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AHMADINEJAD: No possibility of war between Iran and US, Israel.

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Thursday Jul 24
 
pjam2825 wrote:
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What is wanted is a unified state where Arab and Jew have equal rights, nothing else will do, why have the Palestinians been segregated from there Arab Israeli and Jewish brothers?
If we are to have a Jewish state it must be Jewish not secular as Jewish law is in harmony with Islam.
Palestinians would happily live under Jewish rule if aloud to participate in the democratic process, as is the case under Islam in Iran where Christians, Jews and all minorities have full voting rights.
Why do you think you can dictate the parameters of another nation including their degree of religious law? Perhaps that is why there is so much censorship in Iran reflecting the government's insecurity in letting the population have free will. That is an INVASION of freedom.

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Jonathan wrote:
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Why do you think you can dictate the parameters of another nation including their degree of religious law? Perhaps that is why there is so much censorship in Iran reflecting the government's insecurity in letting the population have free will. That is an INVASION of freedom.
The Jewish state was established to protect the Jewish faith the whole pretext for Israel’s establishment was to give Jews a state of there own.
I can’t understand why people think that a Jew is a nationality Jews are peoples of the world that follow the laws of Abraham as layed out in the Torah. There are Russian Jews, Black Ethiopian Jews, Australian Jews most nation has Jewish communities and these Jews are as Jewish as those living in the Middle East.

It is not a Jewish state if it is secular, it is a secular state where Jews live under secular rule, Jews can do this in any country. The Jewish peoples have been denied there Jewish state and the Zionist nationalists have imposed there secular system over that of the Jewish prophets.
What was promised the Jews and the Palestinians was a Jewish state not a secular one.

Where is the Jewish state that was agreed to?

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Thursday Jul 24
 
AbdulQ wrote:
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You are a master propagandist. However, your self assessment is ambiguous and defensive. Thanks anyway.
Can you please explain which one
Ambiguous
1. open to or having several possible meanings or interpretations; equivocal: an ambiguous answer.
2. Linguistics.(of an expression) exhibiting constructional homonymity; having two or more structural descriptions, as the sequence Flying planes can be dangerous.
3. of doubtful or uncertain nature; difficult to comprehend, distinguish, or classify: a rock of ambiguous character.
4. lacking clearness or definiteness; obscure; indistinct: an ambiguous shape; an ambiguous future.
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Thursday Jul 24
 
Who is better at mass killing for allah in the name of fun, shias or sunnis?
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Thursday Jul 24
 
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If I remember correctly the Zionist objective was to expel Hezbollah from southern Lebanon. Hezbollah instead expelled the Zionists and now Hezbollah has global support adding to it growing domestic support amongst all Lebanese including Christians.
This current hostage swap is all to do with the Zionists making themselves look like moderates which is helpful if your looking to be aggressive.
What are you talking about in regards to ww2?
Hitler was a corporate man when he’d finished directing the restructuring his stocks were liquidated, so the new directors could take control as planed.
But politics got in the way and the Israeli army was fighting with hands tied.Saladin would laugh at likes of sirria and iran/iraq The point l was making is that better to have the incompetant runing the hezzbulla. Supplied by that cockroach dinnerjacet we wouldnt want that little t,wat loose his job lovable little glove puppet that he is.!!

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Thursday Jul 24
 
pjam2825 wrote:
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The news media has a social responsibility to report the truth, If media uses the word News people expect that not only the stories be based in reality but have had a degree of fact checking and truth.
The word NEWS needs to be highly regulated and violators prosecuted, News media has the power to drive peoples to war through their lies, in these situations I favour the death penalty
The only news media that has that power is the news media controlled by the state. A free media does not have that power because a free media will always have a dissenting voice. For instance, the Egyptian news media is controlled by the state. During the 67 war the news media broadcast lies and propaganda. That is one reason the Egyptians were so thoroughly defeated.

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The Jewish state was established to protect the Jewish faith the whole pretext for Israel’s establishment was to give Jews a state of there own.
I can’t understand why people think that a Jew is a nationality Jews are peoples of the world that follow the laws of Abraham as layed out in the Torah. There are Russian Jews, Black Ethiopian Jews, Australian Jews most nation has Jewish communities and these Jews are as Jewish as those living in the Middle East.
It is not a Jewish state if it is secular, it is a secular state where Jews live under secular rule, Jews can do this in any country. The Jewish peoples have been denied there Jewish state and the Zionist nationalists have imposed there secular system over that of the Jewish prophets.
What was promised the Jews and the Palestinians was a Jewish state not a secular one.
Where is the Jewish state that was agreed to?
So you can look into a man's heart and see what is there? How can you regulate belief in god? How can you legislate belief in god? This makes no sense.

