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Ali
Johannesburg, South Africa
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Oh MUQ, how dangerous a little knowledge is!!!
You dont know that Jesus came to fulfil the Law and not destroy it? You dont know that the Law was the shadow of that which was to come, meaning the New Testament? Everything in the Old Testament was speaking in kind of that which was to come. You didn't know that man failed in his covenant with God, so God had to make a New Covenant with Himself, and making man the beneficiary? Kimo Sabbi?
Of course the Qur'an is such a confused book that the Muslims quote it and revere it, but live by the Hadith. Tell me of Kaliph Uthman who burned all the varients he could find in order to declare Zaid's copy to Khadijah the official version.. You mean you didn't know? Tut, tut!
I've seen personally a few variants of the Qur'an - in Istanbul's Topkapi Palace Museum, in the British Library, London, in Damascus, and in the Egyptian Museum, Cairo. I also possess a few copies myself!
But, as you don't even know your own holy book and it's history - of course that's forbidden - how would you understand typology or symbolism or interpretation of prophecy or God's ministry of reconciliation, etc.
By the way, the physical bible is but 66 chapters of typed paper and nothing more. Its the message contained in it that you wouldn't understand that's HOLY. But the paper book called Qur'an is sentimentally holy to you even tho you don't understand its message. We are spiritually worlds apart.
You dont know anything about the history of the Bible, its canon, its true message, its authors, the anointing, the leading of God the Holy Spirit, etc, so you can only quote your ignorant leaders condemnation of it??? Show me the perfect original manuscript of the Bible against which you judge all other "versions!" Show me!! You are deceived, man!
Shame, what ignorance!
But what am I trying to convert a "Poo of Little Brain!"
What are you doing no this website anyway? Trying to persuade us that you are intelligent? lol
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wwman uk
Wellingborough, UK
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MUQ wrote: To: Ehav Why should be Pro-Israel when the chips are down? Why cant you be Pro-truth and Pro-justice and Pro-peace? Why Biblical background should program you for doing injustice and wrongs to other people? I do not think that Bible teaches you to do that. Just because people oppress each other or nations do to other nations, it dos not become a right thing to do. So we should keep our conscience clear and always support truth, Justice and peace and oppose Oppression, tyranny and injustice
irrespective of who is doing it. Jews, Christians Or Muslims? Your quite right just because a person or country is weaker phisicaly they should not be down trodden. Equal rights for all faiths even the one that oppress women dress them up in sacks just educate them far enough to do domestic work??
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Amin
Glen Waverley, Australia
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It is proved that Quran is Allah's verse. Recently a child of 9 months carrying some verse of quran on his body and somany example. Now we believe or not everything will be happened according to quran and no one can change but to delay for some days.That is why muslims are so confident. Every action have an equal opposite reaction and what Israel will get the opposite result what they are doing. Some leaders like Ahmenijad are just try to memorise that. If we go beyond nature, then it will take revenge to us. So come to the truth. Truth is universal.Israel is gathering wealth which they cant enjoy. Wealth gives comfort not peace.
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Amin
Glen Waverley, Australia
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The main deference between western and muslim is that muslims believe in the live after death, this life is for time being and next life is eternal so true muslims are trying to make their heaven for next life. In the past so many civilisations came and vanished away. so take lesson from the history. Only contribution for human being is remembered than building cities etc.
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my kind of town
Chicago, IL
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Amin wrote: The main deference between western and muslim is that muslims believe in the live after death, this life is for time being and next life is eternal so true muslims are trying to make their heaven for next life. In the past so many civilisations came and vanished away. so take lesson from the history. Only contribution for human being is remembered than building cities etc. "True Muslims?" Would those be suiciders? Kidnappers? Video executioners? Hijackers? or do you mean "True Musims" are the ones who stone rape victims? Murder their women because of male ego and call it the violence "Honor Killing?" Or would the "True Muslims" be those who force conversion on others? Teach hatred of others? Or brainwash their young into choosing death over life as a way to hang on to political power? If Islamic extremism is making "their heaven for the next life," then "heaven" will be terrifying and painful. No civilized and lasting society can endure based on death..Islamic Fundamentalism is a cult and it will self-destruct. As for who will "vanish" look around- what legacy is Muslim terror leaving other than death? For 5,000 years Jews have continued to contribute to mankind... over 2,000 years Christians have been building and improving their credo...and Islam? Keeping its women in cloth cages and denying the sanctity of human life and free will is a cult, that's all. If Muslims are "truly" interested in bettering the world and preparing for the next they will rise up and take back their faith from the thugs and terrorists who shame them.
