Israel's end is near, Ahmadinejad says

To: Lipush

You misunderstood the essence of my message. I asked you, that if God has brought Jews from all corners of the world to one common place, what is the purpose?

If the purpose of God is to re-establish the Jewish nation, so that they can put into practice His Laws and Commandments and lead a pious life…then it is very commendable.

But when we see that the present Jewish state of Israel is like any other Modern Atheist Materialistic country, so we can see that Jews have not gathered here for any religious purpose or for establishing a society built on Laws and Commandments of God…. Then we can deduce that this gathering is not for a good purpose but has some serious repercussion.

I gave my opinion that this state of Israel is a test and trial for Muslims for ignoring to live our lives in accordance with Islamic laws and commandments.

There is no fight between Islam and Judaism as such, there is no equality at all!! Israel and Jews are only a “minor” irritants to Islam and Muslims at large.

MUQ wrote:

To: Lipush
You misunderstood the essence of my message. I asked you, that if God has brought Jews from all corners of the world to one common place, what is the purpose?
If the purpose of God is to re-establish the Jewish nation, so that they can put into practice His Laws and Commandments and lead a pious life…then it is very commendable.
But when we see that the present Jewish state of Israel is like any other Modern Atheist Materialistic country, so we can see that Jews have not gathered here for any religious purpose or for establishing a society built on Laws and Commandments of God…. Then we can deduce that this gathering is not for a good purpose but has some serious repercussion.
I gave my opinion that this state of Israel is a test and trial for Muslims for ignoring to live our lives in accordance with Islamic laws and commandments.
There is no fight between Islam and Judaism as such, there is no equality at all!! Israel and Jews are only a “minor” irritants to Islam and Muslims at large.

You post this kind of ridiculous "logic" from Saudi Arabia -a place that stones rape victims,
beats elderly widdowed women if they dare speak to a man, forbids women to drive and
allows most of the country to live in poverty while a handful of "holy" Sheiks live in
splendor? Your blindness and arrogance is laughable. Osama Bin Laden doesn't think
much of your lofty society and how you follow commandments, does he? Interesting isn't
it, how Westernized Saudi Arabia is. Now, who's fault is that?

And those "irritants" made the desert bloom, brought back a "dead" religion,
survived countless threats and have been contributing to mankind for over
5,000 years. You will never defeat them.

MUQ wrote:

To: Ehav
While numerical strength of any philosophy or religion is no certain proof of its being true, so we cannot just say, that since Islam is growing in the world, it must be true.
But when we see that people enter into the faith of Islam after lots of study and after finding it to be true path, it changes our perspective.
Islam gives Jesus the place which he deserves. Islam does not negate the mission of Jesus nor raise him above the pedestal where he stood.
Jesus was a prophet and like any other prophet. He was Messiah and there have been very Messiah in Jewish History. Messiah is not such a strange Title, that only Jesus deserves this.
I also hope that some day you will realise this and understand the true message and nature of Jesus.

Muq,
I appreciate your perpsectives.
I do realise the true message of Jesus. If not, I would of converted, or looked for another religion.
I have witnessed people healed, with severe physicall damage, by using the name of Jesus. This validates Jesus position as more than a Messiah.
I could list many, many, other super natural occurances.
To my knowlegde only Jesus made these claims.
Making Jesus Lord/God. For only God has the power to heal and change things, humans cannot.

my kind of town wrote:

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You post this kind of ridiculous "logic" from Saudi Arabia -a place that stones rape victims,
beats elderly widdowed women if they dare speak to a man, forbids women to drive and
allows most of the country to live in poverty while a handful of "holy" Sheiks live in
splendor? Your blindness and arrogance is laughable. Osama Bin Laden doesn't think
much of your lofty society and how you follow commandments, does he? Interesting isn't
it, how Westernized Saudi Arabia is. Now, who's fault is that?
And those "irritants" made the desert bloom, brought back a "dead" religion,
survived countless threats and have been contributing to mankind for over
5,000 years. You will never defeat them.

And in a short 300 years, American people have kidnapped, raped, tortured children. Some by their own parents.
Commited genocide on the aboriginal peoples.
Less some 5 other occurances, has sent it's children to school, only to have them slaughtered.
Has murdered some 50 million infant fetus. Causing the demise of the European caucasion.
Shall I continue.
Again, 300 years, Vs. 5000 years.
Do the math....

