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“Curious? You should be!”

Since: Nov 10

East of Eden

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#95382
Aug 14, 2012
 
Nazir wrote:
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most albanians are muslim in name only they drink ear pork and dont pray namaz keep roza etc
Albanians give their arses out to whoever's willing to pump it.In Greece,they are Orthodox Christians;In Italy,they are Catholics and when it comes to Turkish support,they are their best Muslim brothers.

“Verba vo BogMakedonec do grob”

Since: Apr 10

Ashford, UK

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#95383
Aug 14, 2012
 
Bronzilla wrote:
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f@cking Bulgarian
here
"When the Athenians attacked the Hellenes, they, the Plataians... Atticized.[Thukydides, 3.62; Theban Accusations]
Mori skila you have no brain to think.
Instead of copy pasting try answering the facking question or is it too difficult for you:-)))
se moa

Varna, Bulgaria

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#95384
Aug 14, 2012
 
Nazir wrote:
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out of curiosity are bosniaks the result of harems or just converts ?
there are many versions for bosniaks, most plausable ones are: 1) they are converted slavs; 2) they are converted croatians, serbs, slovenians; 3) they are converted bulgarian bogomils with mix of other slav people...I personally do not know which version to support nor whether they have been converted by force or willingly. For sure, however, Bosnia lays in the middle between the catholic and ortodoxal worlds and converting locals to another religion has not been a hard task. In addition, during Yugoslavia, Tito was creating new nations just like Russians did - this is how 3 new nations appeared -'muslims','macedonians' and 'kosovars'. Wars in Yugoslavia were a consequence of this nation design experiment.

“Curious? You should be!”

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East of Eden

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#95385
Aug 14, 2012
 
Nazir wrote:
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sorry just highlighting y barbarians should stay in their own lands
Well,I think they've gotten the short straw out of the bunch so far,LOL
Nina M

Litókhoron, Greece

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#95386
Aug 14, 2012
 
Dejan wrote:
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Who's this guy Nina?
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TV...
excuse me? why are you asking me Dejane? dont know who it is.
Bronzilla

Thessaloníki, Greece

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#95387
Aug 14, 2012
 
Nazir wrote:
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konstaniopolis, anstolia and cyprus ?
actually this is what happens right now bro

Kurds will take 30-40% of territory Armenians some 10-15% I have not yet crear idea of the Alevi and other nations but for sure Greeks have the BIGEST land there ;))))
Nazir

Melbourne, Australia

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#95388
Aug 14, 2012
 
peace and love wrote:
<quoted text>Look in the past people played by different rules. Being nice made you a target and being mean made you feared. To this day fear lasts longer than love. Before you judge them find out why they did what they did. Also put yourself in the setting of the time frame.
u have a point, they came to hindustan for its wealth, nothing more having said that alexander the great also invaded but were assimilated
Dejan

Skopje, Macedonia

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#95389
Aug 14, 2012
 
Milena N wrote:
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You were resilient, because you considered yourselves Bulgarian.Then,Serbians got smart and pulled out the Macedonian card.That was genus actually.They were like"See,we don't want to assimilate you.We are telling you who you really are and if you insist you're Bulgarians,you are traitors".The the traitors were sent to prison.
So if we were "resilient Bulgarians", we would've remained so, instead of go for "imagionary" Macedonian identity, invented by our ocupators.
Does this make sense for you.
Btw you can still be "traitor" in your head and in your home, can't you? Why there are less then 500 Bulgarians in Macedonia then, there must have been more who kept their identity secretly?
peace and love

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#95390
Aug 14, 2012
 
Milena, look I am a mix like everyone else. Like you said before Slavic is a language not a race. You are telling me that we speak Bulgarian and the Greeks invented for your pleasure? Is the Slavic language Greek or not?
I personally don't like causing waves between all our people. But there is no clear leader that the Balkans truly needs. So Turkey has stepped up. Even though they are Muslim they have been like an older brother to us. If Bulgaria, Serbia, or Greece were truly our brothers they would have stepped up and guided us towards something good and not wishing death on us.
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And speaking of hate.Look at your media and look at ours.You are the ones spewing hate toward all of us.Frankly,I don't think that's very good strategy for a spit size of a country like yours.Pretty stupid actually.Turkey's your friend.This is fcking hilarious!Who do you think they'd support if the Albanians go after you?Do you think Turks gonna take the side of some Orthodox Christians against their Muslim Albanian brothers?Think again!
Dejan

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#95391
Aug 14, 2012
 
Nina M wrote:
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excuse me? why are you asking me Dejane? dont know who it is.
Nevermind.
Nazir

Melbourne, Australia

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Aug 14, 2012
 
Bronzilla wrote:
<quoted text>actually this is what happens right now bro

Kurds will take 30-40% of territory Armenians some 10-15% I have not yet crear idea of the Alevi and other nations but for sure Greeks have the BIGEST land there ;))))
Insha'Allah everyone will get what they own Yunanistan zindabad ( long live greece )
Bronzilla

