North South East West Macedonians: Greeks

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Fillip II Reincarnated wrote:

Real Greeks are Macedonians, the Northern ones.
Northern Macedonians are the real true Greeks.
We want to unite with the real Greeks of Greece, not the goat herding Turco Greeks from Asia.

skopoianoFagos wrote:

FYROM is approx 60% Bulgarian and the rest Albanian. The so called Mkedonski language is Bulgarian. FYROM was never a part of ancient Macedonia.
Now with the way the skopians are acting; they are basically making sure that their country will eventually be destroyed and annexed into Albania. They act in a rogue manner. They insult Greece and then demand we vote them into NATO and EU.
Well this is not going to happen. Greece will veto FYROM until the Albanians (orifginal non slavic inhabitants of that geographical area) decide to make FYROM into another Kosovo.
The Greeks (original non slavic inhabitants of that geographic area)have FYROM by the noose and allw e have to do to hang FYROM is use our second VETO!

Greek History wrote:

Still desperate :)

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Metodija wrote:

Macedonia and Turkey 4 ever!

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Dojran wrote:

North,west,east and south all Macedonians but no Greeks.
I am buying property only from Greeks and prosfyges from Turkey in AEGEAN MACEDONIA.

lilalo wrote:

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You go back to Asia search your property and abstain from trying to de-hellenise the Macedonians,disrespectful,lowl ife, slav boxhead scum bag!

Nick the Greek wrote:

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2 009/11/finally-structure-in-ha plogroup-r1a.html
There are also other useful conclusions that we may draw from this study:
1. The presence of R1a in Scandinavia does not reflect any sort of Balto-Slavic admixture, as R-M458 is lacking in them. This, coupled with the discovery of R1a chromosomes in ancient remains from Eulau and Lichtenstein in German territory suggests that R1a was present among ancient Germanic speakers. However, there is also structure in R-M458 frequency in Germany itself, with lowest percentages reached in the north and west; this suggests an admixture with Baltic and/or Slavic elements in present-day Germany itself.
2. In several Balkan samples the frequency of R-M458 ranges between 0-12% which is at most a third of its maximum frequency, suggesting that the extent of Slavic admixture in the Balkans is upper-bounded by about 1/3. The complete absence of R-M458 in Italy and its sub-1% representation in Anatolia further support the idea that R-M458 in the Balkans is of medieval and later origins.
3. The samples from Greece (N=263), Macedonian Greeks (N=57), and Crete (N=361) have R-M458 frequency of 4.2, 8.8, and 2.2%. Assuming a frequency of R-M458 at 36.4% in ancestral Slavs, as in south Poland, the admixture estimates are 11.5, 24, 6%. These should probably be interpreted as upper limits (plus statistical margins) because the highest present-day frequency of R-M458 is probably lower than that in early Slavs.
4. Interestingly, the Slavs of FYROM have an R-M458 frequency of 3.8%, barely different from that of Greeks at large, suggesting that (i) the claims of some Greek nationalists that they Slavs of FYROM are newcomers to the Balkans are wrong, just as (ii) the claim of some FYROMian nationalists that they are markedly different from Greeks are wrong. The actual truth is that the Slavs of FYROM are largely of old Balkan (pre-Slavic) stock who adopted a non-Balkan Slavic language, just as the modern Turks are largely of old Anatolian (pre-Turkish) stock who adopted a non-Anatolian Turkic language.
European Journal of Human Genetics doi:10.1038/ejhg.2009.194
http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/vaop/ncurr...
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Macedonians......Northern or Southern, Eastern or Western, are Closer than Most of us Care to Mention
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TN...
Who are the Slavicized Greeks of the Balkans!

Nick the Greek wrote:

4. Interestingly, the Slavs of FYROM have an R-M458 frequency of 3.8%, barely different from that of Greeks at large, suggesting that (i) the claims of some Greek nationalists that they Slavs of FYROM are newcomers to the Balkans are wrong, just as (ii) the claim of some FYROMian nationalists that they are markedly different from Greeks are wrong. The actual truth is that the Slavs of FYROM are largely of old Balkan (pre-Slavic) stock who adopted a non-Balkan Slavic language, just as the modern Turks are largely of old Anatolian (pre-Turkish) stock who adopted a non-Anatolian Turkic language.
http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/vaop/ncurr...
Conclusion 1: Old Balkan (Pre-Slavic) Indigenous population = Greek Hellenic or Derivative.
Conclusion 2: Old Balkan (Pre-Slavic) Indigenous populations that Adopted a NoN Balkan Slavic Language = Slavicization.
Slavic Genticist's have proven beyond a Reasonable doubt.....Certain portions of FYRoM's population carry Indigenous Autochthonous genetic marker's, not that disimilar to that of the Modern Greek population.
Certain portions of FYRoM's population are More Greek Hellenic than They care to Mention!
Personal Conclusion: Re-Hellenization...get back to base, It's the Only Way of Sharing the History and Heritage of the Greeks. The door Remains Open, Reject Slavdom and Return back to Fold. You Speak the Language of the Slavs, Not because you are Slavic but because your Greek Hellenic Ancestor's got Slavicized....probably by Force!
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TN...
Who are the Slavicized Greeks of the Balkans!

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Dojran wrote:

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So how much do you want for your property????(not the stolen one, you will give that back to the rightful owners the Macedonians for free.), I hope you done a good job in the garden, I like them nice and tidy.
p.s does the property come furnished or unfurnished??

Hairamess wrote:

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We are discussing ~4-6% of the genetic material in the Balkans (R-M458) is that not too small a sample to make these generalized conclusions of the remaining ~94-96% of the population?
Or am I reading the results wrong?