Egyptian colonisation of Greece.....

From Sais, wrote Diodoros, Egyptian colonists sailed forth to found Athens -
or, at least, so claimed the Egyptian priests. "Indeed, Diodoros continues,
"the Egyptians say that their ancestors set forth numerous colonies to many
parts of the inhabited world, by reason of the pre-eminence of their former
kings and their excessive population."

In any case, it is certain that Egypt had already made contact with Crete as
far back as Menes's time - and even before then. Archaeologists have found
distinctively Egyptian artifacts in Crete dating back to the prehistoric Naqada
culture, which flourished in the Nile Valley between 4000 to 3150 B.C.

When civilization finally arrived in Crete, it struck all at once.

Archaeologists agree that the Greek islands do seem to have come under foreign
attack during the period between 2800 and 2200 B.C. An even more remarkable
transformation occurred on the mainland, however.

It as precisely during this period that a mysterious new people appeared in
Greece - a civilization of master builders and expert seafarers. Surviving
monuments include enormous pyramid-like burial mounds.

The earliest Greek statues - such as the many examples from the sixth century
B.C.- employ rigidly stylized postures borrowed from Egyptian art. Legend
holds that the Greeks learned to sculpt from Daidalos - an Athenian artist who
studied in Egypt.

Around 2000 B.C., the islanders suddenly began rearing magnificent "palaces,"
like that at Knossos, where before they had built only small towns and
villages. Most experts agree that the change was too sudden and dramatic to
have evolved from internal forces alone. Some inspiration from abroad clearly
sparked this explosion of palace building.

Then there is the stone representations left from the temple of Hatshepsut, the
expedition where Egyptian sailors voyage to the Land of Punt, somewhere on the
coast of Ethiopia. If the Egyptians could sail 900 miles to Punt, why is it so
hard to believe that they could have sailed a mere 560 miles to Greece???

The ancient Greeks long remembered the exact place where Danaos and his
daughters supposedly first set foot on Greek soil. It was called Apobathmi and
was located just south of Argos, on the Peloponnesian peninsula. In his
"Description of Greece," written around A.D. 174, Pausanias noted the site as a
point of interest for tourists. The year of Danaos's landing, according to the
Parian Marable, was 1511 B.C.

Pausanias mentions that Danaos arrived in Greece with an entire "fleet," which
implies that he brought far more people with him than just his family. The
intimidating size of this fleet and the number of troops it carried may have
contributed greatly to what happened next. Greek tradition holds that Argos was
inhabited by Pelasgians at the time Danaos landed. These were the people - whom
legend regarded as the original inhabitants of Greece. Appropriately enough,
they were ruled by a king named Pelasgos.

One version of the story holds that King Pelasgos welcomed the Egyptians
warmly, inviting Danaos and his daughters to settle in the country as his
guests. Apollodoros, on the other hand, says that Pelasgos "surrendered the
kingdom to him" and that Danaos "made himself master of the country." Either
way, the legends agree that Danaos replaced Pelasgos as king of Argos. It is
hard to imagine how Danaos could have accomplished this, unless he had brought
a considerable army with him.

Danaos was long remembered as a wise and capable ruler. The dynasty he founded
gave rise to some of the greatest heroes in Greek legend, including Perseus and
Herakles. His daughters too were remembered, for establishing the secret rites
of the Thesmophoria - a festival in which women camped out for three days, away
from men, in order to worship Demeter, the Greek goddess usually identified
with Isis. "It was the daughters of Danaus," wrote Herodotos, "who brought this
ceremony from Egypt and instructed the Pelasgian women in it."

But perhaps the most lasting achievement of Danaos was to give a new name to
the Greeks. In the play "Archelaos," Euripides explains, "Danaos, the father of
fifty daughters, on coming to Argos took up his abode in the city of Inachos
(Argos) and throughout Greece he laid down the law that all people hitherto
named Pelasgians were to be named Danaans."

From that day forth, and for many centuries to come, the Greeks - or at least a
large portion of them - were known as Danaoi, or Danaans. In the Illiad, Homer
never refers to "Greeks" but only to Danaans (whom he also calls Argives and
Achaians). Egyptian documents from the New Kingdom also refer to Greece as
Tanaya, and to the Greeks as Dene. To the extent that Greece existed as a
nation during the Late Bronze Age, it appears to have taken its identity from a
single tribe called the Danaans.

The clear implication is that the Greeks who sacked Troy were the direct
inheritors of Danaos's kingdom. Their very sense of nationhood derived from
Danaos. If there is any truth to the Danaos legend, we must consider the
possibility that Greek civilization arouse, in the Bronze Age, largely as a
result of Egyptian colonization.

