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INTERNATIONALAWS

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Nov 12, 2009
 
Superamazing wrote:
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fool, a minority only has to be 1 less than the majority irrespective of anything else, as to internatioal law you are so funny it is
almost beliveable
why majority not respected in cyprus..........
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Nov 12, 2009
 
GreekAustralian wrote:
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Mumtaz, You are wrong about Greece not wanting Turkey as a member!! Greece and Cyprus fully support Turkey's membership!!
They are fooling around with you. They know there will always be one county, and that is all it takes, to vote no on turks in EU so they figure why bother to fuss

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#1221
Nov 12, 2009
 
mumtaz wrote:
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Dear lilalo,what is Greek military doing there.?
This is occupation according to international laws.
Dont occupy Cyprus.
What does Turkey guaranty in Cyprus since the greek junta led coup d'etat against Makarios which only lasted about a week?
It has been 35 long years since!
Why don't you go home?
And please try not to 'forget' your population transfers behind again.
You look ridiculous in the eyes of the World trying to stick on a small island after all those thousands and thousands of m2 you've managed to steal from the Greeks.
Can you do something for better running your country so that you do not always resort in snatching land and or wealth...preferably from us Greeks as you're doing since the Middle Ages?
Isn't it terrible that you still need to get out and grab in order to have?
When is your country going to learn to be peace loving ?
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#1222
Nov 12, 2009
 
lilalo wrote:
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What does Turkey guaranty in Cyprus since the greek junta led coup d'etat against Makarios which only lasted about a week?
It has been 35 long years since!
Why don't you go home?
And please try not to 'forget' your population transfers behind again.
You look ridiculous in the eyes of the World trying to stick on a small island after all those thousands and thousands of m2 you've managed to steal from the Greeks.
Can you do something for better running your country so that you do not always resort in snatching land and or wealth...preferably from us Greeks as you're doing since the Middle Ages?
Isn't it terrible that you still need to get out and grab in order to have?
When is your country going to learn to be peace loving ?
We are already at home. And as Annan UN Plan, we accepted unification, greek side rejected it. And uunfotnately world didnt keep their word and still do not lift ambargo .

So it officially became our home and we will surely remain in forever!
greek

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#1223
Nov 12, 2009
 
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We are already at home. And as Annan UN Plan, we accepted unification, greek side rejected it. And uunfotnately world didnt keep their word and still do not lift ambargo .
So it officially became our home and we will surely remain in forever!
World opinion will always be against Turkey,no counrty will ever accept the TRNC,or recognise your crimes against Cyprus.EMBARGO FOREVER
INTERNATIONALAWS

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Dardanelli wrote:
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We are already at home. And as Annan UN Plan, we accepted unification, greek side rejected it. And uunfotnately world didnt keep their word and still do not lift ambargo .
So it officially became our home and we will surely remain in forever!
if you read anan plan not unification but permanent divisionof 27 percent cyprus--------maybe thats why illegal settlers voted yes were they allowed to vote since are illegal and turkish citizens.....how many legal turkish cypriots now after 1974 illegal invasion from 120000 maybe 50000 legal turkish cypriots left.........
mumtaz

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Nov 12, 2009
 
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Mumtaz, You are wrong about Greece not wanting Turkey as a member!! Greece and Cyprus fully support Turkey's membership!!
No no,they dont support,they seems like supporting.But for Greek it is very important to support Turkey 's member ship.Because some clever eu countries,thinks that ,lets we say ,we support Turkey s member ship,at the end Greek can not accept so we would not be bad with Turkey.I mean some eu countries trust Greeks veto. If Greek says we want Turkeys member ship they will fall in a very comic position,and importance of Greek will be high.Example is Italy.Italy became more important country than France.You know the projects between Italy-Turkey-Russia.
Where is France.They are making Turkish days ,lighting eyfel tower red and white.But too late.
We know there is petrol in ageansea.We are nearly sure that there is petrol in Cyprus waters.Greek can take this petrol no,Turkey can take this petrol No.If there is no problem between Turkey and Greek ,thing like that,
Now Turkish goverment work very very hard solving all problems with its neigbours ,we saw all problems with Syria.We signed protocols with Armenia.Armenia is nothing but it is mania between Turkey and other Turks in middle asia.It will be solved,next year may be.Now Turkey will give its effort to solve Cyprus problem then Ageansea problem.You will see.But Greek must think like a big country,thinks strategicaly.If Greek has a global vision,if he thinks strategicaly there will be no problem.We need one year.Because our goverment is so busy,every day ministers,presidents of different conutries are coming Turkey.Every thing is changing very quickly.
mumtaz