MUQ wrote:

To: Lipush
You misunderstood the essence of my message. I asked you, that if God has brought Jews from all corners of the world to one common place, what is the purpose?
If the purpose of God is to re-establish the Jewish nation, so that they can put into practice His Laws and Commandments and lead a pious life…then it is very commendable.
But when we see that the present Jewish state of Israel is like any other Modern Atheist Materialistic country, so we can see that Jews have not gathered here for any religious purpose or for establishing a society built on Laws and Commandments of God…. Then we can deduce that this gathering is not for a good purpose but has some serious repercussion.
I gave my opinion that this state of Israel is a test and trial for Muslims for ignoring to live our lives in accordance with Islamic laws and commandments.
There is no fight between Islam and Judaism as such, there is no equality at all!! Israel and Jews are only a “minor” irritants to Islam and Muslims at large.

What appears to the human eye, and logic, is far from the thoughts of God.


For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

—Isaiah 55:8-9

Isaiah 11 : 1 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall set His hand a second time to recover the remnant of His people ... 2) And He shall set up a ensign (sign) for the nations, and shall assemble the outcast of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Isaiah 27 : 8 He shall cause them that come of Jacob to take root: Israel shall blossom... 12)...Ye shall be gathered one by one, O ye children of Israel....

Jer. 29 : 11 For I know the thoughts that I think towards you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. 13) Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me with all your heart. 14) And I will be found of you, saith the LORD; and I will turn away your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places whither I have driven you, saith the LORD; and I will bring you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried away captive.(Israel)

Ezekiel 37 : 12 ... Thus saith the LORD God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13) and ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves...14) And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land:...Ye shall know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it....

Matt. 24 : 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.(Mark 13:27)

Acts 1: 6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him,(Jesus) saying, Lord will thou at this time RESTORE AGAIN the KINGDOM TO ISRAEL? 7) And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the TIMES OR THE SEASONS, which the Father has put in his own hands."

Acts 3 : 19 Repent (turn back) ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the LORD; 20) and he shall send Yeshua your Messiah, which was before preached unto you: 21) Whom the heavens must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of His Holy prophets since the world began.

MUQ wrote:

To: GJ the Palestinians
Thank you for agreeing with me. Yes the Super Powers are only temporary titles….there have been many super powers in the past and there will be many.
Jews have placed themselves into a very dangerous position…. They have made themselves a permanent enemy to the people who are surrounding them. They are asking for a fitting chastisement.

Jehovah God is soon to be known by the world and, especially, by the enemies of Israel. The configuration of the nations in the Middle East, including Russia, will be forever changed. Russia, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Ethiopia, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, plus all their allies will no longer exist as government entities. There is the possibility that as many as twenty-five or thirty nations will be utterly destroyed. The full extent of this cataclysmic war has never been fully declared or understood. The Bible makes it clear that the nations which have determined to destroy Israel will be decimated. The Holy Spirit said, "And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalam" (Zechariah 12:9).

Equally long-lived are man's social and religious structures: the military and political establishments, educational systems, half a dozen major religions - and, we could add, the criminal fraternity. But however much these social works of man may be praised (or criticized), they have all contributed to the awesome scenario we looked at earlier. These human institutions reflect mankind's debased nature. They are based on human ideas, however cleverly concocted. They mirror man's greed, his lust for naked power.

Why do the nations rage at one another? Why are there deep political divides in all nations? Why are billions educationally deprived? Why doesn't everyone have clean water to drink? Why are all people so deeply divided religiously and why hasn't "religion" solved our human problems? Why ...?

Here's why! All these great works of mankind have been built without a vital foundation layer. All - even religion - are built on the shifting sands of human philosophy, human reasoning. But, you say, isn't that all we have? No! Most assuredly not!

For all man's efforts omit one essential ingredient - divine revelation. They leave the Creator God out of the picture!

the earliest human family displayed the nature that plagues us to this day. Human nature doesn't change!... Genesis 3:1-7, 4:4-10, Jeremiah 17:9

- less than seventeen centuries after man's first encounter with his Creator this nature cried out for destruction ... Genesis 6:5-7

- despite God's correction by means of a universal flood human lust for power in only two generations drove men to build Godless empires. It has since been the pattern for all human civilization ... Genesis 10:6-12

this remnant of godly people will have a key role in the next world empire - God's


- the succeeding empire (kingdom) will be by divine appointment. God's Kingdom will destroy every vestige of human mismanagement of the planet ... v.44, 45

Jesus made quite clear that the vast majority of mankind will choose the easy way in life. His real followers - that tiny remnant - will be treading a narrow and difficult path ... Matthew 7:13-14

Change is coming.

http://www.jstreet.org/

And again these are not Palestinians. These are Jewish Americans wanting change in israel.