As with so many other Bronze Age legends, the exact dates and details behind
the Danaos story may never be known. But its overall message seems clear:

Greece was colonized by Egyptians. The legend implies, further, that Greece
emerged as a nation largely through the leadership of Egyptian kings, who
planted royal dynasties and founded Egyptian cults on Greek soil.

greeks , we always knew their dark contorted bodies were not of european stock , like the superior makedonci....

Masons regarded Egypt as the origination-point of civilisation. When Masonry had earlier ceased being a pan-European guild of craftsmen and transformed into a privileged gentleman's society, it had become the core of an Enlightenment intellectual tradition which sought to move away from narrow Christian thinking into the realm of Reason. This school of thought assumed that classical knowledge had been passed to the Greeks through colonisation of early Greece by Egyptians and Phoenicians and through visits by Greeks to Egypt. Thus, Greece was seen by Masons as an Egyptian-Semitic cultural outgrowth, the vital link between Europe and the taproot of civilisation, Egypt. Hence that Napoleon invested much in conquering and researching Egypt.

More from Herodotus (Again Greek is changed to Hellene):
Quote:
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin...r=53:s...
LIII. The Lacedaemonians are the only Hellenes who tell this story. But in what I write I follow the Hellenic report, and hold that the Hellenes correctly recount these kings of the Dorians as far back as Perseus son of Danae--they make no mention of the god --and prove these kings to be Hellenic; for by that time they had come to be classified as Greeks.
[2] I said as far back as Perseus, and I took the matter no further than that, because no one is named as the mortal father of Perseus, as Amphitryon is named father of Heracles. So I used correct reasoning when I said that the Greek record is correct as far back as Perseus; farther back than that, if the king's ancestors in each generation, from Danae daughter of Acrisius upward, be reckoned, then the leaders of the Dorians will be shown to be true-born Egyptians.

"The Phoenicians who came with Kadmos introduced into Greece, after their settlement in the country, a large number of accomplishments, of which the most important was writing, an art till then, I think, unknown to the Greeks."
Herodotus, Histories, V.58

ancient Greece evolved as a result of Egyptian (Danaos), Phoenician (Kadmos), and Anatolian (Pelops) invasion and colonisation over the indigenous Pelasgian population. This theory was also widely believed by the ancient Greeks themselves as evidenced by the above qoutes. Unfortunately, the German, English and French scolars of the 18th century fabricated the racist 'European' 'Aryan' origin for ancient Greek civilisation that is still currently taught today, thus denying ancient Greece's true Afro-Asiatic roots.

From what I have seen thus far, it appears that the Dorian 'invasion' into Mycenaean territory has some parallels to the Slavic 'invasion' into the Balkans. The Greek language as it was known from the 8th century BC onwards could be a mutation between some Minoan, some Mycenaean and later Hellenic (Dorian) tongues, to what degree for each is uncertain though. There were also Semitic influences that were present from Mycenaean times, meaning prior to the Dorian 'invasion'. All in all, it is much more complex than is revealed by the Greek racists that claim a false purity of 4,000 years of continued existence. The whole concept is a sham.

WOW, is very true and powerful - BUT YET, THEY FORM so called "Greece" and it was NOTHING more then just a few colonised cities, nothing more then that. SO DO THEY HAVE TO NAME ALL TERITORY "GREECE" EVEN BEFORE THEIR COLONISATION??

The best explanation to that are MANY historical facts, showing the same NON-GREECE existence before 1830, including this one (I mentioned many times earlier) strait from MACEDONIANS THEMSELVES – the King Philip V of Macedon, were he says;

Polybius - Ancient Statesman and Historian

Philip V from Macedon responds to the Greek and Roman demands:

"But what is most outrageous of all is that they should attempt to put themselves on the same footing as the Romans and demand that the Macedonians should withdraw from the whole of Greece. To use such language is arrogant enough in the first place, but while we may endure this from the Romans, it is quite intolerable coming from the Aetolians. In any case,' he continued,'WHAT IS THIS GREECE WHICH YOU DEMAND THAT I SHOULD EVACUATE, AND HOW DO YOU DEFINE GREECE? Certainly MOST of the Aetolians themselves are not Greeks!

The countries of the Agraae, the Apodotea, and the Aphilochians cannot be regarded as Greek. So do you allow me to remain in those territories."

This quote shows not only that Macedonians had nothing to do with Gayreeks, but shows that NO Greece was existent in ancient times...not even as a territory - except SOME people called as such who lived in SOME small islands as a majority, who’s primarily identity was again NOT one ethnicity rather then a CULTURE or RELIGION, as it shows in previous posts by "The Lie Detector", THE MIGRANTS or in Macedonian language called SELENI meaning the same!

SO WHY THEY CONTINUOUSLY AND ANNOYINGLY INJECT THAT “GREEKNESS” OF THE REGION IS ANOTHER FRUSTRATING WESTERNERS POLITICS.

