Modern greeks are gypsies?

Created by Gordana on Jan 24, 2012

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Alexander the Great

Athens, Greece

#3204 Jun 1, 2012
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Alexander the Great

Athens, Greece

#3205 Jun 1, 2012
Alexander The Great wrote:
Hmm, i will have to say that everything here is totally fun... i've read everything typed here and i gotta say one thing...Learn History dudes...Firstly for those who say that Makedonians weren't Greeks let me give ya a good example why he was.Alexander the great took part in the Olympic Games back then...If you learn some history you will know that only greeks could participate, all others were banned from the Olympic Games and indeed he took part in.Secondly, i would like to add that when Alexander won the Persians in their first war in the Granic river he sent 300 armors of the Persian army with this sign:Alexander the Great and the greeks except Spartans from the asian barbarian lands.It's obvious that he isnt seperating himself or the Makedonians from the rest Greeks.Also, when alexander finished his campgain he spreaded the greek language which is EXACTLY the same with the ancient Greek one.Now, Dear friend Oguz Tolga as far as Turks are concerned i dont got much to say apart from the fact that you are origins of the mogolians that got pwned at asia, deal with it and stop crying.Now, as far as F.Y.R.O.M guyz are concerned, dudes.... i mean srsly now even ur president came out and said that you have nothing to do with Alexander the Great and that you are slavs that came at that lands the 6th century a.c..i mean rly what else you need to convince yourself.To those who say that Modern Greeks have nothing to do with the ancient ones, i would say that moderns turks have nothing to do with the 14th century a.c, that modern albanians have nothing to do with the ancient ones and goes on.One thing is sure, Greeks got nothing to do with Gypsies and i dont really came up with that idea to do propaganda to the Greeks.Unfortunatelly for you, people has mind and can judge the facts and know whats real and whats not.To sup up, i would say that Skopje country is a 1992 made country, idd its weird that they just invented the idea of them being origins of the great alexander.FYROM is a nation that has no politismical growth coming, and the best way to do is to steal history from the countries that they are near to.I would say salute Greeks because with their civilization and mind they managed to inspire and still do people from every corner of the world.If there is gonna be given a name in order to name FYROM and if they name them North makedonia, BE sure that they will accept it, because they got nothing else to do and they achived their propaganda.Ζ&#919 ;ΤΩ Η ΕΛΛ ΑΔΑ , ΕΛΛ ΑΣ ΕΛΛ ΗΝΩ Ν ΧΡΙ ΣΤΙ ΑΝΩ Ν.
Kalutera na mhn milas se afto to thread, giati osa pio polla comments grafeis toso pio popular kai gnwsto ara kai pio efkolo gia na to vreis sto google. Giati ama alloi arxizoun kai vlepoun oti mas lene gyftous tote tha arxisoun na tous pistevoun. Diadwse to afto se olous tous ellhnes. Ama stamathsoun oi ellhnes na grafoun edw tote tha stamathsoun kai oi skopianoi kai tha eksafanhstei afto to thread mia kai kalh. Ama sunexisete na grafetai se afto tote the ginei opws to "Is Macedonia Hellenic- Yes NO" thread, to opio den tha stamathsei pote na einai hot thread. Giafto diadwse to afto stous allos ellhnes kai stamathste na grafete edw. Tosa kai tosa threads uparxoun, den xreiazetai na ginoume rezili se osous erxontai edw kai vlepoun ta comments twn Skopianwn. Ama thes kanto copy-paste h grapse diko sou. Ok?

Just try not to translate it in English so these Slavomongol Albogyspsies don't know what we're talking about.
P.S. we have the same name dude!
Alexander The Great

Athens, Greece

#3206 Jun 1, 2012
nai re ok aplos ithela na taposo ligo autous tous bromiarides tous skopianous kai to ekana pisteuo,KAI ontos exoune same name

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#3207 Jun 1, 2012
Apollo wrote:
<quoted text>"IDIOTS ARE UNBEATABLE."
ALBERT EINSTEIN.
300 Spartans stopped 1.000.000 Persian soldiers...?

hahahaha

Yes ofcourse the Persians stopped..for 5 seconds..