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Ali
Johannesburg, South Africa
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My kind of town: Well said> Amin: Hopefully you are not emulating your name-sake, Idi Amin, the Muslim butcher of Uganda??? Muslims dont know their god - he is dispassionate, distant, without love for his creation, uncaring of the plight of the women in Islam, etc. Muslims only hope is that they can earn enough baraka (credit, or brownie points) through doing the 5 Pillars of Islam to merit a chance for paradise. This is the place of wine, women and song which is all currently forbidden - so sin now will be the life style of eternity for the muslim? Shame!
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wwman uk
Wellingborough, UK
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What we have in Uk is Darwins theory of evelution working backward. Most of the muslim underclass are beeding like rabits hence we are being overwelmed by more of the worst kind of muslims more mosqes built. They degrade the country and are storing up their own distruction if they carry on in this way. The bnp are a joke but dont laugh to hard the underlying opinions of most people l speak totaly condeming our weak government for alowing this to happen. Opinions are suficiant to begat actions.
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my kind of town
Chicago, IL
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Ali wrote: My kind of town: Well said> Amin: Hopefully you are not emulating your name-sake, Idi Amin, the Muslim butcher of Uganda??? Muslims dont know their god - he is dispassionate, distant, without love for his creation, uncaring of the plight of the women in Islam, etc. Muslims only hope is that they can earn enough baraka (credit, or brownie points) through doing the 5 Pillars of Islam to merit a chance for paradise. This is the place of wine, women and song which is all currently forbidden - so sin now will be the life style of eternity for the muslim? Shame! And "Paradise" for a Muslim woman?????? Driivng a car with her hair blowing in the wind, on her way to a day of her choosing and passing a long line of 'true muslims" -men in head to toe burkahs who are confinded to their homes and forbidden to speak or travel without the permission of women!!!!!!!!
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Isabella
Wheeling, IL
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Ali wrote: Muslims only hope is that they can earn enough baraka (credit, or brownie points) through doing the 5 Pillars of Islam to merit a chance for paradise. This is the place of wine, women and song which is all currently forbidden - so sin now will be the life style of eternity for the muslim? Shame! Dude, I've tried to tell this politically incorrect truth to my friend My Kind OF Town this for a long time. He continues to give Muslims way too much credit and benefit of doubt. Such foolish if good-hearted man, that MKOT.
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Common Cents
Saint Paul, MN
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Mine Eyes Have Seen wrote: <quoted text> While colorful, not so accurate by accepted historical accounts. However, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Here's mine, apologies for the CAPS : ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM FACTS 1. ISRAEL BECAME A STATE IN 1312 B.C., TWO MILLENNIA BEFORE ISLAM; 2. ARAB REFUGEES FROM ISRAEL BEGAN CALLING THEMSELVES "PALESTINIANS" IN 1967, TWO DECADES AFTER (MODERN) ISRAELI STATEHOOD; 3. AFTER CONQUERING THE LAND IN 1272 B.C., JEWS RULED IT FOR A THOUSAND YEARS AND MAINTAINED A CONTINUOUS PRESENCE THERE FOR 3,300 YEARS; 4. THE ONLY ARAB RULE FOLLOWING CONQUEST IN 633 B.C. LASTED JUST 22 YEARS; 5. FOR OVER 3,300 YEARS, JERUSALEM WAS THE J EWISH CAPITAL. IT WAS NEVER THE CAPITAL OF ANY ARAB OR MUSLIM ENTITY. EVEN UNDER JORDANIAN RULE,(EAST) JERUSALEM WAS NOT MADE THE CAPITAL, AND NO ARAB LEADER CAME TO VISIT IT; 6. JERUSALEM IS MENTIONED OVER 700 TIMES IN THE BIBLE, BUT NOT ONCE IS IT MENTIONED IN THE QUR'AN; 7. KING DAVID FOUNDED JERUSALEM ; MOHAMMED NEVER SET FOOT IN IT; 8. JEWS PRAY FACING JERUSALEM ; MUSLIMS FACE MECCA . IF THEY ARE BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES , MUSLIMS PRAY FACING MECCA , WITH THEIR BACKS TO JERUSALEM ; 9. IN 1948, ARAB LEADERS URGED THEIR PEOPLE TO LEAVE, PROMISING TO CLEANSE THE LAND OF JEWISH PRESENCE. 