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MUQ wrote: <quoted text>
What is "Inherently Good"?
I am unable to understand this term. An inherent ethical code. As is visible, measurable and all receiving benefit by it. Truth is not objective, or what some consider strong arguements are to others just superstitions. But a moral code is based at least part on people being able to distinguish between good and bad. Striving to perfect a common goal or imperfecting. How was that again...do muslim have free will? People withut free will can not be ruled by ethical rules, because they would blunder about regardless of consequences. But admittedly before the year 1000 thereabouts philosophy, astronomy and reasoning where well addressed in Arab culture. As well as the originators of the introducing chapter to a book. After 1000 CE behaviour had to reflect strict rules that showed how islamic one was, and schools were closed. So it was not just the crusades but also internal prosecutions of f.i. sufi's.
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voluntarist wrote: Too much money being made on treatment, doctors get kickbacks from drug companies. -- You've got a point. A palet of salt (most medications are a form of salt) costs 65 $ per ton (AM.) The developed medication does not work the way they figured, so ends up being distributed to psychiatry as a dangerous placebo (it worked well with people having psychosomatic complaints) Developments cost and especially patents adds up to 6,5 million. Advertising 10 million. Cost for all those phd students and some actual professionals 15 million. We are now having the stuff allready 3(+ 4*) years on the market, what should be the socalled trial-phase and are close to getting FDA approval. Then some smart chinese people take a look and find that it shrinks cells and kills them exponentially, so that it would be a good cancer- drug, if it could be guided to the proper place! *It is however still on the market in psychiatry! (forgot the name, but they promised the moon when initially marketed it as a painkiller.)
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““You must not lose faith ”
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All awarded clueless...must be a case of dementia! So nothing to worry about Frijoles.
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COR wrote: 01. our logic has many fatal flaws, not the least of which is your assumption that Islam is based on "Truth and Justice and Reason and Logic". The fact is, it's not based on any of that stuff. It is a faith-based religion, like all other religions.
02. If you were born into a Christian household, you would most likely be saying the same thing of Christianity. If you were born into an Orthodox Jewish household, you would most likely be saying the same thing of Judaism, etc, etc...
03. It is a fact that a majority of people will cling to the religion they are born into and not base their decision on any form of logic or reason. This, in and of itself, reveals your bias and discredits your proposition.
04. Finally, with regards to what is good or bad for society - some things are obvious, and those things are typically shared across all major religions, philosophies and humanistic moral codes. Other things are more subjective. To imply one religion is based on truth and others aren't is a false dichotomy and creates unnecessary friction, and this is NOT good for society. Ans. 01. You have to come out with any belief of Islam that is not based on reason and logic. Just laying a general statement is not enough. In fact every belief of Islam has a very sound reason and logic and justification and it is only Islam which can face any scrutiny by any unbiased method. 02. If you are born into Jewish and Christian house hold you would “say” the same things, but when asked to prove them on reason or logic, you would fail!! You ask Christians and Jews about the fundamental article of their faith and reason and logic and truth about it and they start speaking in unintelligible language. Just ask any Christian to explain Trinity to you and please tell me, is it English or some other language he is speaking. 03. It is unfortunate that people cling to religion of their parents without checking and asking questions about it. If people were to ask questions about their beliefs and beliefs of their parents, the same way they ask about worldly things, the situation would be totally different. That is what we ask people to do, to ask basic questions about their beliefs and check and verify how much they are true. 04. There are lots of “theories and suggestions” from Philosophical and Thinkers what are best solutions for the society. But they are only on paper, the moment you put them into practice you found that they are only good on papers. Like this Communism and Socialism, they are very good solutions to solve all problems of humanity on paper, but once you implement them fully, you found that they are not the real solutions, They create more problems than they solve it. The same goes for Judaism and Christianity , try to implement them 100 % and you start facing problems. It is only Islam which is 100 % practicable and can deliver the goods, and that is WHY every one is united to oppose islam, because they do not WANT to solve their problems, they want to live in confusion and in conflict and in doubt.
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MUQ wrote: 01. You have to come out with any belief of Islam that is not based on reason and logic. Just laying a general statement is not enough. How about the most fundamental of all, which is the foundation for the rest of your beliefs: "The core beliefs of Islam are that there is only one god – unitary and beyond comprehension." The burden is now on you to use logic and reason to prove that something that is beyond comprehension exists, and that there is one and only one god. And, you should prove it without relying on logical fallacies such as Argument from Ignorance and Argument from Incredulity (Hint: Intelligent design falls under these logical fallacies). To deny that your beliefs are based on faith (belief without evidence) is disingenuous of you. MUQ wrote: ...If you are born into Jewish and Christian house hold you would “say” the same things, but when asked to prove them on reason or logic, you would fail!! As will you. I've seen you play this game before, and I have been unimpressed to say the least. I fully expect you to come back with some basic logical fallacies. MUQ wrote: You ask Christians and Jews about the fundamental article of their faith and reason and logic and truth about it and they start speaking in unintelligible language. As do you. MUQ wrote: Just ask any Christian to explain Trinity to you and please tell me, is it English or some other language he is speaking. Different flavors of the same mythology that you subscribe to. I've heard it all, and it's all gibberish, including yours. MUQ wrote: It is unfortunate that people cling to religion of their parents without checking and asking questions about it.
