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Sep 2, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger

Clinton to urge ASEAN unity on South China Sea

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U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is calling for Southeast Asian states to present a united front to the Chinese in dealing with territorial disputes in the South China Sea.

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Bob Burns

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This is another confused fallacy of the Democrats by the saying of Hillary Clinton.

It further illustrates the foreign policy failure of Obama and Biden.

Obama does not realize the reality of this world by showing the predicament of chaos in his wrong way of false endeavor, regarding Asia Pacific for the US interests.

Romney and Ryan would have a crucial approach which demonstrates US value of freedom and the traditional liberty that people of the world are yawning for.

Obama shows a poor image and sends no US symbol nor message to the world by being fragile and weak.

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The chinese history: far as 2,000 years ago, Chinese ancestors first discovered and gave names to the South China Sea islands, some dynasties named it "Shitang" and "Changsha,", until in this century renamed ‘south china sea islands’. Before 960 Chinese living and farming on the islands, but did not draw in the maps of the country, after 960, they draw a map (but without a navy patrol). Until 971 the naval patrolled Paracel islands only. Chinese naval patrolled Paracel islands and Spratly islands after the year 1271. In 1292 to RadenVijaya (Indonesia) for the war, China sent 20 thousands soldiers to fought this war. The Paracel islands and The Spratly islands also had been recorded in the poetry, documents, fishermen’s songs and ect...
Ancient maps:
http://www.picturechina.com.cn/bbs/thread-155 ...
http://www.picturechina.com.cn/bbs/thread-155 ...
http://www.picturechina.com.cn/bbs/thread-155 ...
http://www.picturechina.com.cn/bbs/thread-155 ...
UK recognited the islands belong to China:
http://tupian.hudong.com/a4_20_22_01200000228...
Vietnam
http://baike.baidu.com/albums/16187/16187/0/0 ...$4d4970069527892503088136
The maps printed by other countries in the world that mark the islands on the South China Sea as part of Chinese territory include:

1. The Welt-Atlas published by the Federal Republic of Germany in 1954, 1961 and 1970 respectively;

2. World Atlas published by the Soviet Union in 1954 and 1967 respectively;

3. World Atlas published by Romania in 1957;

4. Oxford Australian Atlas and Philips Record Atlas published by Britain in 1957 and Encyclopaedia Britannica World Atlas published by Britain in 1958;

5. World Atlas drawn and printed by the mapping unit of the Headquarters of the General Staff of the People's Army of Viet Nam in 1960;

6. Haack Welt Atlas published by German Democratic in 1968;

7. Daily Telegraph World Atlas published by Britain in 1968;

8. Atlas International Larousse published by France in 1968 and 1969 respectively;

9. World Map Ordinary published by the Institut Geographique National (IGN) of France in 1968;

10. World Atlas published by the Surveying and Mapping Bureau of the Prime Minister's Office of Viet Nam in 1972; and

11. China Atlas published by Neibonsya of Japan in 1973.
These Enough for china defend their Sovereigty of the territories!
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Later in Chinese history more exposure to these islands, especially chinese fishermen and traders generally exposure to these islands. Also there a lots of witnesses can prove it!
History and the witnesses: In 1905 Lee Jun become Guangdong Admiral. Lee Jun in 1907 had been patrol the Paracel and Spratly islands, and he had written down his name and year on the stone and left it on the island.
In 1909 Lee Jun patrol South China Sea, and had a exercise which was to announced and established Chinese sovereignty over the islands in south china sea. French history certify : August 22, 1921, the French Cabinet of Prime Minister and Foreign Minister (Aristide Briand) on the Paracel and spratly Islands issue, admitted: "As the Chinese government since 1909 had been established the sovereignty of the islands, if we take any request is impossible...”. In 1933 French invasion of these islands, the chinese government had protested but no power to fight back!
Before 1974 South Vietnam admitted Paracel and Spratly islands belong to China, even history subject in the school told the students the islands belong to china. In 1958 the Prime minister of north Vn had admitted the islands belong to china too! The very popular history book of Vietnam “Phu Bien Tap Luc” had clearly admitted the Paracel islands and Spratly islands belong to China.
In 1989 and 1900, the United States and Spain signed a treaty of the Philippine territory, the treaty clearly defined territory of the Philippines, does not include the Spratly Islands. In 1951 Philippine-US military alliance treaty this was further confirmed! In 2009 Philippines newspaper admitted the islands belong to china, history of philippines admitted the islands belong to china too!
October 27, 1955, held the first session of the ICAO the Pacific Flying meeting in the Philippine capital of Manila. Attended the meeting in addition to Australia, Canada, Chile, Dominican Republic, Japan, Laos, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, United Kingdom, the United States, New Zealand, France, South Vietnam, China, Taiwan. The meeting requested china and taiwan authorities to improve meteorological observation on the Spratly Islands (four times a day).
The British Department of the Navy Bureau of Surveying and Mapping "published in 1912 sailing blog (China Sea Pilot), contains many the footsteps of the Chinese people in south sea islands. In 1971, the British High Commissioner in Singapore said ‘ the islands belong to china, and will return it to china after the war’.
In september 1933, France magazine ( LE MONDE COLONIAL ILLUSTRE ) had records: 1930 the French navigators found 3 chinese living one of the spratly islands. In april 1933 French naval invaded nine of the Spratly islands. And they found 16 chinese living in three islands, and one of the other island had no people but there was house, well, god tower ect.
International maps drawn all the islands in south china sea belong to china. From ancient times to the present, China's absolute territorial sovereignty over the islands. I don’t want to see the war happen because of the reserves and not respect history. Some countries to use politics to want to get the advantages and benefits, they do not care the world hate war!
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JBH wrote:
This is another confused fallacy of the Democrats by the saying of Hillary Clinton.
It further illustrates the foreign policy failure of Obama and Biden.
Obama does not realize the reality of this world by showing the predicament of chaos in his wrong way of false endeavor, regarding Asia Pacific for the US interests.
Romney and Ryan would have a crucial approach which demonstrates US value of freedom and the traditional liberty that people of the world are yawning for.
Obama shows a poor image and sends no US symbol nor message to the world by being fragile and weak.
China announced and established the sovereignty over the South China sea in 1909, French history can verify the true of it. The map can be the evidence :
http://tupian.hudong.com/a4_20_22_01200000228...
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US residents dislike war, but I dont understand why they let their politicians misleading others to against China? It can create war! China wont abandon their territories, and china wont discard their history. What Clinton doing is evil generating in her heart!
Mu Words

