The REPUBLIC of AEGEAN MACEDONIA..

OguzTolga wrote:

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hehehehe
answer me,why can't you show a single,piece od ancient stone,paper or anything with ""GREEK""w ord on it..hehehehehe
Yes we know all written on ""piece of dried shits"""hehehe What a clown nation

Apollo wrote:

<quoted text>TI LES VRE MALAKA??
YOU ARE THIEVES OF STOLEN GREEK LAND,ARMENIAN LAND,AND KURDISH LAND.
FACK OFF!!!IDIOT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
MALAKA-SLAVO-TURKO,WE DO HAVE TO PROVE YOU ANYTHING,YOU NEED TO TELL US,WHAT YOU FACKING DOING HERE???
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Apollo wrote:

<quoted text>TI LES VRE MALAKA??
YOU ARE THIEVES OF STOLEN GREEK LAND,ARMENIAN LAND,AND KURDISH LAND.
FACK OFF!!!IDIOT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
MALAKA-SLAVO-TURKO,WE DO HAVE TO PROVE YOU ANYTHING,YOU NEED TO TELL US,WHAT YOU FACKING DOING HERE???
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

OguzTolga wrote:

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hehehehe
answer me,why can't you show a single,piece od ancient stone,paper or anything with ""GREEK""w ord on it..hehehehehe.....

Istor wrote:

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http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TC...
hahahahaha
MALAKES !!

Apollo wrote:

<quoted text>TI LES VRE MALAKA??
YOU ARE THIEVES OF STOLEN GREEK LAND,ARMENIAN LAND,AND KURDISH LAND.
FACK OFF!!!IDIOT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
MALAKA-SLAVO-TURKO,WE DO HAVE TO PROVE YOU ANYTHING,YOU NEED TO TELL US,WHAT YOU FACKING DOING HERE???
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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OguzTolga wrote:

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See this.A new information about Macedonians..
ancient Greek language is TOTALLY different of the modern greek language who is on of the two greek dialects Katharevousa und Dimotiki START selectet 1976 by linguistic greeks experts ,1976?.
the Greek ancient language is TOTALLY different of the modern greek language and the Greeks must to go in school to understand and to interpret the ancient hellenic language .
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
the MODERN MACEDONIANS UNDERSTANDS 100% the ancient words from ancients Macedonians and TO AS is dont need to go in school to UNDERSTAND oure macedonian language
MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE who for centuries IS not changed .

OguzTolga wrote:

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MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE - THE CORE OF THE PROBLEM
The language used by the ancient Macedonians has been deliberately politicised by Greece.
"As the Macedonians settled the region following the expulsion of existing peoples, they probably introduced their own customs and language(s); there is no evidence that they adapted any existing language, even though they were now in contact with neighboring populations who spoke a variety of Greek and non-Greek tongues."
[It is proper, and even compelling, to expect that the arriving Macedonians already had an existing oral language.]
"The lesson is clear: the use of the Greek language as a form of written expression does not by itself identify the ethnicity of a culture".
"In the Shadow of Olympus -The Emergence of Macedon",
The political aspect of the problem can be assessed trough the following observations/questions:
(1) Why are modern-day Greeks obliged to deny the existence of a separate Macedonian language?
(2) What is the driving force behind such an act?
(3) What degree of association can one assign between language and ethnicity.
A Political
(1) By denying that the ancient Macedonians spoke a separate [non-Greek] language, modern Greeks can:
(1) declare that the ancient Macedonians were Greek speakers, and simplistically conclude that (2) they must also have been ethnically Greek.
(2) The driving force behind such desperate reasoning is Greece's fear of losing the newly-acquired "province of Macedonia.
" If Greece fails to establish that the ancient Macedonians were Greek speakers, or ethnically Greek, then the part of Macedonia which is independent (the Republic of Macedonia) may place a claim on its lost territory and abused population.
Under the Treaty of Bucharest (1913) Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia partitioned Macedonia and distributed it (and its indigenous population) amongst themselves.
Serbia has relinquished control over the Macedonian territory it acquired.
This is an acknowledgement that Macedonia is not "Southern Serbia" and that the partition of Macedonia was not legal to begin with.
Similarly, Macedonia is not "Northern Greece.
" In a broader sense, Greece anticipates that the hands of justice may someday reach for her and demand the return of the "stolen" booty.
(3) This is an issue of enormous importance to modern-day Greeks who are indoctrinated to believe that use of language equals ethnicity.
Furthermore, most Greeks today equate their ethnic identity with the nation state.
As a consequence, the use of a common language would denote a common nationality.
However, the concept of a separate ethnicity within the nation state is completely lost upon them.

