turks are not mongols

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TATAR

Krefeld, Germany

#1 Jun 28, 2009
Turks are not Mongolians.And hey were never be mongolians in the past history.They were neighbors and most of the time enemies!
alp-arslan

Iran

#2 Aug 13, 2009
not enemy.
we can say turks and mogolians are brother natioans with the same altayic root like japanese and korean and tunguzics
A8hna

Netherlands

#3 Aug 29, 2009
Are they?
A8hna

Netherlands

#4 Aug 29, 2009
?
Explorer

Feltham, UK

#6 Oct 3, 2009
TATAR wrote:
Turks are not Mongolians.And hey were never be mongolians in the past history.They were neighbors and most of the time enemies!
However, the modern turkey includes Mongols left by the Mongol invaders who later converted to Islam. Turkey does not accept that it has many races besides the Turks and the Kurds.
nomad

Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia

#7 Nov 28, 2009
the turks from turkey are not related by blood to kazaks, kyrgyzs and mogols

“Stupid is as stupid does.”

Since: Nov 08

Shoplandia

#8 Dec 11, 2009
Tatars and Mongols used to be neighbors.
Erdem

Istanbul, Turkey

#9 Jan 5, 2010
Also mongols are not turks. I am tired to tell this to turks who think that current mongols in fact are ancient turks only because according historic records AD 555 - 745, i.e. almost two centuries 1st turkish empire ruled in mongolian land. Nomad tribes in central asia took power on each other, and mongol tribes became most powerful since they established Khamag Mongol Ulus under Chinggis Khan rule in 12 century.
Macedon

Greece

#10 Sep 22, 2010
Turks are initially mongols that mixed to other nomad asian tribes and finally resulted as a powerful nation of marauders and assassins.

Mongolians should be ashame for been related to the turks - they're good people while turks are not.
Macedon

Greece

#11 Sep 22, 2010
TATAR wrote:
Turks are not Mongolians.And hey were never be mongolians in the past history.They were neighbors and most of the time enemies!
turkcen raus!
Dardanelli

Istanbul, Turkey

#12 Dec 22, 2010
The ones who confuse Turks with Mongols, do also confuse their mothers with wives !:):)
fk turks

Athens, Greece

#13 Dec 26, 2010
Explorer wrote:
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However, the modern turkey includes Mongols left by the Mongol invaders who later converted to Islam. Turkey does not accept that it has many races besides the Turks and the Kurds.
a) those are not races they are ethnicities and b) the turks thought they killed off everyone but the kurds already and working on them.
c) mongols even at their worst had a shred of honor, to turks that just a word to wield against honorable people
plastic

Saudi Arabia

#14 Jan 20, 2011
IF TURKS ARE MONGOLIANS IF WE BECAME TO WHITE RACE WHY U UGLY BROWN SHIT FACE KURDS AND ARMANIASN DID NOT BECOME TO MONGOL FACES? ASLO SLATING EYES ARE DOMINATE MEANS ARMMAN KURDS MUST BE SLATING EYES ALSO TURKS HAVE NO SLATING EYES AND TURKS ARE WHITE RACE ALL PICTURES ARE PROPAGANDA U TURKISH HATERS THEY PUT PICTURES OF BROWN KURDISH PEOPLE THEY SAY THT THESE ARE TURKS U R A BIG LIERS AND HATERS OF ISLAM

https://sites.google.com/site/turkishgirls201...
plastic

Saudi Arabia

#15 Jan 20, 2011
https://sites.google.com/site/turkishgirls201...

IF TURKS ARE MONGOLIANS IF WE BECAME TO WHITE RACE WHY U UGLY BROWN SHIT FACE KURDS AND ARMANIASN DID NOT BECOME TO MONGOL FACES? ASLO SLATING EYES ARE DOMINATE MEANS ARMMAN KURDS MUST BE SLATING EYES ALSO TURKS HAVE NO SLATING EYES AND TURKS ARE WHITE RACE ALL PICTURES ARE PROPAGANDA U TURKISH HATERS THEY PUT PICTURES OF BROWN KURDISH PEOPLE THEY SAY THT THESE ARE TURKS U R A BIG LIERS AND HATERS OF ISLAM
Azerbaijan_NS

Haarlem, Netherlands

#16 Feb 20, 2011
Turks are not Mongols. They are both Altaic people and that's it.
JUJU