They stopped and started to laugh hahahhahahahaha

Because 300 Spartans were running very fast but could not go ,just doing skating on the ""fear shits""of the first row..

hahahaha
hahahaahahahaahaha

299 Spartans died of Heart Attacks of fear..

1Heroe (!) Spartan left and told a lot of lies about this 5 seconds...

After 3000 years the Movie makers made a film of that 5seconds but 2.5 Hours..

hahahahaha
hahahaahahaahahahaha

A Persian victorious army comes from Persia to Balkans thorough Anatolian Mountains and valleys,rivers and lakes and the Commanders were idiots to send the 1Millions of soldiers through a small hole?

hahaha

Only idiots like Greeks can believe it?
PROTAGORAS

Perth, Australia

#3208 Jun 1, 2012
OguzTolga wrote:
<quoted text>
My question here is "who are these people and how did they become the Hellenes?"
Modern Greeks today consider themselves to be the inheritors of the ancient Greek and Byzantine civilizations and cultures.
Historically, the self-perception of the Greeks and the definition of Greekness have varied, but with the emergence and consolidation of the nation-state, from the late 18th century, Greekness was redefined along the lines of what some people call romantic nationalism.
Romantic nationalism is the form of nationalism in which the state derives its political legitimacy as an organic consequence of the unity of those it governs.
This includes, depending on the particular manner of practice, the language, race, culture, religion and customs of the "nation" in its primal sense of those who were "born" within its culture.
This form of nationalism arose in reaction to dynastic or imperial hegemony, which assessed the legitimacy of the state from the "top down", emanating from a monarch or other authority, which justified its existence.
Such downward-radiating power might ultimately derive from God.
Greece accepts all those who agree with this principle and rejects those who disagree.
So what exactly is this principle and what are the criteria for belonging to it? Or, what is this club called "Hellas" and how does one sign up to join it?
Is it ethnicity?
Obviously not!
Modern Greece is made up of Slav Speakers, Albanians, Vlachs, Turks, Christian Turks, Roma, etc.
Is it the Christian Orthodox Religion?
Obviously not, even though most conservative Greeks like it to be! The so-called ancient Hellenes were Pagan.
So what exactly is a "Hellene" then in modern terms?
A Modern Hellene is a person who has rejected his or her real ethnicity, forsaken his or her real culture for the sake of belonging to a "CLUB".
A Modern Hellene or Modern Greek, since Hellene and Greek are synonymous, has abandoned reality and the truth for the sake of living an Idea.
When Greece was coming together as a country for the first time in the early 1800's, ethnically it could not hold itself together because of the various ethnicities living together and pulling in different directions.
It is well known and every Greek should know that the majority of their national heroes of the "Greek uprising" against the Turks were not Greeks.
They were Albanians (Arvanites), Vlachs and Slav Speakers (mostly Macedonians).
As I ever tell you ""Nothing is Greek even Greeks are not Greeks""
Dr. Dolmuz:
If you are going to comment use your OWN comments, don't be a klefti and use others' commentary!
To the point:
The question is "Who are the 'turks'??"
Are the 'turks' mentioned in any literature before the 19th century?
Apparently NOT! Why ? Because they were manufactured in the 20th century by Kemal Skataturk, the big sissy maid gayman FREEMASON in response to English and German directives!
Why were they created in the 20th century??
Simple .
There was NO ethnic, cultural, linguistic or racial homogeneity in the Ottoman regions. Have you ever noticed why 'turko' governments never mention: Armenians, Greeks, Arabs, Kurds, Persians, Mongols, Jews, Hittites , Babylonians, Assyrians, Picts, Scyths, Gypsies,...
Am I wrong. These are not mentioned. They are referred to as 'turks' who are political anarchists, influenced by some alien power. Sound familiar ?
So who are the 'turks'? Where there any "Ancient turks"??
Ancient turds maybe ??
So what is your civilisation? You teach you kids lies by talking about the Anatolians that were the original inhabitants, and that you are also Anatolians! The term Anatolian means absolutely NOTHING. It is a lie created by your corrupt governments.
'turks' started out as barbaric, uncivilised pagans near Western Mongolia. As soon as they met ISLAM guess what?- they ALL became Muslims.
Do you know that even ISLAM is indirectly a GREEK product??
You don't even know your own history! FOOLS!

