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Jan 31, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger

Harper and the U.S. are wrong on the Iran threat

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It's unlikely that Stephen Harper, John Baird, Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich have ever heard of Tamir Pardo, Meir Dagan, Amos Yadlin, Gabi Ashkenazi or Yuval Diskin.

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Very Good and Educational!
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Very Good and Educational!
Only in those Hamas Sock Puppet wet dreams of yours clown!!
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<quoted text>Only in those Hamas Sock Puppet wet dreams of yours clown!!
FU you and your Hamas cousins that you love to steal their land so much!
I only care about the Land of Aryan and IRANIAN!
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FU you and your Hamas cousins that you love to steal their land so much!
I only care about the Land of Aryan and IRANIAN!
Hey Alidoggy1 Toronto NUTCASE, why the hell don't you go back to looking at your Hamas Jewish hate material they sent you and remain a susceptible victim to the psy ops campaign waged by the you and the Hamas Sock Puppets states media, you Anti-Zionist, Anti-Jewish Anti-American filthy maggot scumbag. You are an armchair pontificator that has the intelligence of the shit at the bottom of a cesspit..Stop the filthy disgusting lies and propaganda! Keep flying that Hezbollah flag over that trailer trash you like to call home in Toronto. Then, mind your own Hamas business and keep your big gum flappin' mouth shut if you can't post something besides your radical nut case anti-Semite hate propaganda and LIES!
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FU you and your Hamas cousins that you love to steal their land so much!
I only care about the Land of Aryan and IRANIAN!
IDIOT!! How can any country LET ALONE iSRAEL steal land when the country PALESTINE DOES NOT EXIST AND NEVER HAS DUMBAZZ! Truth does not change. Truth is truth. If something was true 50 years ago, 40 years ago, 30 years ago, it is still true today.
And the truth is that only 30 years ago, there was very little confusion on this issue of Palestine.
You might remember the late Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir making the bold political statement: "There is no such thing as a Palestinian people."
The statement has been a source of ridicule and derision by Arab propagandists ever since. They love to talk about Golda Meir's "racism." They love to suggest she was in historical denial. They love to say her statement is patently false – an intentional lie, a strategic deception.
What they don't like to talk about, however, are the very similar statements made by Yasser Arafat and his inner circle of political leadership years after Meir had told the truth – that there is no distinct Palestinian cultural or national identity.
So, despite the fact that conventional wisdom has now proclaimed that there is such a thing as the Palestinian people, I'm going to raise those uncomfortable quotations made by Arafat and his henchmen when their public-relations guard was down.
Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.
That's pretty clear, isn't it? It's even more specific than Golda Meir's statement. It reaffirms what I have written on this subject. And it is hardly the only such statement of its kind. Arafat himself made a very definitive and unequivocal statement along these lines as late as 1993. It demonstrates conclusively that the Palestinian nationhood argument is the real strategic deception – one geared to set up the destruction of Israel.
In fact, on the same day Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn in 1993, he explained his actions on Jordan TV. Here's what he said: "Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel."
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FU you and your Hamas cousins that you love to steal their land so much!
I only care about the Land of Aryan and IRANIAN!
No matter how many people convince themselves that the aspirations for Palestinian statehood are genuine and the key to peace in the Middle East, they are still deceiving themselves.
I've said it before and I will say it again, in the history of the world, Palestine has never existed as a nation. The region known as Palestine was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their ancestral homeland. It was never ruled by Arabs as a separate nation.
Why now has it become such a critical priority?
The answer is because of a massive deception campaign and relentless terrorism over 40 years.
Golda Meir was right. Her statement is validated by the truth of history and by the candid, but not widely circulated, pronouncements of Arafat and his lieutenants.
Israel and the West must not surrender to terrorism by granting the killers just what they want – a public relations triumph and a strategic victory. It's not too late to say no to terrorism. It's not too late to say no to another Arab terror state. It's not too late to tell the truth about Palestine.
What an Idiot! If you ever stated something intelligible, it would be a miracle. An outright MIRACLE!
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 Joel 3:1-4 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land. And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink. Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompense? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompense upon your own head;

Hey Aryekeer! Try to find the name of Palestine up there?lol
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 Joel 3:1-4 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land. And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink. Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompense? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompense upon your own head;
Hey Aryekeer! Try to find the name of Palestine up there?lol
Spare me the clown talk moron!! You won't find the country Palestine anywhere and especially here on earth!

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Very interesting article.

Ayatollah banned the Shah's nuke program as immoral.

Ayatollah Khamenei allowed nuke researched for energy and medical uses but issued a fatwa saying the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons was forbidden under Islam.

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I didn't know Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was JEWISH!!!