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Nov 12, 2009
 
lilalo wrote:
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What does Turkey guaranty in Cyprus since the greek junta led coup d'etat against Makarios which only lasted about a week?
It has been 35 long years since!
Why don't you go home?
And please try not to 'forget' your population transfers behind again.
You look ridiculous in the eyes of the World trying to stick on a small island after all those thousands and thousands of m2 you've managed to steal from the Greeks.
Can you do something for better running your country so that you do not always resort in snatching land and or wealth...preferably from us Greeks as you're doing since the Middle Ages?
Isn't it terrible that you still need to get out and grab in order to have?
When is your country going to learn to be peace loving ?
Lilalo ''in the eyes of the World '',this kind of aproaches are not usefull.What do you mean by world? Which world.?
For peace we said we will give Maras and Guzelyurt to Greek side you havent accepted.Do you know why you did not accept annan plan?NO.
You will not accept any plan also.
PRIAPOS

Athens, Greece

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No no,they dont support,they seems like supporting.But for Greek it is very important to support Turkey 's member ship.Because some clever eu countries,thinks that ,lets we say ,we support Turkey s member ship,at the end Greek can not accept so we would not be bad with Turkey.I mean some eu countries trust Greeks veto. If Greek says we want Turkeys member ship they will fall in a very comic position,and importance of Greek will be high.Example is Italy.Italy became more important country than France.You know the projects between Italy-Turkey-Russia.
Where is France.They are making Turkish days ,lighting eyfel tower red and white.But too late.
We know there is petrol in ageansea.We are nearly sure that there is petrol in Cyprus waters.Greek can take this petrol no,Turkey can take this petrol No.If there is no problem between Turkey and Greek ,thing like that,
Now Turkish goverment work very very hard solving all problems with its neigbours ,we saw all problems with Syria.We signed protocols with Armenia.Armenia is nothing but it is mania between Turkey and other Turks in middle asia.It will be solved,next year may be.Now Turkey will give its effort to solve Cyprus problem then Ageansea problem.You will see.But Greek must think like a big country,thinks strategicaly.If Greek has a global vision,if he thinks strategicaly there will be no problem.We need one year.Because our goverment is so busy,every day ministers,presidents of different conutries are coming Turkey.Every thing is changing very quickly.
Aegean sea problems?????
PROBLEMS?????
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE SPEAKINH TO, BRE BUDALA BEY?
YOU BAPTIZE YOUR IMPERIALISTIC AGGRESSIVNESS AS A PROBLEM?
THE PROBLEM IS ON YOUR GENERALS' MINDS AND YOUR PATHETIC PEOPLE WHO ARE BRAINWASHED BY YOU DICTATORS (WHO YOU BAPTIZE AS "DEMOCRATIC LEADERS")
INTERNATIONALAWS

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Lilalo ''in the eyes of the World '',this kind of aproaches are not usefull.What do you mean by world? Which world.?
For peace we said we will give Maras and Guzelyurt to Greek side you havent accepted.Do you know why you did not accept annan plan?NO.
You will not accept any plan also.
US congressmen---> "anan plan unacceptable for western democracy"-----> http://www.hri.org/news/greek/ana/2009/09-10-...
Turko

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1960 Independence wrote:
Turko, I suppose you also dispute Turkish Ambassador Emin Dirvana? LOL He even confirms what Denktas said on ITV that the Turks planted the bom b!
"Cyprus Today, Supplements 1-5, 3rd series, 22nd April-5th June, 1964
Former Turkish Ambassador in Cyprus unmasks Denktash and reveals the plot
The former Turkish Ambassador in Cyprus Mr. Emin Dirvana, has accused the extremist Turkish Cypriot leader, Mr. Rauf Denktash, of being solely interested in provoking disputes with the Greeks instead of concentrating on his work as President of the Turkish Cypriot Communal Chamber.
Mr. Dirvana, who was the first Turkish Ambassador after the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus in 1960, published a letter in the Istanbul daily 'Milliyet', replying to attacks made on him by Denktash in a previous article.
In this letter, Mr. Dirvana says that during the time he was Ambassador in Nicosia, there was no discrimination against the Turkish Cypriots. None of them was shot and no Turkish home was damaged or burnt. He himself as Turkey's Ambassador, was treated with respect and deference by President Makarios.
Mr. Dirvana points out that, as head".
May 15, 1964
Here is the names , dates of eoka committing horrendous murders,
see when they started murdering T/Cs,
http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/Davi ...
GREEK MACEDON