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#3209 Jun 1, 2012
PROTAGORAS wrote:
<quoted text>
Dr. Dolmuz:
If you are going to comment use your OWN comments, don't be a klefti and use others' commentary!
To the point:
The question is "Who are the 'turks'??"
Are the 'turks' mentioned in any literature before the 19th century?
Apparently NOT! Why ? Because they were manufactured in the 20th century by Kemal Skataturk, the big sissy maid gayman FREEMASON in response to English and German directives!
Why were they created in the 20th century??
Simple .
There was NO ethnic, cultural, linguistic or racial homogeneity in the Ottoman regions. Have you ever noticed why 'turko' governments never mention: Armenians, Greeks, Arabs, Kurds, Persians, Mongols, Jews, Hittites , Babylonians, Assyrians, Picts, Scyths, Gypsies,...
Am I wrong. These are not mentioned. They are referred to as 'turks' who are political anarchists, influenced by some alien power. Sound familiar ?
So who are the 'turks'? Where there any "Ancient turks"??
Ancient turds maybe ??
So what is your civilisation? You teach you kids lies by talking about the Anatolians that were the original inhabitants, and that you are also Anatolians! The term Anatolian means absolutely NOTHING. It is a lie created by your corrupt governments.
'turks' started out as barbaric, uncivilised pagans near Western Mongolia. As soon as they met ISLAM guess what?- they ALL became Muslims.
Do you know that even ISLAM is indirectly a GREEK product??
You don't even know your own history! FOOLS!
Dr.Spencer Wells who wrote a book titled "journey of man" claims he has evidence based on the Y-Chromosome tests, the first group followed the coast line of southern Asia all the way to Australia 50000 years ago after Africa.

Another group about 40000 years ago walked again but took an inland route and first settled in Kazakhstan.

This group then spread to west thru Russia, some to China and some to Siberia and Alaska, North&South America and some to Pakistan/India.

He states that he identified the M9 "central asian" marker which first occurred among people of Central Asian(Turkestan) steppes 40000 years ago.

He claims that a man named Niyazov( a Kazak Turk) has the M9 but no subsequent markers, therefore he must have descended in an unbroken line from the people who originally occupied Central Asia """"40000 years"""" ago. FOURTYTHOUSANDS wowowowwowowwowowow

Well states that Niyazov's gene was the father to most Europeans, most Asians and most Indians.

""Ural""is a Turkjish word...
Symrne is a Hititian-ProtoTurk name ..
like
50.000 words in Greek Language

or
6 players in the first 11 football players
or
3 of 5 Basketball players of Greece...

or
%61 of Greece population..

See the athens telephone books..hehehe

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#3210 Jun 1, 2012
“The Greeks equally owed many of their deities, and early arts, to the congers of the Tuskans in Asia Minor.

The mythology of Etruria points to an Eastern, and to a Turanian, origin&#65279; [...]"

(J. G. R. Forlong, Encyclopedia of Religions or Faiths of Man, Part 2, Kessinger Publishing, 2003, p.74)

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#3211 Jun 1, 2012
Mystery Solved Etruscans DNA codes are as same as TURKS DNA codes, They Were TURK !!!
check: http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...105308...
The enigma of Italy's ancient Etruscans is finally unravelled

Genetic research DNA tests on their Italian descendants show the 'tuscii' came from Turkey
John Hooper in Rome
Monday June 18, 2007
The Guardian

Ancient wonders ... The Etruscans created great works of art including the Bride and Bridegroom, or the Married Couple. Photograph: Gianni Dagli Orti/Corbis

They gave us the word "person" and invented a symbol of iron rule later adopted by the fascists. Some even argue it was they who really moulded Roman civilisation.

Yet the Etruscans, whose descendants today live in central Italy, have long been among the great enigmas of antiquity.

Their language, which has never properly been deciphered, was unlike any other in classical Italy.

Their origins have been hotly debated by scholars for centuries.

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#3212 Jun 1, 2012
Timeline
of the Etruscan ProtoTurks

1200BC First traces of Etruscan civilisation

700BC Etruscans borrow alphabetic writing from
Greeks, and become first people in Italy to write

616-579BC Rome ruled by its first, legendary
Etruscan king, Lucius Tarquinius Priscus
550BC Etruscan power at zenith.

