Dual Citizenship In Lithuania

Such cases happen, only for the Non-European citizens, since the European Union is borderless and any European citizen from European Union is fully entitled to live and work within any of the European Unions country legally, without no work permits required under his or hers European citizenship. We got schengen zones established in Europe. Lithuania is a schengen zone, just like the Western European countries. Meaning that we can travel, live and work all across the EU, without even being asked for an ID, just like the rest of the genuine Europeans can do so in Lithuania. Its a free travel trade and labor zone, within Europe. But once you arrive at the Lithuanian borders, you come up to the point, where you have to pass through immigration. There are three posts on the borders, One line for the Europeans, another line for the Non-Europeans, and a Third Line for the Asylum Seekers without no documents and no VISAS. Europeans go through the European post, and are let in in one second. The non-Europeans are going through the second Non-EURO arrivals post, and are being questioned plus getting their VISAS checked, the Asylum seekers on the third post, are being collected, housed and looked after in Vilnius if they choose to do so, until they are being granted a legal entry, or if they don't want to do so, they are given a chance to stay in the airport and wait for the next available flight, and are being sent back to their countries where they came from. Its an easy procedure.

Jeff Jhb wrote:

Veritas. I still don't get what you are trying to say about the heritage route to regaining citizenship.

I have a formal letter from an Embassy official stating that they recognise the 'descent' documentation (that took years to process).

"Q1: Is this 'The Right To Citizenship Letter' you keep referring to? If I want to take the next step I have to renounce, send them proof of renunciation etc wait for passport etc. That I fully understand?"

Yes, that is what I meant. It sounds as if you are good to go (literally).

I am not sure if "Right To Citizenship Letter" is the official title of the document. I simply used the document title used by a previous poster, who sounded as if he went through the process.

"Q2:What if one has to 'flee'/get out fast, but having not renounced; what then? where does one stand without renouncing but simply arrives like a 'refugee' in Vilnius with letter in hand."

If you arrive without any passport, then UK Lithuanian's reasoning probably applies. You would be treated like an illegal alien until everything was sorted out.

But if you are preparing for a worst-case bug-out scenario, why not simply have an emergency plan in place? Arrive in LT as a tourist on your South African passport and the next morning arrive at the LT Migration Department with your "Right To Citizenship Letter" in hand. You would have ninety days to sort everything out and to receive your LT passport.

There are other things that you can do to prepare:

1. Know whether LT requires a visa from SA citizens and how long you can stay.(U.S. citizens require no visa and can stay ninety days.)

2. If a visa is required, have a blank copy on hand and know how long it takes to process and where to process it. Some countries allow you to process a visa upon arrival.

3. Contact the LT consulate and find out EXACTLY what renounciation entails and how long it takes. Make sure you have all SA documents that you need for the future.

4. Another option is to bug out to a safe and cheap African country, where you can lawfully wait until LT processes your renounciation.

These are just a few ideas. The important point is to have a plan in place and to be as prepared as possible.

The London riots prove that it is always prudent to have an emergency bug out plan in place, especially in unsettled political or economic times -- and especially if your home nation does not allow you to arm yourselves against lawlessness (which is one of the nice things about the U.S., except the ulra-liberal large cities). Fight or flee. If your government will not let you protect yourself, bug out!

Jeff Jhb wrote:

Veritas. I still don't get what you are trying to say about the heritage route to regaining citizenship.

If you want to read an entertaining book about bugging out, read "Emergency: This Book Will Save Your Life," by Neil Strauss.

It details his experiences in preparing for a worst case bug out scenario (either out of the neighborhood or out of the country). In his case, he obtained a second citizenship by investing in St. Kitts (a very expensive proposition). You are very lucky to have Lithuanian heritage and a fairly easy opportunity at alternative citizenship at little cost.

http://www.amazon.com/Emergency-This-Book-Wil...

I think South Africans do need a VISA to get in to the Lithuania, even as tourists :-)

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I think if you have a Certificate of Right of Retention, you do not need a visa - check with the embassy.

Jeff - I don't find your e mail address, please e mail me on ggochin@gmail.com

Lithuanian wrote:

I think South Africans do need a VISA to get in to the Lithuania, even as tourists :-)

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Why would anybody not want to give up their current citizenship, and try to have dual, you cannot serve two masters (countries)at the same time?
I gave up the citizenship of the pigsty I was born in (Brazilian in this instance)and got my Lithuanian citizenship, and I`m very proud of my Lithuanian citizenship. Those who want to retain their current citizenship and also obtain the Lithuanian one should be denied outright.

Jurgis wrote:

Why would anybody not want to give up their current citizenship, and try to have dual, you cannot serve two masters (countries)at the same time?
I gave up the citizenship of the pigsty I was born in (Brazilian in this instance)and got my Lithuanian citizenship, and I`m very proud of my Lithuanian citizenship. Those who want to retain their current citizenship and also obtain the Lithuanian one should be denied outright.

The rather obvious answer is that not all of us were born in a pig sty. I am proud to be an American, but I am also proud of my Lithuanian heritage. I do not serve two masters, because I was born a free man and I therefore have no master.
In addition, dual Lithuanian citizenship is reserved for a narrow class of people (and their children and grandchildren) who fled from the Soviet occupation. It is not granted to anyone who voluntarily left Lithuania.
Brazil is a beautiful country with many natural resources, including beautiful women. Obviously, crime and corruption is a problem, but hopefully the country will overcome those problems. Obviously, if you lived there, then you know much more. What did you dislike so much about Brazil?

