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Lithuania become part of the Russian Empire in the foreseeable future.
I think that possibility is quite real, seeing the state of the affairs in the world.
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Zeligowski wrote:
Lithuania become part of the Russian Empire in the foreseeable future.
I think that possibility is quite real, seeing the state of the affairs in the world.
If the Russians take over Lithuania, guess what nation they will take over next??
Zeligowski

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If the Russians take over Lithuania, guess what nation they will take over next??
Not necessary, there is no must !
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Zeligowski wrote:
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Not necessary, there is no must !
So if Russia takes over Lithuania and stops there (for the moment) then mainland Russia will border Poland.

So you don't mind that?
Zeligowski

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Thats my prediction based on observation. Do you have any arguments to the contrary ?
How about few words in the Polish language, you are Polish right?

Maybe you are pretending to be Polish in order to incite anti-polish sentiment in Russia and anti-Russian sentiment in Poland? To what end?
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Zeligowski wrote:
Thats my prediction based on observation. Do you have any arguments to the contrary ?
Imbecile. Lithuania is a NATO nation. The Russians lost against Japan in 1905, lost in WWI, lost in WWII (until the U.S. supplied material and financial support), and then lost the Cold War.

Russia's sole "win" was in 1945, when they lost twenty million dead to Germany's three million. So, in battle, one German was worth seven Russians.

Do you really think that the Russians will risk further embarrassment?
Zeligowski

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Imbecile. Lithuania is a NATO nation. The Russians lost against Japan in 1905, lost in WWI, lost in WWII (until the U.S. supplied material and financial support), and then lost the Cold War.
Russia's sole "win" was in 1945, when they lost twenty million dead to Germany's three million. So, in battle, one German was worth seven Russians.
Do you really think that the Russians will risk further embarrassment?
Imbecile ? err.. I'm embarrassed for you, such intellect and sense of humor in action, frankly I expected something - better?
So what that Lithuania is in NATO?Its boil down to the USA.
Do you think that in the foreseeable future a scenario is impossible that in certain circumstances U.S. will do knowing about Russia sucking up Lithuania. Doesn't have to be a military solution.
Given that Lithuanian Gov is the bunch of morons who is expecting USA only to help them, and is treating Poland as an enemy. That can find themselves fact to face with Russia without help (economical for example)
Anyway ask that Yank Abe if you don't believe me about willingness of the USA to engage in a war with Russia.
Russia won WWII without question, they didn't need all that help to win.
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<quoted text>Russia won WWII without question, they didn't need all that help to win.
Sounds like you never took a history class in your life. The Soviet Union would have lost early on without help from the U.S. and U.K. Stalin realized this and had plans to move the capital east of the Ural Mountains and to cede all of Russian Europe to the Germans.

"The disastrous course of the initial Russian response to the German invasion, and the resulting enormous losses suffered by the Red Air Force, made it necessary for the Allies to provide massive reinforcements until Soviet industry could produce modern aircraft in large quantities. The first foreign aeroplanes to arrive were two squadrons of Hawker Hurricanes, which were flown in combat by RAF pilots in the autumn of 1941 and then handed over to the Russians (see picture on the left: the British pilots were playing football in the snow at Murmansk)."

"Under the Lend-Lease act large numbers of American aircraft were assigned to Russia. A total of 14,833 US aircraft of all types were sent to Russia between 1942 and 1944. Russian aircraft production 1942-1944 was 42,427 fighters and 11,797 bombersr (additional 30,506 ground attack planes), which results that approximately 20 per cent of the fighters and 30 per cent of the bombers of the Red Air Force were American-built and approx. 10 per cent of the fighters were British-built."

So, up to forty percent of all aircraft were supplied by the U.S. and the U.K., not to mention similar numbers of trucks, money, and food. The U.S. also supplied over 1,200 tanks (but the Red Army's were much better [see -- unlike you, I say the truth when it is the truth.).
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Zeligowski wrote:
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Anyway ask that Yank Abe if you don't believe me about willingness of the USA to engage in a war with Russia.
Russia won WWII without question, they didn't need all that help to win.
Russia needed a lot of help from America.