Three confederations hold Po valley and coast south of Rome, heartland of southern Tuscany, and western Umbria.

Allied with Carthaginians, Etruscans trade across the Mediterranean
535BC At Alalia, off Corsica, fleet of Carthaginians and Etruscans defeat Greek fleet.

But Carthaginians, not Etruscans, assert control over seas

510BC Last Etruscan king, Lucius Tarquinius Superbus, is expelled from Rome

474BC At Cumae, off Naples, Arvanite fleet defeats Etruscans, who start to lose grip on area south of Rome

396BC Romans capture Veii, an Etruscan settlement north of Rome; destruction of settlement marks start of long period in which Romans gradually annex towns of Etruscan heartland.

By start of first century BC, all of Etruria has been absorbed by Rome republic

Since: May 12

Thessaloníki, Greece

#3213 Jun 1, 2012
OguzTolga wrote:
'WE HAVE NOTHING TURKISH IN OUR CULTURE ALL THE ELEMENTS ARE GREEK''IF YOU SEE US AS TURKS YOU MAKE A BIG MISTAKE.WE HAVE NOTHING TO BE CALLED TURKISH,WHAT WE HAVE IS TAKEN FROM THE GREEKS.EVEN THE NAME OF MY SON EFE IS GREEK'''Turgut Ozal 1988
Turgut Ozal was President and Prime Minister of Turkey HEHEHE Turgay OguaTolga, whats your opinion on that ?
Bronzilla

Sérres, Greece

#3214 Jun 1, 2012
OguzTolga wrote:
Etruscan ProtoTurks
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/kallim...

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#3215 Jun 1, 2012
PANsatyros wrote:
<quoted text>
'WE HAVE NOTHING TURKISH IN OUR CULTURE ALL THE ELEMENTS ARE GREEK''IF YOU SEE US AS TURKS YOU MAKE A BIG MISTAKE.WE HAVE NOTHING TO BE CALLED TURKISH,WHAT WE HAVE IS TAKEN FROM THE GREEKS.EVEN THE NAME OF MY SON EFE IS GREEK'''Turgut Ozal 1988
Turgut Ozal was President and Prime Minister of Turkey HEHEHE Turgay OguaTolga, whats your opinion on that ?
:))Do you believe it?
PROTAGORAS

Perth, Australia

#3216 Jun 1, 2012
OguzTolga wrote:
<quoted text>
:))Do you believe it?
1.Chromosomes and genes whether haploid or other cannot identify populations, they cannot distinguish cultural and social aspects.
2. You are basing research on one maybe a few scientists . So what !
Look at the climate debate. Anyone says whatever they feel like !!
PROTAGORAS

Perth, Australia

#3217 Jun 1, 2012
OguzTolga wrote:
Timeline
of the Etruscan ProtoTurks
1200BC First traces of Etruscan civilisation
700BC Etruscans borrow alphabetic writing from
Greeks, and become first people in Italy to write
616-579BC Rome ruled by its first, legendary
Etruscan king, Lucius Tarquinius Priscus
550BC Etruscan power at zenith.
Three confederations hold Po valley and coast south of Rome, heartland of southern Tuscany, and western Umbria.
Allied with Carthaginians, Etruscans trade across the Mediterranean
535BC At Alalia, off Corsica, fleet of Carthaginians and Etruscans defeat Greek fleet.
But Carthaginians, not Etruscans, assert control over seas
510BC Last Etruscan king, Lucius Tarquinius Superbus, is expelled from Rome
474BC At Cumae, off Naples, Arvanite fleet defeats Etruscans, who start to lose grip on area south of Rome
396BC Romans capture Veii, an Etruscan settlement north of Rome; destruction of settlement marks start of long period in which Romans gradually annex towns of Etruscan heartland.
By start of first century BC, all of Etruria has been absorbed by Rome republic
to show how silly you are, you START YOUR ARGUMENT by defining out from nowhere the Etruscan Proto-Turk!! What on earth is an Etruscan Proto-Turk??

You guys are need to be shot on site for making such claims !!