Go and support!

www.gp.org

Watch DemocracyNow folks. Stop watching corporate media 24/7. Its rotts the brain.

Monk wrote:

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Hi Lipush- This guy is part of the reason we must remain vigilant as allies. They are mindless and full of hatred. The don't create and build, they tear down and destroy. They are the forces of darkness. They want to return the world to the 7th century; to deny freedom and liberty to our people.
Pray for our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan- they are paying a terrible price to
protect the world from these demons. Encourage your friends to pray for our
troops. We need to think of each other and pray for each other often. These
are difficult times, but we can defeat them once and for all. Monk

We should pray for any soldier who fight in the name of democtacy and the free world, also including the brave American soldiers in the Middle East, fighting for their country and families.
We, in Israel, also pray that Gilad Shalit will come back home soon, so that his mother could finally hold him, and breath normally again; May God bless him and keep him safe.

MUQ wrote:

To: Lipush
You misunderstood the essence of my message. I asked you, that if God has brought Jews from all corners of the world to one common place, what is the purpose?
If the purpose of God is to re-establish the Jewish nation, so that they can put into practice His Laws and Commandments and lead a pious life…then it is very commendable.
But when we see that the present Jewish state of Israel is like any other Modern Atheist Materialistic country, so we can see that Jews have not gathered here for any religious purpose or for establishing a society built on Laws and Commandments of God…. Then we can deduce that this gathering is not for a good purpose but has some serious repercussion.
I gave my opinion that this state of Israel is a test and trial for Muslims for ignoring to live our lives in accordance with Islamic laws and commandments.
There is no fight between Islam and Judaism as such, there is no equality at all!! Israel and Jews are only a “minor” irritants to Islam and Muslims at large.

Did you read the Old tesement?
Exodus tells us about the death of Kind of Egypt, and the rise of the New one. And the Israelites cried under slavery and God took notice of them.
God therefor called to Moses and told him " I have heard their cry and have come down to deliver them from the Egyptians to bring them up out of that land to a good and broad land."
He told Moses that he heard the cries and known the suffering. that is why he chose to bring the Jews to one place where they will be gathered and protected from the "Egyptians" of modern life-
The Nazis, The Antisemites,The Arabs and the ones who seek to harm the Jewish sould. THAT was the purpose.
Although Israel is not a Religious state like Iran (best example i had in mind), something like more then 20% are considering themselves religious, and many others may not be religious totally, but follow the Jewish tradition.
We clearly are not ATHEISTS. but not religion coltrolls our lives either, and the establishment of Israel is not only because of our religious "RIGHT OF RETURNING" but the historical rights, too.
You say yourselves that we are "minor" that "interrupts" you.
We shouldn't interrupt you at all, our rights to this land has nothing to do with you, but if that is the case like you just said, how come suddenly the inite middle east is so busy in the "Palestinian problem"?

Ehav wrote:

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And in a short 300 years, American people have kidnapped, raped, tortured children. Some by their own parents.
Commited genocide on the aboriginal peoples.
Less some 5 other occurances, has sent it's children to school, only to have them slaughtered.
Has murdered some 50 million infant fetus. Causing the demise of the European caucasion.
Shall I continue.
Again, 300 years, Vs. 5000 years.
Do the math....

Your math, language and logic skills are, unfortunately, all aligned.
My point, if you wish to stick to it, is the irony of someone in Saudi society
feeling superiority to ANYONE, especially a 60 year old nation that has surpassed its
neighbors. The other point, again, if you care to follow, is that dismissing ANYONE
who is not a Muslim, is also ridiculous, especially if it is a group far older and more
productive. Over 5,000 years is not something you can blog out.