Saudi Arabia

#17 Apr 4, 2011
TURKS ARE NOT MONGOLS AND MONGOLS ARE NOT TURKS
1)TUKS DIDINT COME FROM CENTRAL ASIA THESE LIES BELONG TO GREEKS ARMANIANS FRANCE AND KURDS (TURKISH HATERS) THEY JUST WANT TO SAY ANATOLIA WAS BELONG TO THEM AND WE KILLED THEM BUT THEY KILLED US ALL TIMES
2)IT IS IMPORTANT THAT MONGOLS CAME FROM ASIA TO BAGHDAT AND ANATOLIA AND KILLED MUSLIMS ALSO DESTROYED ALL ISLAMIC BOOKS
IN BAGHDAT
3)MONGOLS KILLED A LOT OF TURKS(MUSLIMS) IN ANATOLIA IN WAR OF KOSEDAG
4)AFTER WAR OF KOSEDAG MONGOLS CONTROLLED TURKS IN ANATOLIA AND PICKED A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM ALL NATIONS TO RAISE AN ARMY
5)THIS ARMY BECAME SO STRONG BECAUSE OF THESE NATIONS UNDER THE COMAND OF CHING IS KHAN (IN ARABIC LANGUAGE TATAR MEANS MONGOL)
6)THEY HAD OVERRUN A LOT OF COUNTRY ALSO ANATOLIA
7)TURKISH LANGUAGE AND MONGOLOID LANGUGE ARE SOOOO DIFFERENT EVERY LANGUGE EFFECTS THE OTHER ONE
(THERE ARE SOME MONGOLIAN WORDS IN TURKISH LANGUAGE AND ALSO THERE ARE SOME FARSI LANGUAGE IN MONGOLIAN LANGUAGE)BECAUSE OF THE INVASION OF ANATOLIA FROM MONGOLS
8)SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT OTTOMANS WERE MONGOLS BUT THESE UNEDUCATED PEOPLE CANT THINK THAT OTTOMANS WERE MUSLIMS AND MONGOLIANS WERE BUDIST MONGOLS WANTED TO DESTROY ISLAM OTTOMANS WANTED TO DISSEMINATE THEIR ISLAMIC IDEAS
9)OTTOMANS USED 3 LANGUAGES NAMED OSMANIYYA MIXED WITH TURKISH FARSI AND ARABIC LANGUGE HIS MEANS THAT THEY WROTE TURKISH LANGUAGE WITH ARABIC LETTERS WITH FARSI NOUN PHRASES OTTOMANS WERE TURKS NOT MONGOLIANS
10)ONLY 3 OTTOMAN SULTAN MARRIED WITH BULGHARIAN WOMEN THE OTHERS MARRIED WITH TURKS
11)TODAY KAZAKHS UZBEKS UYGHURS TATARS DONT SAY THAT THEY ARE TURKS ONLY SOME IDIOT PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY ARE TURKS
12)KAZAKS UYGHURS UZBEKS TATARS ARE MONGOLIAN NATIONS TATAR MEAN MONGOL IN ARABIC LANGUAGE
13)THE REAL TURKS ARE ANATOLIAN TURKS AZERBAIJAN AND TURKMENS IN IRAQ ALL THSE RUN AWAY FROM ANATOLIA BECAUSE OF MONGOL INVASION
14)THERE ARE A LOT OF FAKE PICTURES ON NET UNDER TURKISH PEOPLE (WITH SLATING EYES)
15)SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT TURKS WERE MONGOLIANS THEY MIXED WITH ARMANIANS GREEKS AND KURDS BECAME TO CAUCASIANS THIS IS HISTORICAL LIE WE CANT MIX WITH OUR ENEMIES THE SECOND ONE IS SLATING(CHINES EYES)EYES ARE DOMINATE NOT RECESSIVE THIS MEAN THAT IF TURKS MIXED WITH THEM ARMANIANS GREEKS OR KURDS MIGHT HAVE CHANGED TO MONGOLIAN FACES NOT US
16)IF WE MIXED WITH THEM WHY ARMAIANS GREEKS OR KURDS HAVE NO SLATING EYED CHILDREN TOO? IF ANY NATION MIX WITH THE OTHER BOTH OF THEM MUST CHANGE NOT ONLY ONE
oleg

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Apr 19, 2011
I am Kalmyk. We belong to mongol group. Kalmyk and Mongol is very alike. A mongol can understand kalmyk. Even though I think Kalmyk language is older mongolian essentially. Kalmyks left mongolia 400 years ago, so the language remained unchanged, even though many words were taken from russian. While mongol language developed into modern mongolian. I am kalmyk, and we were in war with kazakhs and other turks for centuries. Kazakhs are not related to mongols, in the first place they were enemies of mongols. If someone calls uzbeks, kazakhz related to mongols mongols, you are delusional. The only relationship probably was when Mongol army conquered the Kazakh territories and took their women as wives, the relationship ends right there.
oleg

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Apr 19, 2011
Also, consider that Mongols became to be known as mongols after Chingis Khan united all the tribes. Under him all of those tribes became known as mongols. Essentially all of those mongolian nations carried different names. It resembled American Indians. American Indians were named by europeans, but initially all of indians were different, and many had different customs, and different dialects. Same goes with Mongolian tribes. Even after the death of chingis khan, the mognols split again into different khanates because every khanate was diffirent traditionaly. but overall all mongols are related, it is only the tribes are different.
oleg

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Apr 19, 2011
and, BIG NO, kazakhs were not one of mongols tribes.
Lee

Beijing, China

#21 May 16, 2011
oleg wrote:
I am Kalmyk. We belong to mongol group. Kalmyk and Mongol is very alike. A mongol can understand kalmyk. Even though I think Kalmyk language is older mongolian essentially. Kalmyks left mongolia 400 years ago, so the language remained unchanged, even though many words were taken from russian. While mongol language developed into modern mongolian. I am kalmyk, and we were in war with kazakhs and other turks for centuries. Kazakhs are not related to mongols, in the first place they were enemies of mongols. If someone calls uzbeks, kazakhz related to mongols mongols, you are delusional. The only relationship probably was when Mongol army conquered the Kazakh territories and took their women as wives, the relationship ends right there.
I think you are an amateur at your own history. You know nothing about genesis or Asian history. Based on genetic, Eastern Turks (Kazakhz, Kyrgyz, Yakuts, Tuvas etc) are related to Buryats. Where else Kalmyk are genetically similar to East Asian ethnics (Manchus, Daur, Oroqen, Koreans, some Northern Chinese etc.). Buryats and Kalmyks were not related in the beginning. Mongolian is a new race created from the integration of the earlier people of the Asian Steppe that include pre-mongo, turkics and other post-hunnics, Siberian tribes, etc.

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