. They continue to instill hatered
against...Arab speaking Muslims. This why Persians
and Catholics are success for converts.
Mr. Halim,

You are an unprecedented historian. I am not worried about my future kids of being lied to on their history anymore, since your books will invade all worlds’ libraries in the coming 100 years!!!

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#111
Jul 9, 2009
 
gnawi wrote:
I would be glad if more people could contribute their view points. I am very interested in the topic. I am Moroccan, black, from the south. I lived almost everywhere in the country. I feel there is a difference between blacks and whites in this country. The guy who spoke about politics and media is right. Moreover there is all this offensive language (words used to refeer to a black person). consider the words: KAHLOUSHI, QELLAWI, DRAWI,?AZZI ...etc. I believe that the first step towards dealing with a problem is first recognizing it; then we should understand its extent before we try to think about solutions. Please contribute your opinion whatever it is. Thanks
What about the other names used in morocco for white people like aaroubi, shelh… are they all discriminative terms or just part of the tradition that no one cares about in morocco? Isn’t that all Moroccans use them for fun and jokes? I’ll let answer yourself because I’m sure you know the truth and it is exactly opposite to what you are tying to point out.

Note: Black skin population in morocco is very high

Morocco is one of few countries where racism has no chance in the real life. Have you noticed how Jew, Christian minority are leaving in there? Are they discriminated? Of course no. the minister of economy is Jew. I personally had Jews friends.
The real dicrimination i find in morocco is based on money.

Stop playing the role of the victim...it doesn't help in your secret real purpose...
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Sep 5, 2009
 
wow
annjell

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#114
Sep 7, 2009
 
I have read all the comments. I do not feel the answer was adequate. The question for this post is "Do Moroccans dislike black Americans?"

I would like to see the true answer to this. I am interested because as a U.S. citizen, I've noticed when people from the Middle East, Africa, and India come here, they tend to look down upon the American blacks.
mounaim

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#115
Nov 1, 2009
 
well.as for me moroccan people are not racist to black people because in the islamic religion there shouldnt be discrimination between black or white,arab or non arab,men or women etc...by the way i am moroccan and i believe that it is easier to go to mars or the moon than it is to penetrate one's own being.being black,does this hurt other people?
annjell

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#117
Saturday Nov 14
 
Mounaim, thanks for your response. I hope I did not sound rude. That truly wasn't my intention.

I was truly curious about this because, here in the U.S., there are cases, mostly Hindu Indians and a few Persians (I know they are different from Arabic peoples- or is it proper to say Middle Eastern?) the families forbid and sometimes kill their daughters for dating black men, or the daughter-in-law for being black. I haven't heard of any one from Morocco, Egypt....doing this.

However, for some reason people have caused black people to have a bad reputation all over the world. True, there are some really bad/violent blacks, but, that's in all racial groups.

True, there are some blacks that are considered lazy, but, that's in every racial group.

Then, there's this stigma on black women, that they are too bossy, aggressive....I guess when women have to take care of the household, defend the family from intruders - what's wrong with that? I guess what I am saying is the women don't want to be a victim easily.

Can you tell me how this is right/wrong based on your culture? Especially if sometimes there are no men around to fulfill this role?

I do know in most Middle Eastern countries, there's always a male figure, whether it be son, uncle, cousin...Here in the U.S. that's not always the case, most black men or even young men are put in jail/prison, or families are separated living in different states.

Thanks!
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#118
Monday Nov 16
 
Dear read,
to start with moroccan people are kind of black, Mixed race, brown, yellow, berber,Arab.....
I don't know what is this conversation triyng to acheave, Let me assure you of someting moroccan people are very tolerant loving to foreigners because it comes natural as cutural think, If friendship is build on respect accepting the other i shouldn't think it will be a problem with anyone regardless of color, Faith, sex,
God save humanity
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#119
Tuesday Nov 17
 