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/news/canadia...
Ayreshire

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Persian wrote:
 Joel 3:1-4 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land. And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink. Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompense? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompense upon your own head;
Hey Aryekeer! Try to find the name of Palestine up there?lol
Deut 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
(KJV)
US foreign policy is like a shifting wind and constantly changing, one day supporting the Muslims and the next the Israelis. For example, during the Holocaust our government refused to believe there was a mass slaughter of Jews and then refused to allow them to emigrate and escape the death camps.
I support Israel's right to exist based upon my faith and the blessing found in Gen. 12:3, And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. The term Palestine is a misnomer since it had been known as the Kingdom of Israel and/or Judea until the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. It was then renamed Palestine by them, the word Palestine is a derivative of the word Philistine who occupied the southern coast of Canaan. The Philistines constituted a threat to southern Israel and oppressed the Israelites notably during the days of judges Samson and Samuel.
The Jewish people have suffered constant persecution for thousands of years by both Christians and Muslims the most infamous in recent history, the Holocaust. What few people know today is that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin Al-Husseini, was a complicit participant with Adolph Hitler is the extermination of the Jews.
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Arabs and Palestinian Christians living in Israel at the time of the first emigration of Jews to their homeland were offered the opportunity to stay and live in peace with the Jews. Unfortunately, this was discouraged by neighboring Arab countries and the conflict continues to this day. The beginning of the modern Jewish return to Eretz Yisrael - the Land of Israel -, which laid the foundations for the establishment of the State of Israel, were due to a combination of three causes:

* the age-old devotion of the Jews to their historic homeland,
* the wave of pogroms in Russia and
* the efforts of an active minority convinced that the Return to the homeland was the only lasting and fundamental solution to the Jewish problem.

The Abrahamic Covenant is unconditional and eternal. In the Genesis 17 passage, God changed Abram's name to Abraham and Sarai's name to Sarah. The sign of the covenant, circumcision, was established. God gave this sign as a reminder of his promise. God explicitly stated that the land he promised Abraham and his descendants was an everlasting possession. God also explicitly stated that the covenant went through Isaac (v. 21) not Ishmael.(Genesis 17:2-9 and Deuteronomy 1:7-8). While several of the Arab peoples descend from Abraham through Ishmael, they are not in the line of promise which is the line of Isaac and Jacob. Therefore, they have no Scriptural claim to the land promised to Abraham and his seed.
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The boundaries are given for the title deed (v. 18, cf. Exodus 23:31 "I will establish your borders from the Red Sea to the Sea of the Philistines, and from the desert to the River. I will hand over to you the people who live in the land and you will drive them out before you.)" At the present time the Arabs have deep bitterness and conflict over Israel's place in the Middle East and her present borders. Most Arabs refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist in the Middle East and many will not rest until the nation is destroyed. God, however, has declared that this will never happen. Indeed, God has promised that in a future day he will fulfill his covenant to Abraham and establish Israel's borders from Egypt to the Euphrates River. The new boundaries will be vastly more extensive than Israel's current borders. They will include the lands from Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, western Iraq, and northern Saudi Arabia. These countries would do well to be good neighbors to Israel in anticipation of the day when God will fulfill his covenants and Jesus of Nazareth, the son of David, will reign as King from Jerusalem.

Most importantly, we must remember that our Lord Jesus is/was first and foremost a Jew.
• Centuries ago, God told the Israelites:“If you will strictly obey my voice and will indeed keep my covenant, then you will certainly become my special property out of all other peoples, because the whole earth belongs to me. And you yourselves will become to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.”(Exodus 19:5, 6) All nations belonged to God, but the Israelites could become his special property, eventually serving as priests in behalf of all mankind.
But was this special relationship with God unconditional? No! God had said:“If you will strictly obey my voice ... then you will certainly become my special property.” So their continuing in a chosen relationship with God was conditional, dependent upon their continued faithfulness to him.
Despite having received special favor as God’s chosen people, the majority of the Israelites abandoned the true worship of Jehovah. What was Jehovah’s reaction?“I shall no more show mercy again to the house of Israel, because I shall positively take them away.... You men are not my people and I myself shall prove to be not yours.”(Hosea 1:6, 9)
Would Jehovah continue to view the Jews as his chosen people? Recognizing that many had once again apostatized from the unadulterated worship of Jehovah, Jesus said:“The kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits.”(Matthew 21:43) Failing to heed that warning, the majority continued in their apostate course and rejected Jesus as Jehovah’s anointed one. Hence, it was not long afterward that God allowed the rebuilt temple to be destroyed, in 70 C.E.(Matthew 23:37, 38)
As Paul, a Jewish apostle of Christ, explained:“God did not reject his people, whom he first recognized.... At the present season also a remnant has turned up according to a choosing due to undeserved kindness.”(Romans 11:2, 5)
This faithful Jewish remnant was soon joined by non-Jews who also desired to serve God. Even though their ancestors had not been in a special relationship with him, Jehovah was now willing to accept these faithful non-Jews as his people. Noting this, Paul wrote:“If, now, God ... called [us] not only from among Jews but also from among [non-Jewish] nations, what of it? It is as he says also in Hosea:‘Those not my people I will call “my people.”’”—Romans 9:22-25.
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Jews and Muslims are both barbaric.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald...

