Family tangled up in immigration system, divided between two countries

There was a place near Rosarito in the Baja California just South of Tijuana. Many Americans had spent their life savings to build houses for their retirement. The community was their and had been built and lived in it for many years. Many of these people could not afford to restart and build a new home because of their age. They had bet the farm, and were set to live out their lives worry free. Well many years later someone comes in and says that they had some interest in the property, and through the court system in Mexico, they caused all the people who had invested their money to have to leave their houses, and relinquish them. These people did not even do anything criminal. At the least the courts could have asked them to pay for the property they built on so they would not loose their houses. But that mnany years later you knew it had to be a Mexican scam. Yes, they happen in the USA also. But the point is things like this happen to everyone. So these decent, law abiding people who acted in good faith were thrown out by the government of Mexico. It made my blood boil to read about it. But if they had done something illegaly I would have felt no pitty. I do not in this case either. this person did it illegaly. So suck it up and move on. People are suffering everyday, and not because they did anything illegal. But they move on. Better to spend your time trying to think about what you need to do in Mexico to bring your family together. Not see how you can skirt aroung a law that you knowingly broke. I do believe the government in the USA is partly to blame for a lot of it. They make it really clear in Mexico that you cannot be here illegaly, as a matter of fact in evry country I know of. But be thankful for everything you got or took from it. I think it is easier to start a business here in Mexico. Not nearly as many restrictions. But I have an education, can think better, write better, and have the drive to succeed. I am doing it on my own, legally, and here with no support from anyone, and I am very American and very white. Use your brain!

Concerned wrote:

There was a place near Rosarito in the Baja California just South of Tijuana. Many Americans had spent their life savings to build houses for their retirement. The community was their and had been built and lived in it for many years. Many of these people could not afford to restart and build a new home because of their age. They had bet the farm, and were set to live out their lives worry free. Well many years later someone comes in and says that they had some interest in the property, and through the court system in Mexico, they caused all the people who had invested their money to have to leave their houses, and relinquish them. These people did not even do anything criminal. At the least the courts could have asked them to pay for the property they built on so they would not loose their houses. But that mnany years later you knew it had to be a Mexican scam. Yes, they happen in the USA also. But the point is things like this happen to everyone. So these decent, law abiding people who acted in good faith were thrown out by the government of Mexico. It made my blood boil to read about it. But if they had done something illegaly I would have felt no pitty. I do not in this case either. this person did it illegaly. So suck it up and move on. People are suffering everyday, and not because they did anything illegal. But they move on. Better to spend your time trying to think about what you need to do in Mexico to bring your family together. Not see how you can skirt aroung a law that you knowingly broke. I do believe the government in the USA is partly to blame for a lot of it. They make it really clear in Mexico that you cannot be here illegaly, as a matter of fact in evry country I know of. But be thankful for everything you got or took from it. I think it is easier to start a business here in Mexico. Not nearly as many restrictions. But I have an education, can think better, write better, and have the drive to succeed. I am doing it on my own, legally, and here with no support from anyone, and I am very American and very white. Use your brain!

The main restriction in Mexico to opening up your own business is how deep your pockets are, if you can afford to pay the mordida, then you're fine, if not, say goodbye to your cabeza.

OneRepublic wrote:

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The main restriction in Mexico to opening up your own business is how deep your pockets are, if you can afford to pay the mordida, then you're fine, if not, say goodbye to your cabeza.

There is a lot of truth to that. But if you are in the situation that these people are in I would think they would want to try to make a living in Mexico. I have family here that is Mexican. Married into through my son. Beautiful granddaughter. They are doing very well! They have never had to pay extortion or been threatened to pay it. They have been broken into and robbed at gun point. Welcome to Mexico! They seem to mess with US citizens less. It seems that when they do the FBI, CIA, or DEA gets involved and they seem to always catch the perpetrators. Smarter in reality if they stick to hitting the Mexican citizens. Because they are less apt to get caught for many reasons. Welcome to Mexico!