annjell wrote:
Mounaim, thanks for your response. I hope I did not sound rude. That truly wasn't my intention.
I was truly curious about this because, here in the U.S., there are cases, mostly Hindu Indians and a few Persians (I know they are different from Arabic peoples- or is it proper to say Middle Eastern?) the families forbid and sometimes kill their daughters for dating black men, or the daughter-in-law for being black. I haven't heard of any one from Morocco, Egypt....doing this.
However, for some reason people have caused black people to have a bad reputation all over the world. True, there are some really bad/violent blacks, but, that's in all racial groups.
True, there are some blacks that are considered lazy, but, that's in every racial group.
Then, there's this stigma on black women, that they are too bossy, aggressive....I guess when women have to take care of the household, defend the family from intruders - what's wrong with that? I guess what I am saying is the women don't want to be a victim easily.
Can you tell me how this is right/wrong based on your culture? Especially if sometimes there are no men around to fulfill this role?
I do know in most Middle Eastern countries, there's always a male figure, whether it be son, uncle, cousin...Here in the U.S. that's not always the case, most black men or even young men are put in jail/prison, or families are separated living in different states.
Thanks!
My dear, thank you for post. Let me tell you some things. Moroccan is the WORST people in the world. Don't waste your time with them. They are all slave to money. All they want from you is your money or your American Europe Canada passport. They will lie and cheat you for this things. Moroccan are famous for 1. prostitution 2. illegal immigration 3. black magic voodoo 4. hashish and other drugs. The Moroccan woman is #1 prostitute ("SHARMOUTA") in all Arab and Muslim world. She sell her body to do sex for money. It is very easy for her. She will do ANY THING for money. ANY THING. She have no honor no respect no shame. She is like toilet. Any one can use her to do ANY THING. And Moroccan is weak and lazy. He dont work. He dont even try to work. He sit all day at cafe near the street and watch people come and go. Only thing he know is lie and cheat. Moroccan is very bad very dirty very cheap. I know this people very well. I am Saudi man and I go Spain UK German France Holland Canada America. Every where Moroccan do bad things. And in Arab Gulf ("KHALEEJ") who is #1 prostitute is Moroccan. No Arab respect the Moroccan we know how bad they are. You get my point?
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#120
Tuesday Nov 17
 
Moriyah wrote:
Momo,
so which part of Morocco is the best, in your eyes?(If I may be so bold.)
LMAO,
No problem.
No part. All of Morocco is bad. But if you want go there to F*CK the woman then go. but dont marry them. Moroccan woman all are dirty B*TCHES and slave for money. I tell you true, my dear.
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#121
Tuesday Nov 17
 
Sorry, it wasn't my intent to cause any problems. I am a American female, and I just wanted to know if there were any bad feelings towards American blacks.

Actually, these are some of things people say about blacks. Yet, there are successful blacks like Oprah Winfrey...

As for me, I treat people with respect. But, since we all know America is a racist country, regardless of where you were born, I was curious. I was even more curious, because, as I said, most Hindu Indians, and Persians strongly dislike blacks.
Armenians & Egyptians I've met were pretty nice. On television I've seen inter-racial marriages with Middle Eastern people.
And I guess the other question I had, is it wrong for American women to be bossy or aggressive when they are forced to be held of household/single parents?
That raises another issue, most women want to be mothers, but, there are really no chance for everyone woman to have a husband based on our culture. Most men do not want wives, family/friends don't approve, some are scared of paying money after divorce - let's just say, people here do not value marriage.

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#122
Wednesday Nov 18
 
The issue of race always occurs when there are hard economic conditions.It is always used for political gains.The layman believes in it as it is easy and convenient .Moroccans do not dislike black people as they are themselves highly mixed.But you are most likely to find some uneducated,ignorant moroccans who do.This apply to any society.The better education ,the better race relation.
annjell wrote:
Sorry, it wasn't my intent to cause any problems. I am a American female, and I just wanted to know if there were any bad feelings towards American blacks.
Actually, these are some of things people say about blacks. Yet, there are successful blacks like Oprah Winfrey...
As for me, I treat people with respect. But, since we all know America is a racist country, regardless of where you were born, I was curious. I was even more curious, because, as I said, most Hindu Indians, and Persians strongly dislike blacks.
Armenians & Egyptians I've met were pretty nice. On television I've seen inter-racial marriages with Middle Eastern people.
And I guess the other question I had, is it wrong for American women to be bossy or aggressive when they are forced to be held of household/single parents?
That raises another issue, most women want to be mothers, but, there are really no chance for everyone woman to have a husband based on our culture. Most men do not want wives, family/friends don't approve, some are scared of paying money after divorce - let's just say, people here do not value marriage.
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Wednesday Nov 18
 
Thanks for your response Ibro. I agree your comments 100%. Another question, please answer, if possible. What country does the last name Suhayda come from, and what does it mean? This is a last name. Thanks
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