|
Gray
Sterling, VA
|
Hello "Military", I assume you actually are or have served our country (the U.S.) as I have and am not just another trained, subsidized, Hate and War Mongering Hasbara Trolls using a deceptive "username" For more on those traitorous Parasites who BY WAY OF DECEPTION send our GIs to die for their Regional Hegemony Ethnic Cleansing etc see: http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/israel... http://www.redress.cc/palestine/slittlewood20... http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/... I agree, Radical ANYTHING is dangerous to the US only Radical Zionists have been successfully deceiving Americans into Hating and Killing Muslims for decades and deliberately killing Americans in the process as far back as the Lavon Affair in the 1950s _ They deliberately massacred 34 American GIs on the Liberty and tried to kill them all be even STRAFING THE LIFEBOATS hoping for no witnesses. AIPAC's Radical Zionist clout is so powerful that they prevented an honest Full Scale Congressional Investigation to occur..........TO THIS DAY. Their Scheme was to blame the attack on Egypt so that America would join them UNDER DECEPTION in killing Muslims.....that's how far Radical Zionist bastards will go. Howard Kohr, Executive Director of AIPAC said in 2003 "Quietly lobbying congress to approve the use of force in the iraq war was one of AIPAC'S successes over the past year." Please note the operative word "Quietly".......... I regularly see the mangled, burned and traumatized young GIs at our VA hospital: the product of AIPAC'S "Quiet successes" How many more "Quiet successes" are Americans going to die for? I spent 8-9 months hitch hiking the Islamic world and was welcomed with overwhelming hospitality without except. The question I was most frequently asked was "Why do Americans suddenly hate us?" in response to Truman's sudden betrayal of an Islamic world with whom we had good relations until Radical Zionists took over Foreign Policy making. We don't hear about the innocent Muslims the US has killed and tormented over the decades at Israel's behest including the ruthless and criminal Occupation and recent Gaza Massacre . AS a Loyal American and Veteran I am as bothered as much as anyone at the Ft Hood AMERICAN tragedy.. Yes, I'm angry too but have learned by now to wonder, who is to gain from engendering more anti Islamic outrage. Especially after Radical Zionists have been pushing us, with little success, to attack Iran for them; a country that hasn't attacked ANYONE in centuries. Netanyahu welcomed our 9/11 tragedy with unrestrained glee as a windfall for Israel's Radical Zionist Regional Hegemony, Ethnic Cleansing, Land Theft and relentless massacres and atrocities. I'm sure that he and his ilk are just as delighted but "Quietly" so. I learned in boxing, than, when angry, the worst thing is to "Swing Wild". The same Radical Zionists who have killed, exploited, manipulated and deceived us for 60 years want us to "swing wild" at Muslims for their gain. Please read the following before falling for another Radical Zionist deception: http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php... http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php... Remember that Americans on the USS Liberty were massacred with OUR weaponry, Israel received its usual billions that year, has successfully silenced OUR GOVERNMENT since 1967 and will stoop to ANY level to sacrifice American blood and resources. Now THAT'S a ruthless, cold blooded threat to all Loyal Americans AND, IT'S ALL DONE.... as they say, BY WAY OF DECEPTION. Thanks for your time, Gray
|
|
ALEX
Qiryat Ono, Israel
|
Gray wrote: Hello "Military",
I assume you actually are or have served our country (the U.S.) as I have and am not just another trained, subsidized, Hate and War Mongering Hasbara Trolls using a deceptive "username"
For more on those traitorous Parasites who BY WAY OF DECEPTION send our GIs to die for their Regional Hegemony Ethnic Cleansing etc see:
bla bla bla Gray aren't you going to get some new material? i wouldn't waste my time writing the same long messeges again and again for the 100th time. but i guess when you just copy and paste it from anti israel folder its not that much work. so the arabs keep wondering why america hates them but what we are wondering is why do you hate america and the american people?