OguzTolga wrote:

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MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE - THE CORE OF THE PROBLEM
The language used by the ancient Macedonians has been deliberately politicised by Greece.
"As the Macedonians settled the region following the expulsion of existing peoples, they probably introduced their own customs and language(s); there is no evidence that they adapted any existing language, even though they were now in contact with neighboring populations who spoke a variety of Greek and non-Greek tongues."
[It is proper, and even compelling, to expect that the arriving Macedonians already had an existing oral language.]
"The lesson is clear: the use of the Greek language as a form of written expression does not by itself identify the ethnicity of a culture".
"In the Shadow of Olympus -The Emergence of Macedon",
The political aspect of the problem can be assessed trough the following observations/questions:
(1) Why are modern-day Greeks obliged to deny the existence of a separate Macedonian language?
(2) What is the driving force behind such an act?
(3) What degree of association can one assign between language and ethnicity.
A Political
(1) By denying that the ancient Macedonians spoke a separate [non-Greek] language, modern Greeks can:
(1) declare that the ancient Macedonians were Greek speakers, and simplistically conclude that (2) they must also have been ethnically Greek.
(2) The driving force behind such desperate reasoning is Greece's fear of losing the newly-acquired "province of Macedonia.
" If Greece fails to establish that the ancient Macedonians were Greek speakers, or ethnically Greek, then the part of Macedonia which is independent (the Republic of Macedonia) may place a claim on its lost territory and abused population.
Under the Treaty of Bucharest (1913) Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia partitioned Macedonia and distributed it (and its indigenous population) amongst themselves.
Serbia has relinquished control over the Macedonian territory it acquired.
This is an acknowledgement that Macedonia is not "Southern Serbia" and that the partition of Macedonia was not legal to begin with.
Similarly, Macedonia is not "Northern Greece.
" In a broader sense, Greece anticipates that the hands of justice may someday reach for her and demand the return of the "stolen" booty.
(3) This is an issue of enormous importance to modern-day Greeks who are indoctrinated to believe that use of language equals ethnicity.
Furthermore, most Greeks today equate their ethnic identity with the nation state.
As a consequence, the use of a common language would denote a common nationality.
However, the concept of a separate ethnicity within the nation state is completely lost upon them.

PHILIP THE MACEDONIAN wrote:

Skopians areyugoslavian pseudonation because Macedonians are Greeks since 3000 years!

OguzTolga wrote:

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Macedonians are Greeks since 3000 years but Greeks became Greeks by Brits in 1800.
hehehe
Greeks are liars..
"""To be a Greek for 200years or not to be a Greek,that is the question...""" """

PHILIP THE MACEDONIAN wrote:

<quoted text>Ancient Pella birthland of Alexander the Great
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Macedonia is Hellenic! Not titoistic Fakedonija!!
Ajde turco!
glu glu glu glu

OguzTolga wrote:

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The Lie Detector wrote:

a collapse of gaylada will guarantee a unification of all macedonia...come on greeks what are you waiting for...

Yannis_21 wrote:

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Yes the last tme Greece bunkrupted and collapsed Makedonia was freed.
Perhaps the time has come for the rest to be liberated and return to mother Greece.
I wonder what are we waiting for?

OguzTolga wrote:

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heheheh
In Greece only clocks,fools and Drachma printing machines work""",
hahahaahahahaahah

Yannis_21 wrote:

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Keep that happy thought.

OguzTolga wrote:

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No idiot no.
You are barking to the wrong tree...
Greeks destroyed the Greece with;
1.Klephtokratia of stealing money from their own partner EU members
2.Philotomia of ""heheheh
In Greece only clocks,fools and Drachma printing machines work""",
hahahaahahahaahah
3.Layzness of ""we don't work they have to feed us""idioticty
4.Beeing a ""baseless" ""nation&Country ,economy and History
5.Robbing the Masterminds in EU hehehehei
Tell me idiot thief,
What are going to produce and sell to generate PLUIS USD 1.5Trillion to pay EU debts&Thefts back?
You are a ""handicapped" "nation.
You can not work just steal.
But this time you have been caught in act by German KERBERUS and you will pay back allthe stolen German Taxpayers' money..
Crime does not pay..
You will be the slaves of Germans at least for 3-50 years..
You are dead.
Greeks R.I.P (1821-2012)