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Mar 7, 2008 | Posted by: coolncrazy

Latvia gives go ahead for Nazi march

Full story: en.rian.ru

Authorities in Riga, gave the go ahead for a Latvian Legion group to hold a public event to commemorate Latvians who fought for the Nazis during WWII, a parliamentary official said Friday. Riga authorities turned down four applications by other groups but agreed to allow the Daugavas Vanagi organization, a Latvian veteran group, to hold a short street march on March 16 in the country's capital to honor former Latvian soldiers and members of the Waffen-SS. A Latvian Legion march in 2005 through Riga resulted in dozens of arrests after clashes with Russian activists. The march involved WWII SS veterans and young nationalists.

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Well it looks like the Baltics who don't have parades honoring NAZI's are having an event honoring NAZI's. Oh well, they are independent and they can be as callous as they like, at the same time expecting favorable economic relations with Russia. I wonder how it will be taken in Russia and if it will endear the the Latvians to better economic relatio.

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I think a counter event should take place, with people who disagree with the march, pointedly staying home and closing their curtains, or if caught outside and faced with this Nazi demonstration pointedly turning their backs or covering their eyes and plugging their ears. Perhaps people who are againt the march could gather in places and play some stirring world war II music to commemorate the soldier who defeated the NAZI's.

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Who cares about Russia,and yeah I and We Latvians do what we want(in our ethnic fatherland) it's our history not your's.They fight for Latvian freedom,they were Latvians,and under Latvian flag fight.
Deal whit your own slavery history! first and then star other's teach:P

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Native Americans hmm were are they now o.0 ?
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varjuga wrote:
Who cares about Russia,and yeah I and We Latvians do what we want(in our ethnic fatherland) it's our history not your's.They fight for Latvian freedom,they were Latvians,and under Latvian flag fight.
Deal whit your own slavery history! first and then star other's teach:P
Uh! What slavery issue is that. Personally I don't care about Latvia or any of the Nazi loving countries, and wouldn't spend a dime to visit one.
I don't care what Latvia or those of your ilk do. I have no interest in the Baltics at all.
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Mar 8, 2008
 
varjuga
Well, ok, lets list latvian nazi only as fighters for freedom yada yada yada (thou it surely wasn't only so, I mean it mostly wasn't so. Estonian nazi were the way better on that parameter and didn't that much took part in jewish-slavic-gypsy "cleansings"). But what about those bunches of agressive teen imbecils, who gather with your veterans.
It is also pretty interesting, how could they be fighters for independence, when by fighting the Soviets, they strengthen Fascist's occupation and neither technically, nor logically they were freedom-fighters. What about lists of vistims: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_La... , were they for the name of fighting for independence too? Otherwise it means that Hitler was freedom fighter as well. Explain that all if you can.

PS Does name "varjuga" refer to russian language, or what it is?

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varjuga wrote:
Native Americans hmm were are they now o.0 ?
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Well neither I nor my relatives were here when the American Indian natives were being killed off. That was well before my time and the remnants of the Indian nations are on reservations where today they have made laws where they can build casinos and they are not all dead.

I wouldn't however, consider the NAZIs who were going to kill off all of the Jewish and Slavic race leaving only a few for slavery as Heroes to fight with. And how do you know that you Latvians would have been racially pure enough to remain alive, as you have plenty of slavic in you as well. Maybe if you had fought for the NAZIS and they had won they might have decided that they would rather keep your land for the NAZI heros and you weren't pure enough.

In any case I don't care what celebrations for Nazi's you have. However, I feel for the populaton who doesn't agree with your love for NAZIs.

Personally, I hope I can finally go to Russia on May 9th to ee the victory parade over your beloved Nazi's and celebration there. Now that is a celebration worthy of seeing in my opinion.

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1)When Riga was occupation,Hitler promise give formal freedom to Latvia,if Latvian soldiers take back all Latvian territory,to give later freedom!
Many people believe then Nazi say true,because in 1941 year mass deportations to distant regions of the USSR:prison camps and forced resettlement- deportation and execution of political prisoners.
Not it's Estonian language:P nick
2)1940 year, about75% was Latvians!
Sorry I don't care what you celebrate,in my look even other people rape.
No one love Nazi in Latvia today you communist,propagandist>. < If you don't like Latvians then say so.........

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If USSR in 1941 don't deported Latvians,then i don't think so many will joined SS and fight so good together whit Germans in Courland,at the end of war:)
Latvian SS Legions 15 and 19 don't killed jews!
Only mongol-tatars.