Huge supplies of clothing, food and ammunition was delivered to Russia from America during WWII.
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Zeligowski wrote:
Thats my prediction based on observation. Do you have any arguments to the contrary ?
How about few words in the Polish language, you are Polish right?
Maybe you are pretending to be Polish in order to incite anti-polish sentiment in Russia and anti-Russian sentiment in Poland? To what end?
I have nothing against Russians in general.

Just guys like you.

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Sounds like you never took a history class in your life. The Soviet Union would have lost early on without help from the U.S. and U.K. Stalin realized this and had plans to move the capital east of the Ural Mountains and to cede all of Russian Europe to the Germans.
"The disastrous course of the initial Russian response to the German invasion, and the resulting enormous losses suffered by the Red Air Force, made it necessary for the Allies to provide massive reinforcements until Soviet industry could produce modern aircraft in large quantities. The first foreign aeroplanes to arrive were two squadrons of Hawker Hurricanes, which were flown in combat by RAF pilots in the autumn of 1941 and then handed over to the Russians (see picture on the left: the British pilots were playing football in the snow at Murmansk)."
"Under the Lend-Lease act large numbers of American aircraft were assigned to Russia. A total of 14,833 US aircraft of all types were sent to Russia between 1942 and 1944. Russian aircraft production 1942-1944 was 42,427 fighters and 11,797 bombersr (additional 30,506 ground attack planes), which results that approximately 20 per cent of the fighters and 30 per cent of the bombers of the Red Air Force were American-built and approx. 10 per cent of the fighters were British-built."
So, up to forty percent of all aircraft were supplied by the U.S. and the U.K., not to mention similar numbers of trucks, money, and food. The U.S. also supplied over 1,200 tanks (but the Red Army's were much better [see -- unlike you, I say the truth when it is the truth.).
Very interesting information.
Zeligowski

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I have nothing against Russians in general.
Just guys like you.
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You are clueless Abe, have no idea whatsoever what my nationality is ..
Why you deem that important instead of paying attention to the arguments

I have never said that the USA hasn't send help, I have only said that without that help Russia would had won regardless.
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You are clueless Abe, have no idea whatsoever what my nationality is ..
Why you deem that important instead of paying attention to the arguments
I have never said that the USA hasn't send help, I have only said that without that help Russia would had won regardless.
Not true. They needed help at the beginning of the war and could not have won without allied help.
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Not true. They needed help at the beginning of the war and could not have won without allied help.
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Dec 16, 2011
 
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Lithuania become part of the Russian Empire in the foreseeable future.
I think that possibility is quite real, seeing the state of the affairs in the world.
Russian empire? What Russian empire? Russia will be fortunate if it exists in another 50 to 100 years. Russia does not have a replacement birth rate, except among its Muslim population.

Putin pays Russian women to have larger families, but they want noting to do with drunken Russian men. Can you blame them?

In 100 years, Muslims and Chinese will inhabit former Russia. Russian empire? You must be smoking Mongolian hash.
Zeligowski

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Russian empire? What Russian empire? Russia will be fortunate if it exists in another 50 to 100 years. Russia does not have a replacement birth rate, except among its Muslim population.
Putin pays Russian women to have larger families, but they want noting to do with drunken Russian men. Can you blame them?
In 100 years, Muslims and Chinese will inhabit former Russia. Russian empire? You must be smoking Mongolian hash.
Anything can happen, hard to say what will happen in the next hundred years.
Whereas Lithuania becoming part of the Russian sphere can become reality in a few years.
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Dec 16, 2011
 
Of course, Russia is a great country! And they win many wars-Hitler and Napoleon were lost when they wanted to win in this country, US begin to help at the end of war in 1944, they are help with the arms but Stalin paied with soviet gold, dont't say what you don't now, please.
And Russia is great empire just because it's most biggest country on the world.
Russia have a muslims population but this is a little part of country and all biggests countries have this part of population actually)).
What is Lituania? Little contry without industrie, who haven't naturels ressources...Russia don't want have it, so don't be affraid )), relax.
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Of course, Russia is a great country! And they win many wars-Hitler and Napoleon were lost when they wanted to win in this country, US begin to help at the end of war in 1944, they are help with the arms but Stalin paied with soviet gold, dont't say what you don't now, please.
Another fool that knows nothing about history, but yet has the audacity to attack those who do know history:

"The USSR was highly dependent on rail transportation, but the war practically shut down rail equipment production: only about 92 locomotives were produced. 2,000 locomotives and 11,000 railcars were supplied under Lend-Lease. Likewise, the Soviet air force received 18,700 aircraft, which amounted to about 14% of Soviet aircraft production (19% for military aircraft).[15]"

"Although most Red Army tank units were equipped with Soviet-built tanks, their logistical support was provided by hundreds of thousands of U.S.-made trucks. Indeed by 1945 nearly two-thirds of the truck strength of the Red Army was U.S.-built. Trucks such as the Dodge 3/4 ton and Studebaker 2½ ton, were easily the best trucks available in their class on either side on the Eastern Front. American shipments of telephone cable, aluminium, canned rations, and clothing were also critical.[16]"

"American deliveries to the Soviet Union can be divided into the following phases:
"pre Lend-lease" 22 June 1941 to 30 September 1941 (paid for in gold)
first protocol period from 1 October 1941 to 30 June 1942 (signed 1 October 1941)
second protocol period from 1 July 1942 to 30 June 1943 (signed 6 October 1942)
third protocol period from 1 July 1943 to 30 June 1944 (signed 19 October 1943)
fourth protocol period from 1 July 1944,(signed 17 April 1945), formally ended 12 May 1945 but deliveries continued for the duration of the war with Japan (which the Soviet Union entered on the 8 August 1945) under the "Milepost" agreement until 2 September 1945 when Japan capitulated. On 20 September 1945 all Lend-Lease to the Soviet Union was terminated."

The most critical deliveries under the Lend-Lease Program were made prior to the Battle of Leningrad, when the Soviet Union could not have survived without U.S. aid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
Zeligowski

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Dec 16, 2011
 
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Another fool that knows nothing about history, but yet has the audacity to attack those who do know history:
"The USSR was highly dependent on rail transportation, but the war practically shut down rail equipment production: only about 92 locomotives were produced. 2,000 locomotives and 11,000 railcars were supplied under Lend-Lease. Likewise, the Soviet air force received 18,700 aircraft, which amounted to about 14% of Soviet aircraft production (19% for military aircraft).[15]"
"Although most Red Army tank units were equipped with Soviet-built tanks, their logistical support was provided by hundreds of thousands of U.S.-made trucks. Indeed by 1945 nearly two-thirds of the truck strength of the Red Army was U.S.-built. Trucks such as the Dodge 3/4 ton and Studebaker 2½ ton, were easily the best trucks available in their class on either side on the Eastern Front. American shipments of telephone cable, aluminium, canned rations, and clothing were also critical.[16]"
"American deliveries to the Soviet Union can be divided into the following phases:
"pre Lend-lease" 22 June 1941 to 30 September 1941 (paid for in gold)
first protocol period from 1 October 1941 to 30 June 1942 (signed 1 October 1941)
second protocol period from 1 July 1942 to 30 June 1943 (signed 6 October 1942)
third protocol period from 1 July 1943 to 30 June 1944 (signed 19 October 1943)
fourth protocol period from 1 July 1944,(signed 17 April 1945), formally ended 12 May 1945 but deliveries continued for the duration of the war with Japan (which the Soviet Union entered on the 8 August 1945) under the "Milepost" agreement until 2 September 1945 when Japan capitulated. On 20 September 1945 all Lend-Lease to the Soviet Union was terminated."
The most critical deliveries under the Lend-Lease Program were made prior to the Battle of Leningrad, when the Soviet Union could not have survived without U.S. aid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
So what ? they helped some , but they didn't send all did they ? not even 50%,,,so what ?
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<quoted text>So what ? they helped some , but they didn't send all did they ? not even 50%,,,so what ?
If it takes five gallons of gas to travel to a particular city and you only have four gallons, then you will not make it. The Red Army barely hung on in the early years of the war. They needed everything they had to prevail. The U.S. supplied hundreds of thousands of trucks, 2,000 locomotives, and 11,000 rail cars. Do you think that the Red Army could have hung on without the transport of food, clothing, guns, and munitions to the front lines of the war?

You have no common sense and cannot think rationally. I guess you aren't Russian after all. You know nothing about the Battle of Leningrad or how close the Soviet Army came to disaster. Without American supplies, the Red Army could not have hung on until the turning point of the war at the Battle of Leningrad.

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