How many PURE greeks live in greece today.

remember a pure greek have blonde hair and blue eyes, no dark features

VMRO wrote:

remember a pure greek have blonde hair and blue eyes, no dark features

No idiot - the majority of Greeks were never blonde with blue eyes (as a rule).

Then what does a pure greek look like? The fact is there isnt many pure greeks left. The so called greeks with dark features are mostly turks, armenians, albanians, vlachs, kurds, gypsies and many other nationalities

VMRO wrote:

remember a pure greek have blonde hair and blue eyes, no dark features

Show me your reference!!! Becaue I say you are a Mongol!!!!

There is no such thing as pure geek, so the answer is 0!

MissBalkan wrote:

There is no such thing as pure geek, so the answer is 0!

You're wrong . Otherwise Greeks would let skopianslavs to take the name of Macedonia , but they don't because they are pure Greeks !

We can maybe find some "GAG'S" or "GEK", even people from Gracea - BUT NONE "CLASSIC GREEK"!!

NONE=0 from me too!!!

Maintaining the myth. Other Europeans have become irritated with the Greek myth of ethnic purity. For instance, in an editorial in The Sunday Telegraph, London, March 27,1994, the Greek attitude is taken to task:
What is the word for this obsessive Greek pseudo-relationship with their country's past (they even have a magazine, Ellenismos, devoted to the subject)? It is not quite pretentiousness. There is too much passion for that. No, the Greeks, the ancient ones, had a word for the modern Greek condition: paranoia. We must accept that Mr Andreas Papandreou (Greek prime minister) and the current EC presidency are the sole legitimate heirs of Pericles, Demosthenes and Aristide the Just. The world must nod dumbly at the proposition that in the veins of the modern Greek ... there courses the blood of Achilles. And their paranoid nationalism is heightened by the tenuousness of that claim.
The Editor of The Sunday Telegraph argues that Greece has been ruthless in erasing traces of ethnic diversity, and suggests that the desperation of its actions, including the Greek claim to a monopoly of the classical past (in which all peoples of European origins have a share) can be explained by the fact that the Greeks today are a mixture of Slavs, Turks, Greeks, Bulgars, Albanians, Vlachs, Jews and Gypsies.
One modern Greek intellectual who now lives outside of that country has reflected on the forces within Greece that foster and sustain the theory of Greek ethnic purity:
In retrospect it is clear to me that my 12 years of Greek schooling, mainly in the 1970s, conspired to instill in me precisely one attitude: an almost unshakable belief in the purity and unity of the Greek people, language and culture ... Belief in the continuity of Greece against all odds was enabled also by the method of withholding information and sealing off interpretive paths. We had, as children, neither the capacity nor the inclination to explore disunities and "impurities.”

Modern Greek citizens who try to assert their ethnic identity are not treated tolerantly in Greece even today. One of these recently said, "There are a million Macedonian speakers [in Greece]. We are entitled to rights, to associations, schools, churches, traditions ... I have a Macedonian ethnic consciousness ... I belong to an ethnic minority which isn't recognized by my State." As a consequence of this statement and others like it, Christos Sideropoulos and another Greek Macedonian, Anastasios (or Tasos) Boulis, repeatedly faced the Greek courts. They were charged with spreading false rumors about the non-Greekness of Macedonia and the existence of a Macedonian minority on Greek territory which is not officially recognized, and with instigating conflict among Greek citizens by differentiating between the speakers of a Slavic language and Greeks. If convicted they faced possible terms of several years' imprisonment and heavy fines .14 More will be said about charges of human rights abuses against Greece in a later chapter. At this point it is enough to recognize the continuing vigor with which Greece asserts an ethnic purity that cannot be substantiated by historical analysis.
Of particular interest are the population changes that have occurred in Aegean Macedonia during the twentieth century. The Greek position is that the Greek citizens of Aegean Macedonia have a genuine claim to historic connection with Macedonia and that the Slavs do not. It is implied that they have this connection since they are Greek and the ancient Macedonians are claimed to have been Greek. However, it is not commonly known, even among Greeks, that a majority of the "Greek" population of Aegean Macedonia can trace its immediate ancestors not to Macedonia, but to Anatolia, western Turkey, since they came from Turkey as refugees in the 1920s during one of the Greek-Turkish wars. The population of western Turkey at the time had been subject to many of the same forces that affected the populations of the southern Balkans, though for various reasons, including the tendency of the Byzantine Empire to move troublesome peoples to this area and the strong presence of peoples of Turkic origin, the mix was even more complex. If the connection of Balkan Greek speakers to the ancient Greeks and thence to the ancient Macedonians is tenuous, the links with the Turkish Greek speakers who came into Aegean Macedonia are even more dubious. This issue will be explained further in another chapter.
http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/AncientMace...

Maintaining the myth. Other Europeans have become irritated with the Greek myth of ethnic purity. For instance, in an editorial in The Sunday Telegraph, London, March 27,1994, the Greek attitude is taken to task:

What is the word for this obsessive Greek pseudo-relationship with their country's past (they even have a magazine, Ellenismos, devoted to the subject)? It is not quite pretentiousness. There is too much passion for that. No, the Greeks, the ancient ones, had a word for the modern Greek condition: paranoia. We must accept that Mr Andreas Papandreou (Greek prime minister) and the current EC presidency are the sole legitimate heirs of Pericles, Demosthenes and Aristide the Just. The world must nod dumbly at the proposition that in the veins of the modern Greek ... there courses the blood of Achilles. And their paranoid nationalism is heightened by the tenuousness of that claim.