Except that mohammed legislated belief in Allah by the blade of his sword. But is this a true conversion? When you condem people to death how can you be sure you have won their heart? Maybe they are fibbing.
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Thursday Jul 24
 
Foresttoday wrote:
This idiot President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sounds a lot like our Obama. First he signs his death warrent, by going public and saying that Israel should be removed from he Middle East and pushed into the sea, then he tells the U.S. and Israel that if they start a war that he will attack all Israelis and U.S. citizens around the world.
Now, after he has thought about his dumb remarks he is saying that there is no Possibility of War between Iran and either Israel or the U.S. did I just experience a flip flop??:-) I suspect that tomorrow he will tell the world that he is still going full steam ahead on building his first Nuclear power plant. Only he forgets that his first Nuclear power plant is not for electric power but a little explosion to eleminate Tel Aiv!
If anyone believes anything this child says, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them.
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Jusssst a second, Buddy. I bought that bridge just last week from some guy who wanted a Change.

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Thursday Jul 24
 
Frank wrote:
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I did a google search. So they might be related. What's shoking about it?

Duuhhhhh....
The fact that Muslim terrorist Raila Odinga (Obama's cousin)-------attempted to overthrow the government in Kenya----murdered MANY people who got in his way-----so that he could put in a government of Islam/Sharia Law.
Obama just visited his cousin Raila Odinga in August, 2006 (Google it, if you do not believe me)----and took a recent phone call from cousin Raila during the New Hampshire primaries.
Know wonder some of you are Obama zombies.
I know, I know, what you Obama zombies will say......
There could be many of us who have family members who are Muslim terrorists, try to overthrow governments, and murder anybody/anyone who got in the way.
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Thursday Jul 24
 
The people who supplied Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction and later invaded Iraq and mass murdered Iraqis must be charged with International crimes.

Those who cooperated with these terrorists to increase their money will be sorry because God has already started to take away their power.

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Thursday Jul 24
 
payandehiran wrote:
The people who supplied Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction and later invaded Iraq and mass murdered Iraqis must be charged with International crimes.
Those who cooperated with these terrorists to increase their money will be sorry because God has already started to take away their power.
WE supplied Saddam his chemical weapons. Are you talking about US?

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Thursday Jul 24
 
falasha wrote:
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WE supplied Saddam his chemical weapons. Are you talking about US?
On August 18, 2002, the New York Times carried a front-page story headlined, "Officers say U.S. aided Iraq despite the use of gas". Quoting anonymous US "senior military officers", the NYT "revealed" that in the 1980s, the administration of US President Ronald Reagan covertly provided "critical battle planning assistance at a time when American intelligence knew that Iraqi commanders would employ chemical weapons in waging the decisive battles of the Iran-Iraq war". The story made a brief splash in the international media, then died.

While the August 18 NYT article added new details about the extent of US military collaboration with Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein during Iraq's 1980-88 war with Iran, it omitted the most outrageous aspect of the scandal: not only did Ronald Reagan's Washington turn a blind-eye to the Hussein regime's repeated use of chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers and Iraq's Kurdish minority, but the US helped Iraq develop its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs.

http://www.counterpunch.org/dixon06172004.htm...
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pjam2825 wrote:
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On August 18, 2002, the New York Times carried a front-page story headlined, "Officers say U.S. aided Iraq despite the use of gas". Quoting anonymous US "senior military officers", the NYT "revealed" that in the 1980s, the administration of US President Ronald Reagan covertly provided "critical battle planning assistance at a time when American intelligence knew that Iraqi commanders would employ chemical weapons in waging the decisive battles of the Iran-Iraq war". The story made a brief splash in the international media, then died.
While the August 18 NYT article added new details about the extent of US military collaboration with Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein during Iraq's 1980-88 war with Iran, it omitted the most outrageous aspect of the scandal: not only did Ronald Reagan's Washington turn a blind-eye to the Hussein regime's repeated use of chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers and Iraq's Kurdish minority, but the US helped Iraq develop its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs.
http://www.counterpunch.org/dixon06172004.htm...
New York Times? I believe in all that they write. I am a liberal Kool aid drinking robot.
I must watch counterpunch.org .

It died 'cause there was no story.

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New York Times? I believe in all that they write. I am a liberal Kool aid drinking robot.
I must watch counterpunch.org .
It died 'cause there was no story.
This is just some of the links confirming that American gave equipment and protection to Saddam.