The husband is 27 and they have a 12 yr old daughter? Try the legal way. All these sob stories make me laugh at what the politicians are calling the best and the brightest. These people are no the poster family for the Dream Act. They are the anti reason

Concerned wrote:

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There is a lot of truth to that. But if you are in the situation that these people are in I would think they would want to try to make a living in Mexico. I have family here that is Mexican. Married into through my son. Beautiful granddaughter. They are doing very well! They have never had to pay extortion or been threatened to pay it. They have been broken into and robbed at gun point. Welcome to Mexico! They seem to mess with US citizens less. It seems that when they do the FBI, CIA, or DEA gets involved and they seem to always catch the perpetrators. Smarter in reality if they stick to hitting the Mexican citizens. Because they are less apt to get caught for many reasons. Welcome to Mexico!

No thanks, my family in Chihuaha who had businesses had to close them down because of the threats of kidnapping, extortion, and general corruption. A few have moved to the US to reopen their businesses, it's taken years to get everything in order and do it the right way, but they're moving along just fine, and they don't have to worry about their kids being kidnapped.

Joe wrote:

<quoted text>Just another sham green card marriage. When they wife would rather give up her "husband", and stay in the USA, it's not a real marriage. It's a marriage of convenience only. Nothing prevents these women from going to Mexico and keeping their families together. They simply do not love their spouse much at all. Or they love money much more.

True. I would move to Mexico if thats where my man was.

OneRepublic wrote:

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No thanks, my family in Chihuaha who had businesses had to close them down because of the threats of kidnapping, extortion, and general corruption. A few have moved to the US to reopen their businesses, it's taken years to get everything in order and do it the right way, but they're moving along just fine, and they don't have to worry about their kids being kidnapped.

It sounds like you may not have a choice. From what I have seen these cases are never won by the illegal immigrants. I had a friend from Cameroon. His brother was two weeks late in filing for his Visa. He went inot file but they detained him on the spot. They deported him and he was not even a criminal, here came here on a visa. His other brother Ibo is still in the USA. This is what is done in any country. So if it were somewhere else besides the USA you could be in the same dilema. But people look to skirt the system and do things illegaly, and people pay the price for doing so. Hate to dash your dreams but you need to look beyond your attorney. Start making plans to make it somewhere else. I had a business in the USA. I fell in love with a Mexican woman and we got married. She and her children went to the consulate in Ciudad Juarez to apply for a visa. They were turned down for the second time. I had really not much of a choice if I wanted to be with her and her kids. So I shut down my business and moved to Mexico. I am very protective of her children, and I would not separate from them at any cost. You choose to be away from your family. Very sad. Nothing is worth that if you really LOVE them.

Concerned wrote:

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It sounds like you may not have a choice. From what I have seen these cases are never won by the illegal immigrants. I had a friend from Cameroon. His brother was two weeks late in filing for his Visa. He went inot file but they detained him on the spot. They deported him and he was not even a criminal, here came here on a visa. His other brother Ibo is still in the USA. This is what is done in any country. So if it were somewhere else besides the USA you could be in the same dilema. But people look to skirt the system and do things illegaly, and people pay the price for doing so. Hate to dash your dreams but you need to look beyond your attorney. Start making plans to make it somewhere else. I had a business in the USA. I fell in love with a Mexican woman and we got married. She and her children went to the consulate in Ciudad Juarez to apply for a visa. They were turned down for the second time. I had really not much of a choice if I wanted to be with her and her kids. So I shut down my business and moved to Mexico. I am very protective of her children, and I would not separate from them at any cost. You choose to be away from your family. Very sad. Nothing is worth that if you really LOVE them.

Interesting story there, but my immediate family is in the US, and we were born and raised here, the Mexican family are cousins, they can live where they choose, no need to sponsor them. I don't need an immigration attorney.

i see no problem in the story other than the whining of criminals.

once here illegally and caught that should prove unfit to ever return legally.

Don't worry, she'll find another guy too. If she is having trouble making ends meet, how did she make them meet when she had an illegal husband working off and on and 2 additional children. Those of you who feel sorry for them can make donations. It's stupid to have children you can't take care of

Race Car mom thumbs up.

Where he messed up coming to the US illegally in the first place.

samantha wrote:

excuse me but im the gurl the 8 year gurl and id like for people to plez stop tlkin trash my family tried as hard as they can and chouldnt do crap about it im 11 now and i still think about theese things

Yeah they tried hard for sure -- tried hard to break the law. Go back and stay there.

any update on what ever happened with this case? Did the man come back to this country? Did the wife go meet them in mexico?