|
|
Deb
Cromwell, CT
|
ALEX wrote: <quoted text>
aren't you going to get some new material? i wouldn't waste my time writing the same long messeges again and again for the 100th time. but i guess when you just copy and paste it from anti israel folder its not that much work.
so the arabs keep wondering why america hates them but what we are wondering is why do you hate america and the american people? Kind of like anti-uzi (from other site)- posts are so long they're too much bother to read.....
|
|
ABN Ortiz
Chicago, IL
|
Mr Gray, I entered the US Army in Sep 73. I've been following the middle East since then, but not like you. I appreciate your insight. It just reenforced my veiw of the state of isreal and the american-jewish lobby. How about something about how american-jews going to isreal and doing time in the IDF and returning to the US for protection? Is there a list one these individuals and are they working in sensitive area in our government? The Media news caster; who are they and what is their link to the american-jewish lobby?
|
|
Deb
Cromwell, CT
|
Judged:
1
ABN Ortiz wrote: Mr Gray, I entered the US Army in Sep 73. I've been following the middle East since then, but not like you. I appreciate your insight. It just reenforced my veiw of the state of isreal and the american-jewish lobby. How about something about how american-jews going to isreal and doing time in the IDF and returning to the US for protection? Is there a list one these individuals and are they working in sensitive area in our government? The Media news caster; who are they and what is their link to the american-jewish lobby? translate please
|
|
Raymond
Vauvert, France
|
Of course!! the Jews controlling greater Palistine don't want peace!! While the Zionist lobby in the US continues to prop them up, why should they!! Thier plan is to drive all non jews from Greater Palistine. Its called RACISM. The US has a population of about 2% Jews with 98% control over US foriegn policy. Wake up my American friends, take back your Country. I remember when Americans were admired. Zionist control has nothing to do with the interests of the American people. Thier loyalty is elsewhere.
|
|
Charlie Rangel
Philadelphia, PA
|
france has a lot of immigrant moshlems running around unsupervised, burning cars, raping, etc france, it's too late this time we won;t be there when you need us
|
Joined: May 20, 2008
Comments: 905
Miami Fl.
ISP:
Fpo, AP
|
Gray wrote: Hello "Military", I assume you actually are or have served our country (the U.S.) as I have and am not just another trained, subsidized, Hate and War Mongering Hasbara Trolls using a deceptive "username" For more on those traitorous Parasites who BY WAY OF DECEPTION send our GIs to die for their Regional Hegemony Ethnic Cleansing etc see: blah blah blah I agree, Radical ANYTHING is dangerous to the US only Radical Zionists have been successfully deceiving Americans into Hating and Killing Muslims for decades and deliberately killing Americans in the process as far back as the Lavon Affair in the 1950s _ They deliberately massacred 34 American GIs on the Liberty and tried to kill them all be even STRAFING THE LIFEBOATS hoping for no witnesses. AIPAC's Radical Zionist clout is so powerful that they prevented an honest Full Scale Congressional Investigation to occur..........TO THIS DAY. Their Scheme was to blame the attack on Egypt so that America would join them UNDER DECEPTION in killing Muslims.....that's how far Radical Zionist bastards will go. Howard Kohr, Executive Director of AIPAC said in 2003 "Quietly lobbying congress to approve the use of force in the iraq war was one of AIPAC'S successes over the past year." Please note the operative word "Quietly".......... I regularly see the mangled, burned and traumatized young GIs at our VA hospital: the product of AIPAC'S "Quiet successes" How many more "Quiet successes" are Americans going to die for? I spent 8-9 months hitch hiking the Islamic world and was welcomed with overwhelming hospitality