In order to get my daughter into a school in England I need to make her a citizen of the European Union. Her grandmother is was born in Lithuania, but left when she was very young and has no proof of citizenship (but it does say on her South African passport that she was born in Lithuania and she has her father's naturalization papers). Is it possible to make my daughter a Lituanian citizen? My email is chovosh@gmail.com

Is immigration allowed for Asian Country of Lithunia,if so please guide me as I wish to migrate me and my family from Pakistan.My email address is zhassan64@hotmail.com

David wrote:

In order to get my daughter into a school in England I need to make her a citizen of the European Union. Her grandmother is was born in Lithuania, but left when she was very young and has no proof of citizenship (but it does say on her South African passport that she was born in Lithuania and she has her father's naturalization papers). Is it possible to make my daughter a Lituanian citizen? My email is chovosh@gmail.com

Read all the posts and then come back with specific questions. No one can answer your question without specific dates and other information.

It surely couldn't be as difficult as getting a US or Australian passport?
Oh well, I'm a tri-national (Hungary, USA, AUS).

Good luck mate!

Aside from the Jewish debate an actual question regarding citizenship...

My mother was born in Lithuania and came to the US after 1940. We have been looking at getting a Lithuanian passport/citizenship for some time and we just end up getting the run around from various agencies. Can anyone point me to some clear information regarding citizenship even if it's a link to a previous comment? All I'm seeing is a lot of debate regarding topics that have very little to do with citizenship.
Thanks and Aciu!

All the information that you need is on this thread. All you must do is read it. No one will help if you are just being lazy. Once again, here is a link to the actual law in English:

http://www3.lrs.lt/pls/inter3/dokpaieska.show...

For dual citizenship, you must prove that your mother fled Lithuania after the June 15, 1940 Soviet invasion. Dual citizen is only available to those who were forced to leave because of the occupation (or their descendants).

This site is also very helpful:

http://www.lithchat.com/iseivija/proving-lith...

I suggest that you read everything and then come back with specific questions. There is no reason to use an agency (whatever that means). The LT Consulate is very helpful, providing that you have the proper documents as proof.

I had an interview with the Lithuanian Embassy consul staff in Melbourne in November to become a dual national of Lithuania/Australia. It's a fairly strung out process. I had more than enough paperwork and it was all correct (I recommend having more than enough paperwork)

If anyone has any questions on dual citizenship I'm happy to help out. jason@jasontresize.net

No wonder we had a world war I and II listen to most of yu on this page. Shame for sure. I do not live i a fairy land but its time to let this madness lay. In the end all we all want is freedom, a roof over our and familes heads a job and food for the table. A little chance to live free of others ruling ae every move a time to teach our young about there ancesters to teach about the day of yestrday. I would give my right arm to be able to visit Lithunia to see where my grandparentd and great G-parens live and worked and sang and laught. Because of illness and age I cant go there but I would kiss the ground or at least small the good earth. Grow up life i short

This post is important for South Africans applying for any form of LT citizenship let alone Dual Citizenship(by right of Descent). See new law and regulations promulgated in Dec 2010 and 1 April 2011. http://www3.lrs.lt/pls/inter3/dokpaieska.show...
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South African Consular Service

It seems that given the above there is probably a 'flood' of applicants once again from South Africa. Note the following:

REGARDING THE APPLICATIONS OF CITIZENS OF THE REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA FOR THE REINSTATEMENT OF THE CITIZENSHIP OF THE REPUBLIC OF LITHUANIA

The Embassy of the Republic of Lithuania kindly informs that starting from 10 March 2012 the applications for the reinstatement of the citizenship of the Republic of Lithuania will only be accepted in person at the Embassy of the Republic of Lithuania in Tel Aviv according to previous registration. The applications may also be submitted at the Migration Department under the Ministry of Interior of the Republic of Lithuania.

A consular mission to the Republic of South Africa is being planned in the second part of 2012. During the mission it will be possible to submit the applications for the reinstatement of the citizenship of the Republic of Lithuania; other consular services will also be provided. The exact date of the mission will be announced on the webpage of the Embassy later this year. Persons willing to receive information regarding the consular mission by e-mail may register at amb.il@urm.lt.

Wow, you sure are one racist Jew with a sense of entitlement, aren't you? Lithuania OWES you citizenship?? The statement that there are good and bad in every race is not something used to justify genocide, as you blatantly claim. Also, the whole thing about Jews being targeted because they supported communism is a load of crap as well. Then you make some lame half assed excuse about how the poor Jews turned to communism because it offered a "release from anti-semitism". The Jews INVENTED communism, you idiot. One thing we can agree upon, the Jews have been a target of hate throughout human history in whatever country they have set foot in. You'd say this is through no fault of their own.... people in every country everywhere throughout history just seems to hate the Jews for no apparent reason at all. What's the fallacy with that argument?

IAN DE SAXE wrote:

In fact is has been well documented, including by Lithuanians themselves, that Lithuanians did collaborate in a big way with Nazis and did a lot of the hands-on killing.
Of course, there were non-Jewish Lithuanians (yes the Jews were also Lithuanian) who saved a few Jews, and this has been officially recognised.
Prior to WWI thousands of Jews left Lithuania because of Russian and Lithuanian anti-semitism and pogroms. The first thing Lithuania needs to do to make some reparation to our families is to grant us dual nationality. Then perhaps our rather jaundiced view of modern Lithuania might diminish.
Your grandfather used to say "There's a good Jew and a bad Jew". I.e. Jews are just the same as all other people!! Surprise surprise. Anyhow, that sort of comment is always the first step to condoning genocide, implying it is OK to murder "the bad Jews".
Of course the reason the gentile Lithuanians (some) hated the Jews were because they were supporters of Communism - their right, of course, and of course because nobody except the Communists offered release from the anti-semitism of the times.
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