Lipush wrote:

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Did you read the Old tesement?
Exodus tells us about the death of Kind of Egypt, and the rise of the New one. And the Israelites cried under slavery and God took notice of them.
God therefor called to Moses and told him " I have heard their cry and have come down to deliver them from the Egyptians to bring them up out of that land to a good and broad land."
He told Moses that he heard the cries and known the suffering. that is why he chose to bring the Jews to one place where they will be gathered and protected from the "Egyptians" of modern life-
The Nazis, The Antisemites,The Arabs and the ones who seek to harm the Jewish sould. THAT was the purpose.
Although Israel is not a Religious state like Iran (best example i had in mind), something like more then 20% are considering themselves religious, and many others may not be religious totally, but follow the Jewish tradition.
We clearly are not ATHEISTS. but not religion coltrolls our lives either, and the establishment of Israel is not only because of our religious "RIGHT OF RETURNING" but the historical rights, too.
You say yourselves that we are "minor" that "interrupts" you.
We shouldn't interrupt you at all, our rights to this land has nothing to do with you, but if that is the case like you just said, how come suddenly the inite middle east is so busy in the "Palestinian problem"?

Because Lipush, you embarrass them. Your success exposes their unjust, "blessed" societies.

Vote Green Party wrote:

Watch DemocracyNow folks. Stop watching corporate media 24/7. Its rotts the brain.

Problem is, they won't. after all who will show Americans how to wipe their azz?
Unfortunately, the Corporate Cartels own the Governments of America.
Worse, it's all legal.
Add to that any chance of a insurgency, is nil. And if it occurred, it will be stopped immediately by severe military force.
So, what we have we are stuck with.

Lipush wrote:

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Did you read the Old testament?
Exodus tells us about the death of Kind of Egypt, and the rise of the New one. And the Israelites cried under slavery and God took notice of them.
God therefor called to Moses and told him " I have heard their cry and have come down to deliver them from the Egyptians to bring them up out of that land to a good and broad land."
He told Moses that he heard the cries and known the suffering. that is why he chose to bring the Jews to one place where they will be gathered and protected from the "Egyptians" of modern life-
The Nazis, The Antisemites,The Arabs and the ones who seek to harm the Jewish should. THAT was the purpose.
Although Israel is not a Religious state like Iran (best example i had in mind), something like more then 20% are considering themselves religious, and many others may not be religious totally, but follow the Jewish tradition.
We clearly are not ATHEISTS. but not religion controls our lives either, and the establishment of Israel is not only because of our religious "RIGHT OF RETURNING" but the historical rights, too.
You say yourselves that we are "minor" that "interrupts" you.
We shouldn't interrupt you at all, our rights to this land has nothing to do with you, but if that is the case like you just said, how come suddenly the inite middle east is so busy in the "Palestinian problem"?

For the most part, your correct.
I do believe the human race is living in it's final day's as we now know it.
Shortly, we as humans will have a life changing choice to make.
That will be when the entire human race will be asked to accept a personal identifier.
Could be a chip implant, a bio-metric card, or something along those lines.
Without it, that person will be not be able to earn a legal living.
Currently, the Social Security number is the identifier.( does Israel have such a system?).
I am considering visiting Israel in the future. Possibly a permanent move. But I do not have the knowledge regarding visas, and permanent residency.
Back to the subject...Israel is protected by Yahweh. And will be until a certain point in time.
Then a massive army, will come against Israel. It is during the final stage of that battle, GOD-YHSHWH makes HIS presence known to the entire earth. And instantly crushes the armies that came against Israel.

Ehav wrote:

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For the most part, your correct.
I do believe the human race is living in it's final day's as we now know it.
Shortly, we as humans will have a life changing choice to make.
That will be when the entire human race will be asked to accept a personal identifier.
Could be a chip implant, a bio-metric card, or something along those lines.
Without it, that person will be not be able to earn a legal living.
Currently, the Social Security number is the identifier.( does Israel have such a system?).

Which cult do you belong to?

Monk wrote:

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Hi Lipush- This guy is part of the reason we must remain vigilant as allies. They are mindless and full of hatred. The don't create and build, they tear down and destroy. They are the forces of darkness. They want to return the world to the 7th century; to deny freedom and liberty to our people.
Pray for our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan- they are paying a terrible price to
protect the world from these demons. Encourage your friends to pray for our
troops. We need to think of each other and pray for each other often. These
are difficult times, but we can defeat them once and for all. Monk

You can easily spot the experts on "That Evil Islamic World" by the folks who have never been there and have been effectively and professionally misinformed by Faux News and Wolf Blitzer (chief "News" anchor AND actual AIPAC employee and spokesman.

I wanted to find out the other side to EVERY story, so I went there (Through out the Islamic world)

AND.......Guess What.....