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#1230
Nov 12, 2009
 
mumtaz wrote:
This is absolutely true.
''an occupior of cyprus should never talk about democracy''
Greek military occupied cyprus,for peace ,first of all ,all greek military must leave from eu country Cyprus.
In 1974 first Greek military occupied Cyprus.Destroyed goverment.Get out of eu country.
If Greek quarantee forces did not leave Cyprus you wouldn't have invaded the island shithed. You want to be in the EU and at the same time you don't allow a EU member being Cyprus citizens to enter Turkey and have invaded their country. One thousand Cypriot civilians were forwrded to Turkey and dissapeared being murdered and the other shithed comes out on the TV and just sates he killed unarmed Cypriot prisoners of war and nothing happens to him. Just F.O. from theis forun shithed.
GREEK MACEDON

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Nov 12, 2009
 
If Greek quarantee forces did not leave Cyprus you wouldn't have invaded the island shithed. You want to be in the EU and at the same time you don't allow a EU member being Cyprus citizens to enter Turkey and have invaded their country. One thousand Cypriot civilians were forwrded to Turkey and dissapeared being murdered and the other shithed comes out on the TV and just states he killed unarmed Cypriot prisoners of war and nothing happens to him. Just F.O. from theis forun shithed.
GREEK MACEDON

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#1232
Nov 12, 2009
 
@ shithed I answer to all your idiootic questinos but you never answer to any. Waiting for an answer about bombing Attaturks house by turkish secret service so afterwards continued with murderin greek civilians and destroying greek property is turkey. Answer brainless muftarz.

Since: Aug 09

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PRIAPOS wrote:
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Aegean sea problems?????
PROBLEMS?????
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE SPEAKINH TO, BRE BUDALA BEY?
YOU BAPTIZE YOUR IMPERIALISTIC AGGRESSIVNESS AS A PROBLEM?
THE PROBLEM IS ON YOUR GENERALS' MINDS AND YOUR PATHETIC PEOPLE WHO ARE BRAINWASHED BY YOU DICTATORS (WHO YOU BAPTIZE AS "DEMOCRATIC LEADERS")
you are absolutely right but , there is a problem and is named greek land of ion , stolen but turuks from mongolian steppes betrayiting their own tribe of the turanian great mongols , and since then making genocides . the problem is much bigger , they are used into stealing others history and wanders , they claim humanity over their crimes while they demand from others to keep their obligations , since they claim they kept theirs by stopping making genocides and by stopping being the bad boys, theyeven claim to be the next golden boys of genociding their future neiberhood , keeping proudly their tradition!!!!

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mumtaz wrote:
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Lilalo ''in the eyes of the World '',this kind of aproaches are not usefull.What do you mean by world? Which world.?
For peace we said we will give Maras and Guzelyurt to Greek side you havent accepted.Do you know why you did not accept annan plan?NO.
You will not accept any plan also.
You can say such things only when you can count on own capacity to carry out those threats,or if you can count on some very important Lobby.
But even when either of those are available one must show some reserve before launching oneself as the scarecrow in a particular area because this kind of thing can derail the perpetrator of the aggression even more than the vicinised others.

“ein anderer Schauplatz”

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#1235
Nov 12, 2009
 
!lilalo
edit typo
victimised not' vicinised'
mumtaz

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''Greek quarantee forces ''
Dear my stupid,friends,what ki&#351;nd of force is it ?Greek garantie force,

Your force is not important but sembolicaly ,you have to leave from island because this is occupation of an eu country.

Our military is in our land.We occupy our land,but you occupy Cyprus.
Do you recognize international laws.

GET OUT!!!!
mumtaz

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lilalo wrote:
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You can say such things only when you can count on own capacity to carry out those threats,or if you can count on some very important Lobby.
But even when either of those are available one must show some reserve before launching oneself as the scarecrow in a particular area because this kind of thing can derail the perpetrator of the aggression even more than the vicinised others.
Dear lilalo,we are right in Cyprus problem.And we have right on Cyprus.We dont need lobby.
We did not get north by lobby,we havent established Trnc by lobby.

Annan gave a plan to you and us.We read the plan and we said it is ok.You said no.
Why lilalo?

One Greek friend says ,annan plan is not in eu democratic standarts .Ok ,may be you are right,who did prepared this annan plan? West or Africians,?

Annan is black may be you will say yes.

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#1238
Nov 12, 2009
 
mumtaz wrote:
''Greek quarantee forces ''
Dear my stupid,friends,what ki&#351;nd of force is it ?Greek garantie force,
Your force is not important but sembolicaly ,you have to leave from island because this is occupation of an eu country.
Our military is in our land.We occupy our land,but you occupy Cyprus.
Do you recognize international laws.
GET OUT!!!!
Kiss your ass godby litle turk. Get out of here . Ah, sictir...!
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