If people were to ask questions about their beliefs and beliefs of their parents, the same way they ask about worldly things, the situation would be totally different.
That is what we ask people to do, to ask basic questions about their beliefs and check and verify how much they are true. Liar. Apostates are murdered in your religion. If someone questions too much and decides that Islam consists of the same made up crap as everyone else's, they suffer severe consequences. MUQ wrote: There are lots of “theories and suggestions” from Philosophical and Thinkers what are best solutions for the society.
But they are only on paper, the moment you put them into practice you found that they are only good on papers.Like this Communism and Socialism, they are very good solutions to solve all problems of humanity on paper, but once you implement them fully, you found that they are not the real solutions, They create more problems than they solve it. Trial and error. It's how the human experience works. And I would add that Islam also creates more problems than it solves. MUQ wrote: The same goes for Judaism and Christianity , try to implement them 100 % and you start facing problems.
It is only Islam which is 100 % practicable and can deliver the goods I have yet to see the "goods" delivered by Islam above and beyond what is delivered by other religions or by secular sources. You'll need to elaborate on what these special, Islam-only "goods" are rather than speaking in generalities. MUQ wrote: ...and that is WHY every one is united to oppose islam Your persecution complex is showing through. You really need to stop playing the victim.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam
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MUQ wrote: <quoted text>
Ans.
01. You have to come out with any belief of Islam that is not based on reason and logic. Just laying a general statement is not enough.
In fact every belief of Islam has a very sound reason and logic and justification and it is only Islam which can face any scrutiny by any unbiased method.
rabbee: all religions are based, on the prejudice of their own scripture. even the religion of science, is based on the prejudice of their own books, heresay and verbal exchange. the chinese religion, does not base their beliefs on american or russian religious history. and we know these histories are written, with the bias of the present governments.
02. If you are born into Jewish and Christian house hold you would “say” the same things, but when asked to prove them on reason or logic, you would fail!!
You ask Christians and Jews about the fundamental article of their faith and reason and logic and truth about it and they start speaking in unintelligible language.
Just ask any Christian to explain Trinity to you and please tell me, is it English or some other language he is speaking.
rabbee: it could be your prejudice that makes their language intelligeble. as most people would not understand what two doctors, or aerospace engineers are talking about. if it is out of your field or intrest, you just hear it as gobble-de-gook. and please tell me, you can't understand the conciept of father mother son on earth as it is in HEAVEN of Heavens. because you have to really, really blind yourself to not see that one.
03. It is unfortunate that people cling to religion of their parents without checking and asking questions about it.
If people were to ask questions about their beliefs and beliefs of their parents, the same way they ask about worldly things, the situation would be totally different.
That is what we ask people to do, to ask basic questions about their beliefs and check and verify how much they are true.
and just which liar, do you want to get your alleged truth from? since all religions seem to come with a lot of bs. some just more than others. and don't think this does not come, with the religion of secular science too.
04. There are lots of “theories and suggestions” from Philosophical and Thinkers what are best solutions for the society.
But they are only on paper, the moment you put them into practice you found that they are only good on papers.
Like this Communism and Socialism, they are very good solutions to solve all problems of humanity on paper, but once you implement them fully, you found that they are not the real solutions, They create more problems than they solve it.
The same goes for Judaism and Christianity , try to implement them 100 % and you start facing problems.
It is only Islam which is 100 % practicable and can deliver the goods, and that is WHY every one is united to oppose islam, because they do not WANT to solve their problems, they want to live in confusion and in conflict and in doubt.
rabbee: these are all based on, religious superstitions. even in the birth process, science is lying to you all for the third time. rabbee: i have the advantage here, i have seen an argued with G-D. and i have lost all of my, arguments with G-D. which is kind of weird, because my losing all my arguments. has become a victory for me. how many people can say, i lost the race but won it anyway? because everyone else, was running in the wrong direction.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam
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medical science is not telling you, the truth about the birth process. they don't understand it, so there making up their own supersticions.
birth for the last two times, is a process of resurrection of the previously dead. for the third time sarah faye ann carney, has been the grandmother of this world.
and you have all been the her grandchildren sarah faye ann carney, from the previously twice before here in TheTorah from G-D.
i would be hard pressed, to find a single one of you. that have not been in this, very same story today as twice before actually in it.
so this is not the first time, that joel and others have all been the exact same lifetime a-hole. this is the third time, you have all worshiped the same old artifact, of amnesia of the fields here in TheTorah.
it even tells you, in TheTorah. that all who follow him. shall never have any prior memories, of ever being here in TheTorah to keep. with my only protection, being the results of these actual visits from G-D.