Race car mom is a DWL criminal apologist.

we need more of those folks with fake licenses doing this. does a better job then the gov on the issue.

i for one do not care what anyone does to get an illegal aliens to leave and if they can get them to pay them for it the better.

what a great idea commit fraud on an illegal aliens collect money from the.talk about paying for your own deportation.

should get a medal for such great thinking.

what some of these privileged iduots dont ynderstand us that THEIR VERY OWN PRECIOUS ANCESTORS (incestors)DID THE SAME THING. sailed over here infected america with self-rightousness and diseases. took land that wasnt theirs and dug up all the gold they could find tricking the already existing govt that they were here for noble reasons. karmas a bitxh aint it?

get over yourselves. hopefully more mexicans ca flood certain backwood parts of america and generate some braincells in the family trees that tend to grow straight up. dont be afraid of the almond eyed olive skinned people. they can help. maybe you can finally attend a fifth grade graduation.

dukeforever wrote:

what some of these privileged iduots dont ynderstand us that THEIR VERY OWN PRECIOUS ANCESTORS (incestors)DID THE SAME THING. sailed over here infected america with self-rightousness and diseases. took land that wasnt theirs and dug up all the gold they could find tricking the already existing govt that they were here for noble reasons. karmas a bitxh aint it?

What don't you understand? Before there were laws in place, that's what people did. They conquered lands and took them over. Even Native Americans did that to each other -- conquered lands, took women, food, etc. when they "won" the fight. It's how it was done. Once immigration laws were in place, people came through legal ports of entry such as Ellis Island and that wasn't some party. Not everyone was approved or allowed to stay, either. And no one whined about separating families. They accepted their fate. People now are a bunch of whining babies.

Please post your proof of anyone tricking the government. LMAO! You sound really stupid. Much of the land was already commissioned by Great Britain, and they sent people to populate and build the land.

Mexico stole land from Spain. So what? It's how it was done back then! Deal with it. Now we have laws in place. Get with the program. This is 2012, not 1400 or 1500 or even 1600.

dukeforever wrote:

get over yourselves. hopefully more mexicans ca flood certain backwood parts of america and generate some braincells in the family trees that tend to grow straight up. dont be afraid of the almond eyed olive skinned people. they can help. maybe you can finally attend a fifth grade graduation.

LMAO! This is hilarious! Mexicans can generate braincells? Really? I think not. The majority of the illegal aliens here are Mexican and they are low/no skilled people.

Mexicans' dropout rate is at an all time high. And you think they will generate braincells? I can't stop laughing.

http://depts.washington.edu/uweek/archives/20...

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School dropout rates among immigrant teen-agers are most severe among students of Mexican descent, particularly those who migrated to the United States after starting school in Mexico. Nearly 28 percent of Mexican immigrants ages 15–17 were not enrolled in high school, according to a study of census data by a UW demographer.

The high Mexican dropout rate is a serious concern because more than one-quarter of all immigrants to the United States come from Mexico. The non-enrollment rate for Mexican immigrants who arrived as teen-agers is even higher, 40 percent, said Charles Hirschman, a UW sociology professor and author of the study.

Immigrant success stories in school include children of Afro-Caribbean descent and, not surprisingly, Asians, who are sometimes stereotyped as educational high achievers.

“Afro-Caribbean children — Jamaicans, Haitians and West Indians — resemble Asians in terms of their above average enrollment rates. They are less likely to drop out than other groups even though many Caribbean immigrants live in central cities and may encounter discrimination because they are black,” said Hirschman.

The study shows there are strong family and socioeconomic factors that influence school enrollment rates. He said a significant share of some immigrant groups’ higher dropout rates could be explained by poorly educated parents, the absence of parents and inner-city residence

Hispanics from Puerto Rico, Cuba and the Dominican Republic are the other groups that have high dropout rates, about double that of native-born Americans. Caribbean Hispanic children tend to wind up in metropolitan urban schools where dropout risks are greater and they have fewer family resources to support them.
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