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#95393
Aug 14, 2012
 
Nazir wrote:
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u have a point, they came to hindustan for its wealth, nothing more having said that alexander the great also invaded but were assimilated
As Greeks We come to punish but then there always the money and power but Alex was GREAT and not only coz of Aristotel !!!!
peace and love

Norristown, PA

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#95394
Aug 14, 2012
 
Ok, and all these scattered people all the sudden became pure nations again? I'm not saying we are I'm saying no one is. This ancient quest I don't understand. What I do understand is that chances are we are all a mix of the same soup and only Greece has rights to it. And they are mismanaging it so someone else needs to step up if they don't.
se moa wrote:
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very, very wrong, mister..'macedonia' never existed in any Bulgarian books as it was always part of Bulgaria. In 14th century it was part of the Serbs Dushan kingdom..I reckon Serbs also have this in their books. Also, if you ask any Greeks here, and I am sure they have studied medieval history at school, during Basil II, in 12th century, Moeisa, Thrace and Macedonia as a whole part of Bulgaria became part of the Eastern Roman Empire. During that period, greek people settled around the Black sea coast and Bulgarians settled in the Aegean and Thessaloniki/Solun. In the next few hundred centuries nobody was really bothered of history, people just lived in mixed areas. Your newly created republic in fact includes only a very small part of the historical region macedonia, wester parts are actually albanian and never been referred to as macedonia. Imagine what will happen, if a bunch of people try to tell croatians and albanians they are adriatians???
Nazir

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#95395
Aug 14, 2012
 
Milena N wrote:
<quoted text>Albanians give their arses out to whoever's willing to pump it.In Greece,they are Orthodox Christians;In Italy,they are Catholics and when it comes to Turkish support,they are their best Muslim brothers.
such sellouts too bad one of my best friends is albanian
se moa

Varna, Bulgaria

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#95396
Aug 14, 2012
 
'peace and love'...just a note to your words...you said 'serbia and bulgaria OFFICIALLY are not our enemies'...So, unofficially we are your enemies? And as far as I know, you are struggling to enter NATO and EU...Do you know that NATO is a club for friends only? How OFFICIALLY Greece could be your enemy and yet you want to be allies with them? Does not make sense, does it?...Many, many things you have to reconsider, history and honesty will be just the beginning...
Bronzilla

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#95397
Aug 14, 2012
 
peace and love wrote:
Milena, look I am a mix like everyone else. Like you said before Slavic is a language not a race. You are telling me that we speak Bulgarian and the Greeks invented for your pleasure? Is the Slavic language Greek or not?
I personally don't like causing waves between all our people. But there is no clear leader that the Balkans truly needs. So Turkey has stepped up. Even though they are Muslim they have been like an older brother to us. If Bulgaria, Serbia, or Greece were truly our brothers they would have stepped up and guided us towards something good and not wishing death on us.<quoted text>
BS

but we alert you before turds are very small to deal with Greece

look what happen to you now ;)))

alone ;)))
Nina M

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#95398
Aug 14, 2012
 
Dejan wrote:
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I didn't call all the Serbs that, I call you the nationalists Servians that.
Orthodox btw? But you are not Christians, it's not Christian to not recognise our identity or our church which even is older then yours, and yours originate from the Ohrid church and the other way.
now you're gonna tell Serbs are not chritians? ay Dejaneee! ay!
what else??
Nazir

Doncaster East, Australia

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#95399
Aug 14, 2012
 
Bronzilla wrote:
<quoted text>As Greeks We come to punish but then there always the money and power but Alex was GREAT and not only coz of Aristotel !!!!
yeh he was reffered to as a badshah(king) his rule ended geographically from the city of my ancestors
se moa

Varna, Bulgaria

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Dejan wrote:
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So if we were "resilient Bulgarians", we would've remained so, instead of go for "imagionary" Macedonian identity, invented by our ocupators.
Does this make sense for you.
Btw you can still be "traitor" in your head and in your home, can't you? Why there are less then 500 Bulgarians in Macedonia then, there must have been more who kept their identity secretly?
Dejan, until 1944 there were 1,5 miliion Bulgarian in vardarska. In 1945 all they disappeared and suddenly 1,5 million yugoslavian 'macedonians' took their place. What a miracle, don't you think? Yet, it is not a miracle. In 1917, there were 100.000 million Russians. In 1918 after the communism, these turned into Soviet people. In 1944 there were no israelis. In 1950 somehow they were numbered approx. 5 million...Needless to continue...And don't tell me it is Peter Pan who did all this..
Dejan

Skopje, Macedonia

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#95401
Aug 14, 2012
 
Nina M wrote:
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now you're gonna tell Serbs are not chritians? ay Dejaneee! ay!
what else??
Are you Christian if you don't recognise your fellow Christian?

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