1. Washingtonpost.com . December 30, 2002
2. Jonathan Broder. Nuclear times, Winter 1990-91
3. Kurt Nimno. AlterNet. September 23, 2002
4. Newyorktimes.com . August 29, 2002
5. ABC Nightline. June9, 1992
6. Counter Punch, October 10, 2002
7. Riegle Report: Dual Use Exports. Senate Committee on Banking. May 25, 1994
8. Timeline: A walk Through Iraq's History. U.S. Department of State
9. Doing Business: The Arming of Iraq. Daniel Robichear
10. Glen Rangwala. Labor Left Briefing, 16 September, 2002
11. Financial Times of London. July 3, 1991
12. Elson E. Boles. Counter Punch. October 10, 2002
13. Iran-Iraq War, 1980-1988. Iranchamber.com
14. Columbia Journalism Review. March/April 1993. Iraqgate
15. Times Online. December 31, 2002. How U.S. Helped Iraq Build Deadly Arsenal
16. Bush's Secret Mission. The New Yorker Magazine. November 2, 1992
17. Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia: Iran-Contra Affair
18. Congressional Record. July 27, 1992. Representative Henry B. Gonzalez
19. Bob Woodward. CIA Aiding Iraq in Persian Gulf War. Washington Post. 15 December, 1986
20. Case Study: The Anfal Campaign. www.gendercide.com

If you like here is an Iranian link:
Arming Iraq: A Chronology of U.S. Involvement
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/a...
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Friday Jul 25
 
Why should Iran go to war with the US-it is destroying itself from within.
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Friday Jul 25
 
Payandeh, greetings from Israel.
We don't share a disputed border.
We are not blocking each other access to international navigation.
We are not trying to conquer each others land.
We don't have any interest to convert your people to judaism.
We don't ........
And still, everything indicates that very soon you and us, we are going to engage in a cruel war.
Why?
What for?
What do you have to gain from a confrontation with Israel?
Is it worht to sacrifize the lives of your youngsters for a non specified and justified reason?
Have you ever asked yourself this questions?
Respectufully
Jeremiah K.
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pjam2825 wrote:
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This is just some of the links confirming that American gave equipment and protection to Saddam.
1. Washingtonpost.com . December 30, 2002
2. Jonathan Broder. Nuclear times, Winter 1990-91
3. Kurt Nimno. AlterNet. September 23, 2002
4. Newyorktimes.com . August 29, 2002
5. ABC Nightline. June9, 1992
6. Counter Punch, October 10, 2002
7. Riegle Report: Dual Use Exports. Senate Committee on Banking. May 25, 1994
8. Timeline: A walk Through Iraq's History. U.S. Department of State
9. Doing Business: The Arming of Iraq. Daniel Robichear
10. Glen Rangwala. Labor Left Briefing, 16 September, 2002
11. Financial Times of London. July 3, 1991
12. Elson E. Boles. Counter Punch. October 10, 2002
13. Iran-Iraq War, 1980-1988. Iranchamber.com
14. Columbia Journalism Review. March/April 1993. Iraqgate
15. Times Online. December 31, 2002. How U.S. Helped Iraq Build Deadly Arsenal
16. Bush's Secret Mission. The New Yorker Magazine. November 2, 1992
17. Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia: Iran-Contra Affair
18. Congressional Record. July 27, 1992. Representative Henry B. Gonzalez
19. Bob Woodward. CIA Aiding Iraq in Persian Gulf War. Washington Post. 15 December, 1986
20. Case Study: The Anfal Campaign. www.gendercide.com
If you like here is an Iranian link:
Arming Iraq: A Chronology of U.S. Involvement
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/a...
There's no doubt Iraq was supplied by the US and other western nations with weaponry and chemicals as fundamentalist Iran proclaimed it's self as a enemy of the west boasting about it.
The Soviet Union also greatly supplied Iraq.
Ayatollah Khomeini refused Iraq's numerous requests to end the 1980-88 Iran Iraq war causing more needless losses and damage.

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Friday Jul 25
 
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There's no doubt Iraq was supplied by the US and other western nations with weaponry and chemicals as fundamentalist Iran proclaimed it's self as a enemy of the west boasting about it.
The Soviet Union also greatly supplied Iraq.
Ayatollah Khomeini refused Iraq's numerous requests to end the 1980-88 Iran Iraq war causing more needless losses and damage.
Saddam attacked Iran, Why would the Iranians except Saddams surrender on HIS terms. Iran could of and should of taken Bagdad and removed Saddam but the Iranians put there faith in a clearly failed UN, hoping the UN would effect quick change in Bagdad.

Iran will not make the same mistake if the Zionists and their American minders attack and you will be defeated completely

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Friday Jul 25
 
If the Americans had acted in 1979 and restored the Shah to his rightful place then Iran would be a friend to America today.
Now we must support and aid the MEK-Iranian Freedom Fighters.
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Friday Jul 25
 
"Iran will not make the same mistake if the Zionists and their American minders attack and you will be defeated completely"

The main reason Iran can not engage in a long lasting war with the USA/Israel .... is that the iranian people don't see why the muhllas regime is antagonizing both countries.

Iran can send a contractor (Syria, Hamas, Hizballah) to terrorize Israel or the USA.

Direct and open fighting is out of the question. The Iranian Army is not trained to oppose the might and the will of a well trained and equipped army.

After two or three blows on the field, the Iranian army will collapse "domino" style.
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