68% OF THEM FLED WITHOUT EVER SETTING EYES ON AN ISRAELI SOLDIER; 10. VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE JEWISH POPULATION OF MUSLIM COUNTRIES HAD TO FLEE AS THE RESULT OF VIOLENCE AND POGROMS; 11. SOME 630,000 ARABS LEFT ISRAEL IN 1948, WHILE CLOSE TO A MILLION JEWS WERE FORCED TO LEAVE THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES; 12. IN SPITE OF THE VAST TERRITORIES AT THEIR DISPOSAL, ARAB REFUGESS WERE DELIBERATELY PREVENTED FROM ASSIMILATING INTO THEIR HOST COUNTRIES. OF 100 MILLION REFUGEES FOLLOWING WORLD WAR 2, THEY ARE THE ONLY GROUP TO HAVE NEVER INTEGRATED WITH THEIR CO- RELIGIONISTS. MOST OF THE JEWISH REFUGEES FROM EUROPE AND ARAB LANDS WERE SETTLED IN ISRAEL , A COUNTRY NO LARGER THAN NEW JERSEY ; 13. THERE ARE 22 MUSLIM COUNTRIES, NOT COUNTING PALESTINE . THERE IS ONLY ONE JEWISH STATE. ARABS STARTED ALL FIVE WARS AGAINST ISRAEL , AND LOST EVERY ONE OF THEM; 14. FATAH AND HAMAS CONSTITUTIONS STILL CALL FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL . ISRAEL CEDED MOST OF THE WEST BANK AND ALL OF GAZA TO THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, AND EVEN PROVIDED IT WITH ARMS; 15. DURING THE JORDANIAN OCCUPATION, JEWISH HOLY SITES WERE VANDALIZED AND WERE OFF LIMITS TO JEWS. UNDER ISRAELI RULE, ALL MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN HOLY SITES ARE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL FAITHS; 16. OUT OF 175 UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS UP TO 1990, 97 WERE AGAINST ISRAEL ; OUT OF 690 GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTIONS, 429 WERE AGAINST ISRAEL ; 17. THE U.N. WAS SILENT WHEN THE JORDANIANS DESTROYED 58 SYNAGOGUES IN THE OLD CITY OF JERUSALEM . IT REMAINED SILENT WHILE JORDAN SYSTEMATICALLY DESECRATED THE ANCIENT JEWISH CEMETERY ON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES, AN D IT REMAINED SILENT WHEN JORDAN ENFORCED APARTHEID LAWS PREVENTING JEWS FROM ACCESSING THE TEMPLE MOUNT AND WESTERN WALL. A ceur vaillant rien d'impossible.\! Israel will be real orever!
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“Freddy”
Since: Mar 08
Chennai
ISP:
Madras, India
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MUQ wrote: To: Fredric Nobel How are you "sure" that "truth" is being said at those Anti Islamic sites? You have to hear the other side also and make your own research and then make your judgment. If courts would have given their judgment only after hearing one party, you know how much injustice would have been done in this world. You said Islam was created on the dead bodies of Makkah people, while the fact is that Makkah people persecuted our Prophet and his followers for 13 long years. He and his followers had to fled Makkah to save their lives
. Even in Medina they did not allow him to leave in peace
Do you know what happened when the Prophet Captured Makkah? How a blood thirsty man would have done? He forgave every one in Makkah!! Can you give any more example of this type of behaviour from Tyrants and Oppressors of the world? The best time of pardon is when you have the enemy in your power and that is what our prophet showed in that moment. Then total number of casualties in his ten years of warfare do not even reach 1000 counting on both side!! And what were the results? Compare that with the bloodshed which Joshua and David etc did in the small area of Palestine and what results did they got? No doubt Encyclopedia Britannica recognizes our prophet as the Most Successful of all religious personalities. Yes, Jesus birth was miraculous, that shows the power of God and not of Jesus. Did Jesus created himself? What hand had he in his own creation? Adam and Eve also had miraculous creation, did they became god or superhuman? Jesus was what he was, a righteous prophet of God, Born without human father, endowed with many miracles by God, and his mission was reforming the religion of Jews. Jesus' gave good news (Gospel) of coming Kingdom of God
. Jesus did nor establish it. He left it to some one else, to the Last and Final prophet of God, Mohammad (May peace and mercy of God be on all His prophets and messengers) Sorry bit late in replying you i was busy Other side like justifying the killings and the wars which was fought by Mohammad his followers. I have never read any prophet taking arms for revenge for persecution. Be it elijah or jesus all have laid their life for god and betterment for humans. In history god appoints judges or kings to do the war stuffs and leave the prophesy and miracle to the prophets. if mohammad was prophet he wouldn't taken arms. and its was opposite to Jesus teachings forgive all those strike you. And mohammad didn't do any prophesy or miracle how can he be called as prophet in the first place. All the prophets in past including jesus worked for god and to god's word to people and for peace.but mohammad worked for a religion and promoting it. so can mohammad be called as prophet he was just a dictator just a blood hungry theif. and by the by on wht deal he let the mecca and medina people go is that convert or die and they choose to convert so he let him live I never jesus was god. I said jesus was an angel before comming to earth. thats why told not read any RC or protestant docs which never tells the truth.read bible that enough where jesus wasn't portrayed as god in any place. Jesus is the only prophet who is still living and can't die.