The Editor of The Sunday Telegraph argues that Greece has been ruthless in erasing traces of ethnic diversity, and suggests that the desperation of its actions, including the Greek claim to a monopoly of the classical past (in which all peoples of European origins have a share) can be explained by the fact that the Greeks today are a mixture of Slavs, Turks, Greeks, Bulgars, Albanians, Vlachs, Jews and Gypsies.

One modern Greek intellectual who now lives outside of that country has reflected on the forces within Greece that foster and sustain the theory of Greek ethnic purity:

In retrospect it is clear to me that my 12 years of Greek schooling, mainly in the 1970s, conspired to instill in me precisely one attitude: an almost unshakable belief in the purity and unity of the Greek people, language and culture ... Belief in the continuity of Greece against all odds was enabled also by the method of withholding information and sealing off interpretive paths. We had, as children, neither the capacity nor the inclination to explore disunities and "impurities.”

VMRO wrote:

Maintaining the myth. Other Europeans have become irritated with the Greek myth of ethnic purity. For instance, in an editorial in The Sunday Telegraph, London, March 27,1994, the Greek attitude is taken to task:.........

Everybody is free to accept or not this theory . However, what nobody can question is the continuity of greek language. Modern Greeks speak the language of their ancestors (Filip II, Demosthenes , Pericles , Palaiologos etc).

well thisis no new news to a macedonian...greeks are a mythical ideal created by the british. they do not exsist prior to 1830....no where in history will this false name be found!!!!!!! the bible is the oldest reference .....it clearly states macedonia and achea ( not greece did not exsist prior to 1830)as seperate identities.....where do these greeks come from......left over former ottoman mohammedans of greece...

BOREC wrote:

We can maybe find some "GAG'S" or "GEK", even people from Gracea - BUT NONE "CLASSIC GREEK"!!
NONE=0 from me too!!!

That's right Borec the answer is 0, thanks for agreeing!
As the famous Professor Fallmerayer wrote:
The Hellenic race in Europe is completely exterminated.
For not a single drop of real pure Hellenic blood flows in the veins of the Christian population of modern Greece, that all the magnanimous impulse of Europe to aid the cause of the children of sacred Hellas was founded on a misunderstanding; and that the ancient Greek element had long ago disappeared and been replaced by new, entirely alien ethnographical elements, chiefly of Slavonic and Albanian origin.

Very interesting indeed!

MissBalkan wrote:

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As the famous Professor Fallmerayer wrote:
The Hellenic race in Europe is completely exterminated.
For not a single drop of real pure Hellenic blood flows in the veins of the Christian population of modern Greece, that all the magnanimous impulse of Europe to aid the cause of the children of sacred Hellas was founded on a misunderstanding; and that the ancient Greek element had long ago disappeared and been replaced by new, entirely alien ethnographical elements, chiefly of Slavonic and Albanian origin.
Very interesting indeed!

Fallmerayers' ethnic theores have been rejected as unscientific and arbitrary by the Bavarian Academy of Sciences and Classical Studies and by historians .Fallmerayers' theories had been adopted by Nazis , as well as ...by some Skopians .
On the contrary , Italian genetist Luigi Luca Cavlli-Sforza had supported the genetic connection between ancient and modern Greeks .

MissBalkan wrote:

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That's right Borec the answer is 0, thanks for agreeing!
As the famous Professor Fallmerayer wrote:
The Hellenic race in Europe is completely exterminated.
For not a single drop of real pure Hellenic blood flows in the veins of the Christian population of modern Greece, that all the magnanimous impulse of Europe to aid the cause of the children of sacred Hellas was founded on a misunderstanding; and that the ancient Greek element had long ago disappeared and been replaced by new, entirely alien ethnographical elements, chiefly of Slavonic and Albanian origin.
Very interesting indeed!

Correct. Lets repeat it for grkos to absorb and understand:

1. No Hellenic blood left in modern greece

2. Modern greeks are imports, mainly from Turkey

3. Modern greeks have no link to ancient past other than living on Hellenic and Macedonian territories

4. First greek king was installed by Britishers and is of Germanic stock

5. Greece did not exist prior to 1832

6. The onus is upon greeks to prove their roots to the Hellenic and Macedonian past ( seeing as some of them claim to be Macedonian )

7. The greek BS and propoganda web is becoming undone and their crimes atroicities are coming into the light for the world to see

8. They should rename their state FMPOG ( Former Macedonian Province of Greece )

9.Recognize all minorities within their borders, apologize for countless crimes and commence reparations.

10. FCUK GREECE!

MissBalkan wrote:

There is no such thing as pure geek, so the answer is 0!

What do you mean "pure" Greek?

VMRO wrote:

remember a pure greek have blonde hair and blue eyes, no dark features

Blood and dna are not related to ethnicity, at least within a race.

hahahahhahahhah.Guys the greeks were always people with black hair black eyes and white skin..If you go in a school with children you will see children with white skin and blck hair..If you go to a highschool all the girls are blond..hmmm

Istor wrote:

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What do you mean "pure" Greek?

You tell me Mr Teacher! You geeks say you are pure
Please read my post above by Professor Fallmerayer

MissBalkan wrote:

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You tell me Mr Teacher! You geeks say you are pure
Please read my post above by Professor Fallmerayer

Did you read my post about Fallmerayer above?