America's Ziono- Media exists to train Americans to hate Muslims and fight Israel's wars

Re: "......They are mindless and full of hatred"

Here's the Mindless Hate REAL Americans pay for with blood and money

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1125288.h...
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1125294.h...

AND Here are the "Dual" Citizens that make policy for Americans to fight for........

http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm

Gray wrote:

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You can easily spot the experts on "That Evil Islamic World" by the folks who have never been there and have been effectively and professionally misinformed by Faux News and Wolf Blitzer (chief "News" anchor AND actual AIPAC employee and spokesman.
I wanted to find out the other side to EVERY story, so I went there (Through out the Islamic world)
AND.......Guess What.....
America's Ziono- Media exists to train Americans to hate Muslims and fight Israel's wars
Re: "......They are mindless and full of hatred"
Here's the Mindless Hate REAL Americans pay for with blood and money
AND Here are the "Dual" Citizens that make policy for Americans to fight for........

Your Ziono-Media comment exposes your real agenda. American Muslims
are patriotic Americans, not hated. You create hate by preaching hate against Israel. Pathetic.

To: Fredrick Nobel

It is clear that your knowledge about Islam is very poor and is not even first hand. You have picked these epithet from some Anti Islamic sites and use them as fruits of your own research.

If Muslims worship satan, then how come they seek protection from God against the accursed satan, every time they read Quran!! Will satan teach his followers to do that?

If Jesus knew that he will be crucified…then why did he begged God to “remove this cup from me”(as recorded in the Gospel according to Luke). Was that scene a mere drama?

On the day of Resurrection, all the prophets will be in the ranks of those who are nearest to God… no prophet wills serve any one…they all will enjoy the bounties and grace of God Almighty. It does not benefit you to belittle all prophets of God….that too to just raise the level of you prophet.

Jesus will indeed come back on this Earth before the End of Times and he will indeed rule on earth as a righteous prophet. That is our belief too.

To: Ehav

You have posted a very long reply and it covers so many points, that it is difficult to answer all of them.

Why don’t you raise one point at a time. I would answer a few which I think are relevant:

A. Miracles as proof for Genuineness of Christianity:

In fact Miracles are no proof at all for genuineness of any religion. You should talk logic and prove your point from scriptures and words of Jesus.

I am from India and in India there is no shortage of Miracles and people who perform them. So we have become a sort of immune to this form of logic. There are Hindu Yogis who perform all sorts of miracles, so do you think that their message is right?

B. Jews being gathered from all corners of the world:

I appreciate all those quotations that you have provided. I want to ask you one question:

Why would God gather Jews from all parts of the world? Will it be for good cause or for bad cause?

A good cause in the eyes of God is a society that follows His Laws and Commandments. Have you seen any signs in the Present state of Israel that shows that this country is following God’s Laws and Commandments?

The modern state of Israel is run by Atheist, Materialists people who have Jewish sounding names. They do not follow Jewish religion and have no regard for God’s Laws and Commandments.

Do you mean to say that God wants that type of Jewish nation and that is why, he should gather Jews from all corners of the world?

If this is not the case, then in my view, some great calamity is to befall all these Jews. They could become extinct after that calamity…as no Jews would be left in any other part of the world.

Think about this and respond.

To: My kind of Town

From your comments , it is evident that you have never visited Saudi Arabia and all your knowledge about it is from the “Biased Western Media”.

I am an Indian working in Saudi Arabia…. And I am one of the millions of workers of every nation of the earth, that come and work here.

Contrary to what you have written, Saudi Arabia is one of the calmest and safest country in the world. Its crime rates are lowest in the world.

You with all of your civilization and with all of your freedoms, have the highest crime rates in the world.

Osama Bin Laden is not the role model for us. I did not even heard the name of Al Qaeda till after 9/11 events.

We do not hate every thing of Western origin. What we hate about west is their Atheism, and their Materialism, and their falling moral values. The things which are good in West (hard work, discipline, and respect for knowledge) and we try to follow them.

But if you think that you become Western by Drinking Alcohol, Eating Macdonald and drinking Pepsi, then these are false standards.

Jew’ only achievement is their survival…. But they are no match for us!!. They started 3000 years before us, but they number only 15-20 Millions, most of them from the same race.

Islam on the other hand is a major world religion, its followers number close to 1,5000 Millions and are from all nationalities , races, linguistic and ethnic back ground.

How could you compare Apple with oranges?