Are you a.k.a. as King Merenptah?

http://www.historykb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/ancie...

http://www.mombu.com/culture/egypt/t-egyptian...

And also a delusional afrocentrist historian?

THE ONLY DELUSIONAL ARE YOU GAYREEK MORONS!!!

Get lost from OUR LAND - you pathetic branless imbeciles!!!

Hairamess wrote:

Are you a.k.a. as King Merenptah?
http://www.historykb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/ancie...
http://www.mombu.com/culture/egypt/t-egyptian...
And also a delusional afrocentrist historian?

Anything to get a rile out of Greeks.

BOREC wrote:

WOW, is very true and powerful - BUT YET, THEY FORM so called "Greece" and it was NOTHING more then just a few colonised cities, nothing more then that. SO DO THEY HAVE TO NAME ALL TERITORY "GREECE" EVEN BEFORE THEIR COLONISATION??
The best explanation to that are MANY historical facts, showing the same NON-GREECE existence before 1830, including this one (I mentioned many times earlier) strait from MACEDONIANS THEMSELVES – the King Philip V of Macedon, were he says;
Polybius - Ancient Statesman and Historian
Philip V from Macedon responds to the Greek and Roman demands:
"But what is most outrageous of all is that they should attempt to put themselves on the same footing as the Romans and demand that the Macedonians should withdraw from the whole of Greece. To use such language is arrogant enough in the first place, but while we may endure this from the Romans, it is quite intolerable coming from the Aetolians. In any case,' he continued,'WHAT IS THIS GREECE WHICH YOU DEMAND THAT I SHOULD EVACUATE, AND HOW DO YOU DEFINE GREECE? Certainly MOST of the Aetolians themselves are not Greeks!
The countries of the Agraae, the Apodotea, and the Aphilochians cannot be regarded as Greek. So do you allow me to remain in those territories."
This quote shows not only that Macedonians had nothing to do with Gayreeks, but shows that NO Greece was existent in ancient times...not even as a territory - except SOME people called as such who lived in SOME small islands as a majority, who’s primarily identity was again NOT one ethnicity rather then a CULTURE or RELIGION, as it shows in previous posts by "The Lie Detector", THE MIGRANTS or in Macedonian language called SELENI meaning the same!
SO WHY THEY CONTINUOUSLY AND ANNOYINGLY INJECT THAT “GREEKNESS” OF THE REGION IS ANOTHER FRUSTRATING WESTERNERS POLITICS.

i could keep posting fot 10 years straight with just the evidence from greek historians themselves on the egyptian origins of greece, yet alone others...

Hairamess wrote:

Are you a.k.a. as King Merenptah?
http://www.historykb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/ancie...
http://www.mombu.com/culture/egypt/t-egyptian...
And also a delusional afrocentrist historian?

are you also suggesting that greek historians LIED......or do you as all greeks nit pick what suits your fabricated origins....if you take historical accounts as proof ...THEN CLEARLY WHAT THE HELL ARE GREEKS...of which the modern refugee anatolian gayreeks ruled by german kings is an example...WHERE WAS THE GREEK KING...did not exist like your fabricated german ruled nation of vlachs,gypsies, turks,bulgars,macedonians,serb s,albanians, roma ...you name it greece has it...only in greece it is illegal by law to have another faith and non greek name away from the church accepted names...if you have a non greek name you are not baptised...THIS ONLY HAPPENS IN GAYREECE....

Symiakos wrote:

<quoted text>
Anything to get a rile out of Greeks.

i base my research on herodotus , the greek historian..something a gayreek like yourself avoids...FACTS ,TRUTH AND EVIDENCE...greece is the whore of europe...nothing in greece is of greek origin, not then and certainly never now.....for greece today almost 200 of freedom is famous for nothing and has not produced anything worth mentioning...

The Lie Detector wrote:

<quoted text>i base my research on herodotus , the greek historian..something a gayreek like yourself avoids...FACTS ,TRUTH AND EVIDENCE...greece is the whore of europe...nothing in greece is of greek origin, not then and certainly never now.....for greece today almost 200 of freedom is famous for nothing and has not produced anything worth mentioning...

Where EXACTLY does Herodotus say that Greeks descend from the ancient Egyptians??

Hairamess wrote:

Are you a.k.a. as King Merenptah?
http://www.historykb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/ancie...
http://www.mombu.com/culture/egypt/t-egyptian...
And also a delusional afrocentrist historian?

Also I wonder what the meaning of the word DANAOS can be in the Egyptian language...

BOREC wrote:

THE ONLY DELUSIONAL ARE YOU GAYREEK MORONS!!!
Get lost from OUR LAND - you pathetic branless imbeciles!!!

Look here,boxhead!