without except. The question I was most frequently asked was "Why do Americans suddenly hate us?" in response to Truman's sudden betrayal of an Islamic world with whom we had good relations until Radical Zionists took over Foreign Policy making. We don't hear about the innocent Muslims the US has killed and tormented over the decades at Israel's behest including the ruthless and criminal Occupation and recent Gaza Massacre . AS a Loyal American and Veteran I am as bothered as much as anyone at the Ft Hood AMERICAN tragedy.. Yes, I'm angry too but have learned by now to wonder, who is to gain from engendering more anti Islamic outrage. Especially after Radical Zionists have been pushing us, with little success, to attack Iran for them; a country that hasn't attacked ANYONE in centuries. Netanyahu welcomed our 9/11 tragedy with unrestrained glee as a windfall for Israel's Radical Zionist Regional Hegemony, Ethnic Cleansing, Land Theft and relentless massacres and atrocities. I'm sure that he and his ilk are just as delighted but "Quietly" so. I learned in boxing, than, when angry, the worst thing is to "Swing Wild". The same Radical Zionists who have killed, exploited, manipulated and deceived us for 60 years want us to "swing wild" at Muslims for their gain. Please read the following before falling for another Radical Zionist deception: http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php... http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php... Remember that Americans on the USS Liberty were massacred with OUR weaponry, Israel received its usual billions that year, has successfully silenced OUR GOVERNMENT since 1967 and will stoop to ANY level to sacrifice American blood and resources. Now THAT'S a ruthless, cold blooded threat to all Loyal Americans AND, IT'S ALL DONE.... as they say, BY WAY OF DECEPTION. Thanks for your time, Gray I know of no US Vets who bad mouth my nation and allies as you do. Therefore, have reservations whether you are a vet or not. Paratrooper? Its unfortunate there is no way to verify your claim. So be it. I dont believe you are a vet and instead believe you are a just paid troll. Not hating on you , just calling BS.
|
|
|
|
qwert
Kungälv, Sweden
|
|
|
Raymond
Vauvert, France
|
Charlie Rangel wrote: france has a lot of immigrant moshlems running around unsupervised, burning cars, raping, etc
france, it's too late
this time we won;t be there when you need us You were never there in the first place!! Took years for the US to decide who to support! Hitler or French/British empire. If America had not sat on the fence for three years in WW11, millions of lives would have been saved, including jews. As for muslim hatred! What can I say? foxnews/Fort Hood! LMAO
|
|
Gray
Sterling, VA
|
ABN Ortiz wrote: Mr Gray, I entered the US Army in Sep 73. I've been following the middle East since then, but not like you. I appreciate your insight. It just reenforced my veiw of the state of isreal and the american-jewish lobby. How about something about how american-jews going to isreal and doing time in the IDF and returning to the US for protection? Is there a list one these individuals and are they working in sensitive area in our government? The Media news caster; who are they and what is their link to the american-jewish lobby? Hello ABN Ortiz, I'm happy to help but am pressed for time at the moment. Most of the "Deceive America into continue sacrificing OUR blood and resources by killing all those Evil Muslims” crowd; The Israel uber Alles, pro Settlement, pro Ethnic Cleansing, pro War Crime etc" crowd etc are paid or subsidized ,trained, equipped with Megaphone Software etc etc by the most extensive, sophisticated, highly funded (through Israel's Foreign Ministry) International Propaganda Industry the world has known, They’re pretty much the same mentality of that "Huge Torchlight Parade" crowd of the '30s and '40s but slicker internet savvy and ENORMOUSLY deceptive. ‘BY WAY OF DECEPTION” is not just Mossad’s motto See below: http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/israel... http://www.redress.cc/palestine/slittlewood20... http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/... So, most all the "Alexes", Zinfabs" "American Bob"s "Kentucky Pete"s “Country Roads” are directed, trained, scripted etc from this Worldwide Internet Propaganda Industry. They do not accurately represent the number of people for fanatic Zionist hate crimes and megalomaniacal racist atrocities. First, I'm not anti Israel, anti Jewish etc etc. Like countless courageous Jews and Israelis,(B’tselem, Jewish Voice for Peace etc) I only want an Equitable MId East Policy and punishment for Israel's innumerable War Criminals, murderous Settler fanatics, Enforcement of ALL UN Resolutions, especially those, old UN Resolutions #194,#242,#338 and a Ferrari for Christmas. But for only one site explaining this disastrous “Dual” Citizen threat: http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html That line about being loyal to both countries at the same time is popular, but, hardly honest; Try telling your wife “But I love you both just as much....” and see where it gets you. Also, I just ran across these: http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php... http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php... Our current War on Islam is, primarily the work of traitorous Israel First Policy Makers. We had excellent relations with the Islamic world until Truman sold out to Israeli lobbies. Again, I don’t get paid to do this full time so have to close for now but will respond more full later. Again, it’s NOT a Jews/Israel vs non Jews/non Israelis......it’s about criminal, suicidal and fatally flawed policy, Justice and Equal Treatment of All nations in the region. Thanks, Gray (also ABN, many decades, injuries and wounds ago (1969-’72)
|
|
Gray
Sterling, VA
|
Mine Eyes Have Seen wrote: <quoted text>
I know of no US Vets who bad mouth my nation and allies as you do. Therefore, have reservations whether you are a vet or not. Paratrooper? Its unfortunate there is no way to verify your claim. So be it. I dont believe you are a vet and instead believe you are a just paid troll. Not hating on you , just calling BS. So, you're unable to disprove the documented Facts I presented becaust they're true, You could only come up with insults and personal attacks....... Is THAT the best you can do in defending Israel's crimes?
|
|
Gray
Sterling, VA
|
Mine Eyes Have Seen wrote: <quoted text>
I know of no US Vets who bad mouth my nation and allies as you do. Therefore, have reservations whether you are a vet or not. Paratrooper? Its unfortunate there is no way to verify your claim. So be it. I dont believe you are a vet and instead believe you are a just paid troll. Not hating on you , just calling BS. BY saying that I'm insulting ".....my nation and its allies" I don't mean to insult Israel; the whole nation. I am only sickened by its criminal policies, fanatic Zionist Terrorists etc. I don't think Israel has any real Allies. its lobbies just run our government.......... for now. Being critical of the policies and those behind them in MY country (the US) is more patriotic than watching it blunder on more deeply into sacrificing MORE American lives for Israel's Regional Hegemony, Ethnic Cleansing etc etc Why don't you move to YOUR nation?
|
|
Black Zion
United States
|
Gray wrote: <quoted text>
BY saying that I'm insulting ".....my nation and its allies"
I don't mean to insult Israel; the whole nation. I am only sickened by its criminal policies, fanatic Zionist Terrorists etc. I don't think Israel has any real Allies. its lobbies just run our government.......... for now.
Being critical of the policies and those behind them in MY country (the US) is more patriotic than watching it blunder on more deeply into sacrificing MORE American lives for Israel's Regional Hegemony, Ethnic Cleansing etc etc
Why don't you move to YOUR nation? To hear you talk FANATIC muslim terrorists are ok?