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Bob Burns wrote:
Wanna borrow some money from us to implement your plan against us?
;) she trying to finish Bill jobs to locate wear is Tonkin Gulf by smellink not Gooogle earth or maps!!! may bee almanacy!;-000h, Bob can U give here da torch or Mao asking ;-000
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The USA military is being spread thin, once again.

The Middle East, Eastern Europe, now Asian seas. Americans FUND protection for other countries and States but FORGET to

tend to OUR side of the world before it's too late.

don't forget OUR closest neighborhoods-Caribbean Sea, South America and Central America.

Things are already bubbling there and American borders are at risk.
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Clinton thinking:
USA coming China should abandon the territories! What Clinton doing is Fultile, noone abandon the territories and left it for you!
Why Clinton against USA history and the ancestors recognited?:
"The boundaries set by the Treaty of Paris (and by the Treaty of 1900 between the US and Spain, and the Treaty of 1930 between the US and the UK) served as the basis of the definition of Philippine territory in the 1935 Constitution of the Philippines". These treaty about the boudaries of Philippine were not included the dispute territories, this treaty later rejected by the Philippines? the answer is NO. Why Clinton still pushing? Why USA need war?
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Why USA want Asian kill each other? we are human been! Please stop your Politicians create war!
cderoose

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Bob Burns wrote:
Wanna borrow some money from us to implement your plan against us?
Vidio Keshefoundation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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C De Roose
cderoose

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Vidio Keshefoundation.

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C De Roose

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Sep 5, 2012
 
Asean need to become part of USA.
Bob Burns

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Sep 5, 2012
 
neobyzantine wrote:
Asean need to become part of USA.
Way things are going, more likely you will become a part of Greater China
Wow

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Sep 5, 2012
 
It can say USA want be a Robin Hood or Ned Kelly, other way to describe " Robbery leader".
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#48
Sep 5, 2012
 
If without rob from others, how they survive in the bad economy condition. USA can't do the police official anymore, the only way is robbery. In their mind have no knowledge about business or economy of the world. These few years they absolutely dont know how to run the world economy, now even China and Australia can't go any further! The USA let us down, the only hope of Russia, china and India unite and change the condition. USA should go down for a while!
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Sep 6, 2012
 
Gravediggers wrote:
The USA military is being spread thin, once again.
The Middle East, Eastern Europe, now Asian seas. Americans FUND protection for other countries and States but FORGET to
tend to OUR side of the world before it's too late.
don't forget OUR closest neighborhoods-Caribbean Sea, South America and Central America.
Things are already bubbling there and American borders are at risk.
US military will lost the base in Afganistan, and Syria. US run around for what? For the new base!
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#50
Sep 6, 2012
 
Philippin vietnam and japan think China no allied country, but along the world map are USA enemies. North korea, parkistan, iran syria, and more....
India stand with russia, and Russia wont listence to USA. In the condition of USA are bad, Russia wont joint USA to fight the terrorism.
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#51
Sep 6, 2012
 
USA find the new bases are futile, because USA go to any base will create war!

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