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varjuga wrote:
1)When Riga was occupation,Hitler promise give formal freedom to Latvia,if Latvian soldiers take back all Latvian territory,to give later freedom!
Many people believe then Nazi say true,because in 1941 year mass deportations to distant regions of the USSR:prison camps and forced resettlement- deportation and execution of political prisoners.
Not it's Estonian language:P nick
2)1940 year, about75% was Latvians!
Sorry I don't care what you celebrate,in my look even other people rape.
No one love Nazi in Latvia today you communist,propagandist>. < If you don't like Latvians then say so.........
I see. I don't like NAZIs but I do understand that people in the Soviet Union suffered under the Soviets as well. I don't like parades which celebrate Nazi's because they were going to kill off all the Slavs after they killed the Jews. But I do not beleive that the NAZI's would have given the Latvians the country of Latvia just like I do not beleive that Hilter would have given the Ukrainaians the Ukraine becaue it was prime land and he wanted it for German, so I beleive that people would have helped Hitler for nothing as he wa not to be trusted.
Iam very glad that the NAZI's were defeated.
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I don't care what Latvia or those of your ilk do. I have no interest in the Baltics at all.
Russia and Russians have no interest in those Baltics Nazi Midgets at all Also.
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Mar 9, 2008
 
Very one-sided coverage of the event by coolncrazy.

the article contains the following paragraph:

"Although Latvian Legion day, which was revived in the 1990s, does not specifically celebrate the SS by name, claiming to honor all those who fought in the war, the holiday was subsequently cancelled after international pressure."

So, no celebrations for SS, no celebrations for Waffen SS, no celebrations for nazis.

As for the Latvian Legion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Legion

"Technically, it was a volunteer unit, but one month after the unit was founded, German occupation authorities in Latvia started conscripting military age men. They were given a choice between "volunteering" for SS Waffen legions, serving in the German army (Wehrmacht) as "auxiliaries" (laborers behind the front lines), commanded by German officers and often treated as subhumans, or being sent to a slave labor camp in Germany. Those who tried to avoid either of those options were arrested and sent to concentration camps.[2] As a result, only 15-20% of the soldiers serving in the legion were actual volunteers.["

So you see, at least 80% of the soldiers were conscripts. And so were most of the soldiers in Soviet Army.

Equal treatment - if Russia has its Soviet Union Red Army parades, Latvia can have its Legion parades. It is humane to let the veterans march, but it is important not to let the events to herald communism or nazism or stalinism or hitlerism, or bring about new conflicts. If new conflicts arise, all such parades (both Red Army and Legion marches) have to be banned. Equal treatment.
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Not it's Estonian language:P nick
There can be many interpretations of "varjuga" in estonian language. Is it OK to give my interpretations?
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More from Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Legion#W...

"The Latvian Legion was not involved in Holocaust, since it was founded more than a year after Latvian Jews were executed or sent to concentration camps. Some of the Latvian Legion soldiers were, however, part of death squads (such as the infamous Arajs Commando) prior to them joining the legion.

Many Latvian historians insist that the Latvian Legion itself was only a combat unit and did not participate in any war crimes. This is questioned by Russian historians who claim that the legion burned villages and conducted mass executions of Russian civilians during the operations against guerrilla fighters in the parts of Russia occupied by Nazi Germany."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Legion#A...

"In 1946, Nuremberg tribunal declared the Waffen SS to be a criminal organization, making an exception of people who were forcibly conscripted. Throughout the post-war years, Allies would apply this exception to the soldiers of Latvian Legion and Estonian Legion. US Displaced Persons Commission in September 1950 declared that:

The Baltic Waffen SS Units (Baltic Legions) are to be considered as separate and distinct in purpose, ideology, activities, and qualifications for membership from the German SS, and therefore the Commission holds them not to be a movement hostile to the Government of the United States.[4]

Even before this decision, about 1000 former Latvian Legion soldiers served as guards at Nuremberg war crimes tribunal, guarding Nazi war criminals. This shows that Latvian Legion members were trusted by Allies and not viewed as Nazi collaborators."

Estonian soldiers were also in that guard duty.

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Russia and Russians have no interest in those Baltics Nazi Midgets at all Also.
Exactly! And those celebrations can be easily ignored by those who want no part of them.

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I don't care of Russians because normal Russians citizens have left Russia and soon you will be eliminated by Islam and immigrants :D
Better start live your own life!
I'm Latvian I'm proud.I'm white I'm proud.I'm humane I'm proud:) Dievs sveeti Latviju:)

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Yeah,but to me -varjuga it's nordic like norman,varjag,viking soldier;)
We don't have problems whit Nazi(glorification) only you have in Russia(Hail,Putin Tsar,cesar) and US'a >.<
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F@8k you meth head power sniffing coke head crackers go to hell white devils!

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Mar 9, 2008
 
Hell it's a place where like you and your sister and brother live(create for future)?
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Why doesn't Russia start prosecuting its NKVD army veterans who were guilty of genocides?
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