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“Freddy”
Since: Mar 08
Chennai
ISP:
Madras, India
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Mine Eyes Have Seen wrote: Islam is a death cult full of trouble makers and hatemongers. Any country that allows Islam to get a foothold are fools. As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness: United States Muslim 1.0% Australia Muslim 1.5% Canada Muslim 1.9% China Muslim 1%-2% Italy Muslim 1.5% Norway Muslim 1.8% At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs: Denmark Muslim 2% Germany Muslim 3.7% United Kingdom Muslim 2.7% Spain Muslim 4% Thailand Muslim 4.6% From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will coerce supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves along with threats for failure to comply. They further demand public tax dollars to support their cult's practices. France Muslim 8% Philippines Muslim 5% Sweden Muslim 5% Switzerland Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands Muslim 5.5% Trinidad & Tobago Muslim 5.8% At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris car burnings, etc.). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam Mohammed cartoons). Guyana Muslim 10% India Muslim 13.4% Israel Muslim 16% Kenya Muslim 10% Russia Muslim 10-15% After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning: Ethiopia Muslim 32.8% At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare: Bosnia Muslim 40% Chad Muslim 53.1% Lebanon Muslim 59.7% From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels: Albania Muslim 70% Malaysia Muslim 60.4% Qatar Muslim 77.5% Sudan Muslim 70% After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide: Bangladesh Muslim 83% Egypt Muslim 90% Gaza Muslim 98.7% Indonesia Muslim 86.1% Iran Muslim 98% Iraq Muslim 97% Jordan Muslim 92% Morocco Muslim 98.7% Pakistan Muslim 97% Palestine Muslim 99% Syria Muslim 90% Tajikistan Muslim 90% Turkey Muslim 99.8% United Arab Emirates Muslim 96% 100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" the Islamic House of Peace theres supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: Afghanistan Muslim 100% Saudi Arabia Muslim 100% Somalia Muslim 100% Yemen Muslim 99.9% And if thats not enough to satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons. Very good observation great work bro
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wwman uk
Wellingborough, UK
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Must be duck/ muslim season. In UK we have been tolerant our history is littered with the relidgious genocide and has made us reluctant to come down on relidgious groups. Your average Britt would prefer to live and let live.Enough is enough we are fed up with the increasing noise and numbers of muslims keep it up and a solution will be found.
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wwman uk
Wellingborough, UK
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Frederick Noble wrote: <quoted text> Very good observation great work bro Good post regetably l think the figures for UK are incorrect l think it is closrer to 5 maybe 7 %. The more of them there are the more obnoxious they get!!
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pov
Naylor, MO
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as long as there are greedy capatilists in the world, we'll never be free of that region's babblings. As long as they have oil, and we have rich looking to exploit it, we'll be stuck with them. Else we could just shut them off from the rest of the world and let them slowly begin to devour themselves.
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hioihio
Pittsburgh, PA
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Common Cents
Saint Paul, MN
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wwman uk wrote: Must be duck/ muslim season. In UK we have been tolerant our history is littered with the relidgious genocide and has made us reluctant to come down on relidgious groups. Your average Britt would prefer to live and let live.Enough is enough we are fed up with the increasing noise and numbers of muslims keep it up and a solution will be found. Stay out of this. We already kicked you out of your country. And we can do it again. Go hump a muslim. Eat a muslim for lunch. HAQ! GB is littered with muslim trash. GBers like you are gutless and balless. You have been defeated so many times that you are like old women and feyguts.
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Common Cents
Saint Paul, MN
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pov wrote: as long as there are greedy capatilists in the world, we'll never be free of that region's babblings. As long as they have oil, and we have rich looking to exploit it, we'll be stuck with them. Else we could just shut them off from the rest of the world and let them slowly begin to devour themselves. Can always tell a topix worm. Has no address. So FUGG off and run across the street during traffic and have some pov run over you.
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pov
Naylor, MO
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just like we can always tell a topix bully by your ravings and your rants. Possessing insulsts does not equal possession of merit.
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pov
Naylor, MO
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sorry for the typo there. typing with a broken hand.
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