Israel isn't worth a penny or drop of blood to me. If the crazy Israelis want to have their war to the death with the crazy Muslims, let them.
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Hey Arykeer!
It all changed right after your people start worshipping the golden calf!!!!!???
After all that Mighty God did for your nation, you went back to worshipping GOLD! lol
But coming back to earth and this present time you and all of your Palestinian cousins are living in the same land; so you better work out your problems! We don't want to have WW3 because of you chosen potato heads! lol
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Ayreshire wrote:
Arabs and Palestinian Christians living in Israel at the time of the first emigration of Jews to their homeland were offered the opportunity to stay and live in peace with the Jews. Unfortunately, this was discouraged by neighboring Arab countries and the conflict continues to this day. The beginning of the modern Jewish return to Eretz Yisrael - the Land of Israel -, which laid the foundations for the establishment of the State of Israel, were due to a combination of three causes:
* the age-old devotion of the Jews to their historic homeland,
* the wave of pogroms in Russia and
* the efforts of an active minority convinced that the Return to the homeland was the only lasting and fundamental solution to the Jewish problem.
The Abrahamic Covenant is unconditional and eternal. In the Genesis 17 passage, God changed Abram's name to Abraham and Sarai's name to Sarah. The sign of the covenant, circumcision, was established. God gave this sign as a reminder of his promise. God explicitly stated that the land he promised Abraham and his descendants was an everlasting possession. God also explicitly stated that the covenant went through Isaac (v. 21) not Ishmael.(Genesis 17:2-9 and Deuteronomy 1:7-8). While several of the Arab peoples descend from Abraham through Ishmael, they are not in the line of promise which is the line of Isaac and Jacob. Therefore, they have no Scriptural claim to the land promised to Abraham and his seed.
It seems that you are completely out of your minds in this usa.
to end this crazy madness and bs it should be said:
Iranians are Persians and Meds in majority, they live in their land from more than a few tousends years and give to them normal life and buzz off.Naturally Iranian president should stop to make riots with these posteuropean criminal idiots, who rule in israel and usa.
real Jews are just Palestinians, who have converted to Islam a few hundred years ago after conquering these their Palestinian soil by Arabs.
and these moronic clowns, who say that they are Jews and live in this Israel and globally are no real Jews, they are pathetic clowns ( most of all greeks or even worse english or another europeans and from usa, who think that they are a chosen nation, because they believe in this old religion so called dead religion - judaism ). certainly that they have very good situation there. They do nothing and they get a few hundred billions from usa year in year to keep their country. What do they want from Iran, it is not clear? If it gets about a religious madness, it should not be a problem, they are no real Jews and this prophecy does not touch them. They are not chosen nation, they are stupid lazy, criminal morons, who live on the cost of uss-tax payres.
Read antrophology, it will be better to know how it is.
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Bye Bye Iran!!!
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Ayreshire wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Alidoggy1 Toronto NUTCASE, why the hell don't you go back to looking at your Hamas Jewish hate material they sent you and remain a susceptible victim to the psy ops campaign waged by the you and the Hamas Sock Puppets states media, you Anti-Zionist, Anti-Jewish Anti-American filthy maggot scumbag. You are an armchair pontificator that has the intelligence of the shit at the bottom of a cesspit..Stop the filthy disgusting lies and propaganda! Keep flying that Hezbollah flag over that trailer trash you like to call home in Toronto. Then, mind your own Hamas business and keep your big gum flappin' mouth shut if you can't post something besides your radical nut case anti-Semite hate propaganda and LIES!
Perhaps something intelligent, like your post?(sarcasm)
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Don't worry so much about Aryshere! S/HE just loves His/Her people and get really Emotional!
That's fine and undrestandable!
The Bottom line is we have to stop madness in all sites and prevent WW3!
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I seem to remember having to save the world from the nuclear treat in Iraq too...and why is it alright for Pakistan to have nukes?
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It's not about IRAN having nuclear bombs!
It's mostly about USA trying to control Middle East with it's vast amount of oil, natural gas and minerals in order to control emerging power houses such as China, India and even Russia!
In addition USA tries to force IRAN to accept IsNotReal as a state!

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