You are used to shooting, murder and genocide as is well known !!
Bronzilla

Sérres, Greece

#3218 Jun 1, 2012
OguzTolga wrote:
<quoted text>
:))Do you believe it?
from 6ad, soon you come down the mountains, we f@ck you non stop
Alexander the Great

Athens, Greece

#3220 Jun 1, 2012
Alexander The Great wrote:
nai re ok aplos ithela na taposo ligo autous tous bromiarides tous skopianous kai to ekana pisteuo,KAI ontos exoune same name
As mhn grafoume edw apo dw kai pera...
Alexander the Great

Athens, Greece

#3221 Jun 1, 2012
PROTAGORAS wrote:
<quoted text>
Dr. Dolmuz:
If you are going to comment use your OWN comments, don't be a klefti and use others' commentary!
To the point:
The question is "Who are the 'turks'??"
Are the 'turks' mentioned in any literature before the 19th century?
Apparently NOT! Why ? Because they were manufactured in the 20th century by Kemal Skataturk, the big sissy maid gayman FREEMASON in response to English and German directives!
Why were they created in the 20th century??
Simple .
There was NO ethnic, cultural, linguistic or racial homogeneity in the Ottoman regions. Have you ever noticed why 'turko' governments never mention: Armenians, Greeks, Arabs, Kurds, Persians, Mongols, Jews, Hittites , Babylonians, Assyrians, Picts, Scyths, Gypsies,...
Am I wrong. These are not mentioned. They are referred to as 'turks' who are political anarchists, influenced by some alien power. Sound familiar ?
So who are the 'turks'? Where there any "Ancient turks"??
Ancient turds maybe ??
So what is your civilisation? You teach you kids lies by talking about the Anatolians that were the original inhabitants, and that you are also Anatolians! The term Anatolian means absolutely NOTHING. It is a lie created by your corrupt governments.
'turks' started out as barbaric, uncivilised pagans near Western Mongolia. As soon as they met ISLAM guess what?- they ALL became Muslims.
Do you know that even ISLAM is indirectly a GREEK product??
You don't even know your own history! FOOLS!
Kalutera na mhn milas se afto to thread, giati osa pio polla comments grafeis toso pio popular kai gnwsto ara kai pio efkolo gia na to vreis sto google. Giati ama alloi arxizoun kai vlepoun oti mas lene gyftous tote tha arxisoun na tous pistevoun. Diadwse to afto se olous tous ellhnes. Ama stamathsoun oi ellhnes na grafoun edw tote tha stamathsoun kai oi skopianoi kai tha eksafanhstei afto to thread mia kai kalh. Ama sunexisete na grafetai se afto tote the ginei opws to "Is Macedonia Hellenic- Yes NO" thread, to opio den tha stamathsei pote na einai hot thread. Giafto diadwse to afto stous allos ellhnes kai stamathste na grafete edw. Tosa kai tosa threads uparxoun, den xreiazetai na ginoume rezili se osous erxontai edw kai vlepoun ta comments twn Skopianwn. Ama thes kanto copy-paste h grapse diko sou. Ok?

Since: Mar 12

Zagreb, Croatia

#3222 Jun 1, 2012
PANsatyros wrote:
<quoted text>
'WE HAVE NOTHING TURKISH IN OUR CULTURE ALL THE ELEMENTS ARE GREEK''IF YOU SEE US AS TURKS YOU MAKE A BIG MISTAKE.WE HAVE NOTHING TO BE CALLED TURKISH,WHAT WE HAVE IS TAKEN FROM THE GREEKS.EVEN THE NAME OF MY SON EFE IS GREEK'''Turgut Ozal 1988
Turgut Ozal was President and Prime Minister of Turkey HEHEHE Turgay OguaTolga, whats your opinion on that ?
You modern Greeks are really funny. You don't want to accept reality, and think that everything is Greek. Hahahaha :D
There are many Truski customs in modern Greek, Bulgarian, Serbian, Macedonian... culture. It is a fact, nobody can deny that. Like you or not.

Since: Mar 12

Zagreb, Croatia

#3223 Jun 1, 2012
Turkish**
PHILIP THE MACEDONIAN

Hausmannstatten, Austria

#3224 Jun 1, 2012
Filip93 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ajde fake Bulgarian, titoistic YUGO pseudonation!

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