|
|
Gray
Sterling, VA
|
Black Zion wrote: <quoted text>
To hear you talk FANATIC muslim terrorists are ok? Now, honestly; I've never seen or read anything from you while enjoying this forum and, apparently, you haven't read any of my stuff. I make every effort to post honest and accurate information and document it as frequently as possible. I've said MANY times that I am not Anti Jewish or anti Israel. Like countless courageous, ethical, compassionate and Justice driven Jews, I recognize that Zionist Fanatics are far more dangerous to the region because they manage to extort billions in US aid, weaponry at the same time their Propaganda Industry and US media control relentlessly drives Americans to die for "Greater Israel", successfully lead the US to a lie based war against Iraq and are doing the same with Iran. When Fanatical Muslims gain control of the US government and its War making decision process.... THEN you'll hear me much more outspoken against Fanatical Muslims. I hitch hiked and lived around in the Islamic world to find out if they were as intrinsically evil as our Ziono-Media relentlessly portrays....... Guess What...... I didn't encounter a single hostile experience; just generosity and hospitality. There WERE NO Fanatical Muslims attacking America until Zionist Lobbies bought Truman and lead America to torment them ever since. I'm more concerned with Avi Lieberman's threats to use Israeli nukes against Gaza and God knows who else But.... Even more alarming is the fact that so many Israelis seem OK with the Idea and Overwhelmingly support this genocidal madman. Israel is the ONLY "democracy" to REPEATEDLY elect IDOLIZE proven and documented Mass Murdering Professional Terrorists to the highest office in the land (Sharon, Shamir, Begin etc). What does THAT say about a nations mentality? So, we've got a nation RUN by Genocidal Butchers from Begin to Lieberman with an established Nuclear Arsenal that is rapidly becoming a Fascist Theocracy that Controls America AND...... A Rag Tag, small percentage of justifiably angry Muslims (Many of whom are legitimately resisting ruthless Israeli Occupation Extermination and Expulsion) with small arms ARE THE WORLD'S GREATEST THREAT. Israel is a potentially great asset to the world and includes many courageous, compassionate, brilliant, ethical and Justice seeking Jews who feel the way I do. I contribute to B'tselem, jewish Voice for Peace and praise their bravery in the face of a growing number of subsidized, heavily armed, Megalomaniacs (Settler_Psychos ,Baruch Goldstein disciples etc etc. Unfortunately, this nuclear armed Megalomaniacal, Zionazi, War Mongering Element is eclipsing the sane and rational Israelis. The same nation that is so despicably bloodthirsty deliberately as to massacre 34 American GIs on the USS Liberty to deceive us into killing more Muslims is America's REAL THREAT. BY WAY OF DECEPTION....more than just Mossad's motto; a National Anthem Today Some examples: http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/israel... http://www.redress.cc/palestine/slittlewood20... http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/...
|
|
Ehud
Israel
|
Why all the world mad at Israel on "not wanting peace". for peace with the arabs, we the only ones that need to give up on something... For peace with the Palestinians we need to give up on Jehuda and Sumoria and East Jerusalem, East jerusalem includs the acient city that built by Jews and belong to Jews. The acient city includs the Western Wall the most important thing to the Jews. Jehuda and Sumoria it's where most of the things in the bible happened. For peace with Syria we need to give up The Golan Heights, that includs the East Kinneret, the kineeret it's Israel's only water source, and we have big water problem, so if we will give up on east of it so we will have huge water problem. The Golan Heights includs the Hermon Mountain, An snowing mountain, one of the most beautifull places in Israel and the only ski park in Israel. And we need to kick all the settlers of their houses, over 300,000 people will be kicked of their houses if we will do peace. What the Arabs need to give up? nothing they only going to own. Ans so easy to the world to tell Israel to make peace and give up on our land. I sure if it's was them they wasn't agree. If Obama so want the Palestinians will have a country, why he can't give them from his own land? instead of forcing us... Bibi showed we not the world's biatch, and we will do whatever we want with the Peace, if it's not good for us right now so we won't do it. Israel gave up Sinai Peninsula in order to make peace with Egypt. Sinai it'd place in size of Israel.
|
|
Joined: May 20, 2008
Comments: 905
Miami Fl.
ISP:
Fpo, AP
|
Ehud wrote: Why all the world mad at Israel on "not wanting peace".
for peace with the arabs, we the only ones that need to give up on something...
For peace with the Palestinians we need to give up on Jehuda and Sumoria and East Jerusalem,
East jerusalem includs the acient city that built by Jews and belong to Jews.
The acient city includs the Western Wall the most important thing to the Jews.
Jehuda and Sumoria it's where most of the things in the bible happened.
For peace with Syria we need to give up The Golan Heights, that includs the East Kinneret, the kineeret it's Israel's only water source,
and we have big water problem, so if we will give up on east of it so we will have huge water problem.
The Golan Heights includs the Hermon Mountain,
An snowing mountain, one of the most beautifull places in Israel and the only ski park in Israel.
And we need to kick all the settlers of their houses, over 300,000 people will be kicked of their houses if we will do peace.
What the Arabs need to give up?
nothing they only going to own.