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Chasing Y Tail
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Looks like there are two people on here only, one with multiple personalities but the same writing style. Same one with delusions of grandure.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam
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the government, of the united states of america. is modeled after the san hedreen, of two thousand years ago. and i am supprized that, none of you highly intelligent creatures have noticed this. it is the same type of the one, We(me and your grandmother sarah faye ann carney) both did oral battle against as Adam. only because G-D promised, me and your grandmother sarah the last time, We would have to return and do this tree of life thing again. and all of you, following mr amnesia. is the main reason why, TheHisSon adam. can never find the his true mate in these second comings of Adam. these two testings of Adam, are not designed to let G-D know how well you are all not doing. they are designed, to let you know how well you have or have not done. and is exactly what i, also have to judge myself first with G-D with. no one but G-D told me first, that you all were not doing. what you are all supposed to be doing, here in TheTorah actually. as everyone following that same old beast of amnesia, has got you all helping him, make everyone forget what story you are all really in from G-D. i really hate writting, cause i am not the best writter in this world against G-D. and if i tell you all, we are all here in TheTorah still. here at the end, of the sixth day again. i don't think i should, have to write anything. since this is already all prophecized to all, actually happen again here in TheTorah from HaShem. nobody knew the reason even then, why TheWe( me and the grandmother of this world) didn't write anything. is because We had TheTorah, with every thing, that has actually happened before. everything that, is actually happening now. and everthing that, shall happen tomorrow. TheTorah is the ultimate Prophecy, of all things, past, present, and future happenings. and altering your scriptures to suit yourselves with the beast, does not really change it. that only insures, all the very same tragities as before. so for the third time, your only new experience. is getting another time, here in TheTorah worse than before. with G-D giving TheTorah Happening. and you all mentally running away only, from being here in IT lusting for the delusions, of the subtle beasts of the fields. physically, your all here in TheTorah right now, even if you are all mentally hiding from G-D here in IT.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam
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Chasing Y Tail wrote: Looks like there are two people on here only, one with multiple personalities but the same writing style. Same one with delusions of grandure. rabbee: so you are, both of em? i'll bet that gets, expensive when you buy airplane tickets for yourselves. or do you cheat, and smuggle all the other ones in for free?
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rabbee yehoshooah adam
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MAAT wrote: All awarded clueless...must be a case of dementia!
So nothing to worry about Frijoles. rabbee: ah what the heck, lashon hara is the standard of this world of nobodies, here in TheTorah any way.
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Chasing Y Tail
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For a person who doesn't like to write, you sure blog a lot. Shut up already.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam
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anti-paranoid: there ain't no body here in TheTorah, to actually get me.
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Chasing Y Tail
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Not sure what freakin language you write in, but this is the USA, write in english. If you are all knowing and apparently this prophetic beast, what's happening now and what's going on tomorrow. While you are at it, give us the damned lotto #s. Listen to the garbage that is spewing out of your fingers. How in the world did you con yourself into this craziness? You need to put down that crack pipe and stop reading that crazy stuff. And stop being so darned verbose.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam
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Chasing Y Tail wrote: For a person who doesn't like to write, you sure blog a lot. Shut up already. rabbee: do you really think, i would be doing this? if G-D had not of commanded me to do this, before the internet was even invented again. yes i know you can't see your grandfather adam, with a laptop the last time here in this same story again. this is not the first time, G-D has given us the internet? unless your just too plain stupid, to see the very same thing happening again this time.
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Chasing Y Tail wrote: Not sure what freakin language you write in, but this is the USA, write in english. If you are all knowing and apparently this prophetic beast, what's happening now and what's going on tomorrow. While you are at it, give us the damned lotto #s. Listen to the garbage that is spewing out of your fingers. How in the world did you con yourself into this craziness? You need to put down that crack pipe and stop reading that crazy stuff. And stop being so darned verbose. I like verbose, within limits.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam
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there are even those idiots, who cannot grasp the comnceipt of sumarization. that actually think, i never said more that 57 words in TheTorah. there are even idiots, that think i could not do any more than make guerrilla cave man grunting noises.
there are even these who think, i did not have these same idiot, athiests, agostice, muslem, other pagans, and christians, jews, russians, chinese, iranians, syrians to deal with the last time. but what you see now, is all happened before. to this idiotic world, still refusing to be here in TheTorah from HaShem.
there ain't nothing changed since the last time G-D gave the whole Torah. with the only progress this whole world has made, is all further backwards. none of this is progress in TheTorah, so it does not even count toward any ones redemption.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam
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SeasideSoon wrote: <quoted text>I like verbose, within limits. rabbee: can i have mine extra-dry, and with two olives?
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rabbee yehoshooah adam
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Rabbi Jeddhi wrote: Leheim rabbee: oh just great, and expert in the hind-lick manuver.
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