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Veritas

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#271
Nov 2, 2009
 
Anikitos wrote:
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You are just saying this to be obtuse, or you do really have this skewed image of liberals, which I sense is your disliked group.
Fact is racism, nationalism, all come from the right on the political spectrum. And you might be confusing conservatism with right wing politics. Or left wing with liberalism.
By no means am I calling all liberals racists. What I am saying is that certain liberals, like Ray, are just as racist as the skin heads who they chastise for their beliefs. This makes him a hypocrite without any moral authority to chastise others.

In the U.S., conservatives are proud to be called conservatives.

On the other hand, the socialists will never admit to being socialists. Too embarassing and it destroys their credibility. They will not even call themselves liberals. Even that is too embarassing. Now, they call themselves progressives. But once that word is linked to their socialist policies they will then need to find a new moniker.

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#272
Nov 3, 2009
 
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At least they are honest about what they believe. The liberal racists, such as Ray, are FAR more dangerous. They are just as racist, but they hide their racism and use it to mold our culture to fit their misguided political agenda.
Would you rather encounter a bear in the woods (that you know is dangerous but is large and easy to avoid) or a serpent (that you cannot see and which strikes without warning).
Ray, and racists of his ilk, are the serpents that poison our culture with their their hidden racism. No one takes skin heads seriously. Hypocrits like Ray are the dangerous ones.
I've read some of Ray's comments and they do not sound racist to me. What makes him racist and hypocrite?

Also, it is not ok to justtify skinhead attack simply because they are open about their hate. They are scum and cowards who prey on weaker groups and attack in packs that are 2-3 times larger than victims.
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#273
Nov 3, 2009
 
Just met an intelligent lithuwanian beauty! It's a shame that confined experiences and ignor-ance leads us to perceive certain people as the enemy. It is for this reason, I accept those who accept me, but I am never angry with those who wish that I did not exist. It's a shame as she adores me and I her, but my sub-concious mind full of stereotypical thoughts of us not being for each other, prevents me from embracing her fully.
Veritas

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Nov 3, 2009
 
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I've read some of Ray's comments and they do not sound racist to me. What makes him racist and hypocrite?
Well, you did not read all of them. I already posted this information eight posts earlier. Here are some classics from our friend from Brussels:

"I have to be a racist yes i am because the white man has done everything for me to be that way."

"All you white men look like albino monkeys. If i knew who you were i would probably kick your white ass so bad it would turn red. I think that the hope of finding good white people out there is hopeless."

He is just a black version of a skin head, with hate in his heart. He is no better than the skin heads that he denounces. In fact, he is even worse because he is also dishonest and a hypocrite.

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Nov 3, 2009
 
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Well, you did not read all of them. I already posted this information eight posts earlier. Here are some classics from our friend from Brussels:
"I have to be a racist yes i am because the white man has done everything for me to be that way."
"All you white men look like albino monkeys. If i knew who you were i would probably kick your white ass so bad it would turn red. I think that the hope of finding good white people out there is hopeless."
He is just a black version of a skin head, with hate in his heart. He is no better than the skin heads that he denounces. In fact, he is even worse because he is also dishonest and a hypocrite.
Did not find Ray making that comment. Found leopard making it. Not sure if they are same person or not. That does not matter. Even if he is racist, it is him and only him, him being liberal is incidental. I don't even know if he is politically liberal. Also, leopard made the comment in the heat of the moment to reply to blatantly racist post. You'd be surprised how low one can go when provoked. Still its no excuse. I can tell you one thing - that conservatives and liberals should put aside differences and battle BASIC human injustices. only if we get hung up on minor things can we be controlled by fear and contempt towards fellow human.
Baltas

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Nov 5, 2009
 
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Listen, your overt racism and xenophobia does not give you much cred either.
It is evident from my post, which you have used in attempt to discredit my Latvian nationality, that I was describing nazi's in Latvia as a shame for my country. It was pretty clear to everyone that my reference to a country, which is the article is about (Latvia) as mine would definitely not make me Lithuanian, I dont see how you missed that.
Your accusations in broken Lithuanian of me being communist or a jew, as if that would somehow be shameful gave you a title of moron. Perhaps I was too quick to jump the gun. Prove me wrong.
Pay attention to what I wrote in my previous posts, I did not accuse you of being a communist nor Jew. I've asked you about your ethnicity (remember ethnicity is not the same as nationality) because of your reply to one of Veritas' posts in broken Russian.
So let me ask you again what ethnicity are you to make an assertion of Latvia being your country so you can slag off Veritas?
By the way people like you call their opponents "nazi" and "racist" just because their dare to object your politically correct, double standardised, hypocritical views. Nazi, racist, fascist, xenophobic are meaningless word to me.

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Nov 5, 2009
 
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Pay attention to what I wrote in my previous posts, I did not accuse you of being a communist nor Jew. I've asked you about your ethnicity (remember ethnicity is not the same as nationality) because of your reply to one of Veritas' posts in broken Russian.
So let me ask you again what ethnicity are you to make an assertion of Latvia being your country so you can slag off Veritas?
By the way people like you call their opponents "nazi" and "racist" just because their dare to object your politically correct, double standardised, hypocritical views. Nazi, racist, fascist, xenophobic are meaningless word to me.
Like I said I dont speak Lithuanian, from what I gathered knowing some Latvian and Lithuanian being fairly close, that is what your post sounded like. As far as replying to Veritas in russian, it never happened. I replied to Doxia.-

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black culture... many curious about black culture? many is subjective..its minimal in reality.