Ans so easy to the world to tell Israel to make peace and give up on our land.
I sure if it's was them they wasn't agree.
If Obama so want the Palestinians will have a country, why he can't give them from his own land?
instead of forcing us...
Bibi showed we not the world's biatch, and we will do whatever we want with the Peace, if it's not good for us right now so we won't do it.
Israel gave up Sinai Peninsula in order to make peace with Egypt. Sinai it'd place in size of Israel. Quite accurate.
|
|
ALEX
Qiryat Ono, Israel
|
Gray wrote: <quoted text>
I'm more concerned with Avi Lieberman's threats to use Israeli nukes against Gaza and God knows who else
But....
Even more alarming is the fact that so many Israelis seem OK with the Idea and Overwhelmingly support this genocidal madman.
Israel is the ONLY "democracy" to REPEATEDLY elect IDOLIZE proven and documented Mass Murdering Professional Terrorists to the highest office in the land (Sharon, Shamir, Begin etc).
What does THAT say about a nations mentality?
So, we've got a nation RUN by Genocidal Butchers from Begin to Lieberman with an established Nuclear Arsenal that is rapidly becoming a Fascist Theocracy that Controls America
AND...... when did liberman threat to use nukes against gaza? you might think americans are stupid but israelis are not as stupid as to attack with nukes a city that is so close to its own towns. please show us a of liberman saying that not a link of someone heard someone think that liberman might thought about that just like the so called testimonys of IDF soldiers. so liberman is a "Genocidal Butcher" who exectly did he kill ? pnly the hypocritical racist views that arabs shouldn't be treated the same way as israelis can make you think that libermans plans are not right. liberman asked to move arab israeli towns as part as the new palestine in exchange for the land taken for the settelment blocs. and for this the world called him racist for wanted palestinian citys to be a part of palestine. that is the best solution possible, but i guess its ok for jews to be taken out of their home by force but not ok for arabs to stay in their homes just go under their own peoples control and change ID.
|
|
ALEX
Qiryat Ono, Israel
|
Gray wrote: <quoted text>
There WERE NO Fanatical Muslims attacking America until Zionist Lobbies bought Truman and lead America to torment them ever since. and there were no germans attacking americans until you started attacking them in WW1 and WW2 so i guess by your logic the nazis were right and you shouldn't have supported the allies.
|
|
Joined: May 20, 2008
Comments: 905
Miami Fl.
ISP:
Fpo, AP
|
Gray wrote: <quoted text>
BY saying that I'm insulting ".....my nation and its allies"
I don't mean to insult Israel; the whole nation. I am only sickened by its criminal policies, fanatic Zionist Terrorists etc. I don't think Israel has any real Allies. its lobbies just run our government.......... for now.
Being critical of the policies and those behind them in MY country (the US) is more patriotic than watching it blunder on more deeply into sacrificing MORE American lives for Israel's Regional Hegemony, Ethnic Cleansing etc etc
Why don't you move to YOUR nation? The USA is my country. I doubt its yours. Israel is a close ally of the USA and most western powers, too bad you dont approve. Israel has solid treaties grounded in mutual respect with Egypt and Jordan, Israel has a seat in the UN; I bet that just infuriates you. Israel is a free democratic, secular nation surrounded by horrible, abusive, draconian, islamic dictatorships that subjugate women and children and traffic in slaves! No doubt these facts dont trouble you one bit. "fanatic zionist terrorists" Do you even understand what zionism was/is? Most dont, you dont appear to either. Factually The Israeli lobby PALES in comparison to the lobby efforts and funding received from Islamic countries, do some research, dont make it up as you go. Rattle off a dozen or so fanatical Zionist terrorists, as you put it , who have murdered Americans to advance their religious goals. I look forward to your detailed list. I understand you would rather support and be an apologist for the death cult Islam than a free democratic, prosperous nation, Israel, thats your choice.
|
|
|
Judge it!
Search the Middle East Forum:
Pisces