Nu ti i durak.. Sovsem estonec zatormozil.

Should I have replied to him in Latvian? Russian is one language that Estonians, Latvians, Russians, and Lithuanins all have some functional understanding in Baltics. BTW, Russian was not bad at all, I am fluent.

What nationality am I ? Well my Latvian passport says I am Latvian. Is that good enough? Accusing someone a nazi, is perfectly logical when someone subscribes to the national socialist ideology.
Veritas

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Nov 5, 2009
 
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Accusing someone a nazi, is perfectly logical when someone subscribes to the national socialist ideology.
Well, at least you are honest enough to admit that the Nazis practiced a form of socialism. It is a little known fact that in the early days of the Nazi Party in Germany (before a breach made them mortal enemies) the Nazi Party patterned themselves after, and adopted many of the practices, of the Russian communists. As a result, they both practised a form of totalitarianism that cannot be merely categorized as far-right or far-left.

On the other hand, Baltas is correct that modern leftists often resort to calling someone a Nazi at the drop of the hat (e.g., you are a Nazi because you believe in a sane immigration policy or reject gay marriage). This is usually a sign that they have lost the argument and are resorting to name-calling to smear a political opponent.

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Nov 5, 2009
 
Veritas wrote:
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Well, at least you are honest enough to admit that the Nazis practiced a form of socialism. It is a little known fact that in the early days of the Nazi Party in Germany (before a breach made them mortal enemies) the Nazi Party patterned themselves after, and adopted many of the practices, of the Russian communists. As a result, they both practised a form of totalitarianism that cannot be merely categorized as far-right or far-left.
On the other hand, Baltas is correct that modern leftists often resort to calling someone a Nazi at the drop of the hat (e.g., you are a Nazi because you believe in a sane immigration policy or reject gay marriage). This is usually a sign that they have lost the argument and are resorting to name-calling to smear a political opponent.
You going play "twist my words" game?

Communists and social democrats were the only parties that have not joined nazi block in reichstag.
Communist party never joined because they have viewed joining other parties under one roof as "selling out" and abandoning their single party ideology, and social democrats have never joined because they were simply polar opposites when it came to political ideology. Communists were mortal enemies with NSDP, because they could not be dealt with except through violent means. And while social democrats were a huge roadblock, they were dealt with through legal parliamentary process.

The only socialist in nazi party was the the word "socialist" which was extremely popular in Germany in the first 3 decades of 20th century. Hell, Germany had first Universal health-care system.
No thanks to nazi's, actually if you look closely into the policies of NSDP, none would be considered socialist. They were as anti socialist as you can get.

You might be confusing the only commonality that fascism and communism has - single party system and dictatorship.

No, someone is a nazi that follows/subscribes to national socialist policies. Not all german nazis were gassing jews, many were just men that loved their country. Wrong place wrong time.
Baltas

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Nov 9, 2009
 
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You going play "twist my words" game?
Communists and social democrats were the only parties that have not joined nazi block in reichstag.
Communist party never joined because they have viewed joining other parties under one roof as "selling out" and abandoning their single party ideology, and social democrats have never joined because they were simply polar opposites when it came to political ideology. Communists were mortal enemies with NSDP, because they could not be dealt with except through violent means. And while social democrats were a huge roadblock, they were dealt with through legal parliamentary process.
The only socialist in nazi party was the the word "socialist" which was extremely popular in Germany in the first 3 decades of 20th century. Hell, Germany had first Universal health-care system.
No thanks to nazi's, actually if you look closely into the policies of NSDP, none would be considered socialist. They were as anti socialist as you can get.
You might be confusing the only commonality that fascism and communism has - single party system and dictatorship.
No, someone is a nazi that follows/subscribes to national socialist policies. Not all german nazis were gassing jews, many were just men that loved their country. Wrong place wrong time.
And again you dodging my question. I thought I asked you clearly in my last post What is your ETHNICITY? I don't care what it says in your passport about nationality...
You are the one who's twisting the words here. What difference does it make to whom you replied in Russian because the only post in Russian here is yours. So WHO ARE YOU?
And what facts/proof do you hold of me "subscribing" to national socialist policies?
Baltas

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#281
Nov 9, 2009
 
Please ignore my last question I've realised that you didn't refer to me as nazi but only as to racist and xenophobic.

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#282
Nov 9, 2009
 
Baltas wrote:
Please ignore my last question I've realised that you didn't refer to me as nazi but only as to racist and xenophobic.
Latvia is my country, I am latvian.
Baltas

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Nov 10, 2009
 
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Latvia is my country, I am latvian.
- said Chinese.
aurimas

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#285
Saturday Nov 28
 
Huckleberry wrote:
Those skinheads should be publically whipped in the town square! They are ignorant,imbeciles,fools,
idiots, unintelligent, senseless, driveling, idiots who are scum bags worth less than rotten garbage.
finally skinheads are doing something...
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