China vs India; who will win?

1.) China real nominal GDP is 3.5 Trillion, India's GDP is only 1.1 Trillion

2.) China Birth Rate is below replacement level at 1.77, while India Birth Rate is well over replacement level at 2.7

3.) China won 110 medals at the Olympics, while India won just 3

4.) China Industrial Sector is worth 1.2 trillion, India Industrial Sector is worth 0.15 Trillion (150 billion compared to china 1200 billion)

5.) China R&D spending is the 2nd highest in the world, second only to USA. India R&D spending is not even the top 10 of the world

6.) China is now the top trading nation in the world (the largest exporter in the world beating Germany!). India is not even in the top 10 of the world.

7.) China already has 1st world infrastructure i.e. roads, highways, reail/freight network, power grid etc. China infrastructure is comparable to EU or North America. India's infrastructure is true third world, many African cities & ports are much better served.

8.)China national average IQ is estimated to be 105-110, highest in the world, 5-10 points higher than white europeans. India national national average IQ is estimated to be 81-85...semi moronic

9.)China unofficial Defense spending is estimated to be 100-130 billion, second to only the USA. India defense spending is barely 22 billion, lower than Saudi Arabia's 35 billion

10.)On the first day of the Battle of Somme WW1, Britain lost 20,000 men

Sometimes in WW2 the Soviet Union would lose 20,000 men in less than a hour while trying to stop Nazi war machine blitzkrieg to Moscow

India in all its indo-pak wars, India has lost less than 20,000 men

You call those wars or cat fights?

When China fights, the world knows they are ready to lose millions & keep going & going

The chinese generals have said as much, google it

They are crazy enough to fight a nuke war with the USA, and lose 50%+ of there populations (afterall Stalin fed 20% of his population to Nazi meat grinder at achieve victory)

Thus in conclusions

Indians cant fight, are unworthy of war

Indians cant trade, Czech Republic has the same trade profile as India (a nation of 10 million). Czech Republic also has the same IT exports as India.

Indians have very little athletic ability

Indians are just arrogant delusional narcissists

China has its people spread out Worldwide in Business Ventures....All areas from Cookshop to missiles sales .

India is not in that market.

Singh2008 wrote:

1.) China real nominal GDP is 3.5 Trillion, India's GDP is only 1.1 Trillion
2.) China Birth Rate is below replacement level at 1.77, while India Birth Rate is well over replacement level at 2.7
3.) China won 110 medals at the Olympics, while India won just 3
4.) China Industrial Sector is worth 1.2 trillion, India Industrial Sector is worth 0.15 Trillion (150 billion compared to china 1200 billion)
5.) China R&D spending is the 2nd highest in the world, second only to USA. India R&D spending is not even the top 10 of the world
6.) China is now the top trading nation in the world (the largest exporter in the world beating Germany!). India is not even in the top 10 of the world.
7.) China already has 1st world infrastructure i.e. roads, highways, reail/freight network, power grid etc. China infrastructure is comparable to EU or North America. India's infrastructure is true third world, many African cities & ports are much better served.
8.)China national average IQ is estimated to be 105-110, highest in the world, 5-10 points higher than white europeans. India national national average IQ is estimated to be 81-85...semi moronic
9.)China unofficial Defense spending is estimated to be 100-130 billion, second to only the USA. India defense spending is barely 22 billion, lower than Saudi Arabia's 35 billion
10.)On the first day of the Battle of Somme WW1, Britain lost 20,000 men
Sometimes in WW2 the Soviet Union would lose 20,000 men in less than a hour while trying to stop Nazi war machine blitzkrieg to Moscow
India in all its indo-pak wars, India has lost less than 20,000 men
You call those wars or cat fights?
When China fights, the world knows they are ready to lose millions & keep going & going
The chinese generals have said as much, google it
They are crazy enough to fight a nuke war with the USA, and lose 50%+ of there populations (afterall Stalin fed 20% of his population to Nazi meat grinder at achieve victory)
Thus in conclusions
Indians cant fight, are unworthy of war
Indians cant trade, Czech Republic has the same trade profile as India (a nation of 10 million). Czech Republic also has the same IT exports as India.
Indians have very little athletic ability
Indians are just arrogant delusional narcissists

I am Chinese and I really don't like this kind of comparison since it instill hostilities between people. I hope you are chinese too cause otherwise don't think its any of your business how the two countries are doing.

China is a huge Country like the USA.
Much larger population and over 1 million millionaires.

India is now a small Country and a big population.

Singh2008 wrote:

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I AM AN INDIAN JATT SIKH

wow, didn't expect an indian to back China and also Pakastan in other forum like this. Espeicallty with numbers so infavor of China. Usually this kind of comparison are done by people no Chinese to stir up a flame war.

Spread something which make this world more peaceful and loving.in a single family too no two persons are alike but every one is unique in traits and qualities.Same is the case with different countries and different culture.Every one is unique and different.This the law of nature

Spread something which make this world more peaceful and loving.in a single family too no two persons are alike but every one is unique in traits and qualities.Same is the case with different countries and different culture.Every one is unique and different.This is the law of nature

Dubai Hindu wrote:

Is there anyone who say India can defeat china??. India don'thave any fools like that. India too got lot of great things to offer to the world. We are world no 1 talent supplier in the world. Out IT is realy great. We re the wealthiest non-americans in usa and etc etc.. above all India is sending more students then china in USA and all those guys are creating very good name and fame for india.
Still we aware china is great and we are working hard to catchup with china ..not to fight with china but to enjoy hifi econo technic life style.

I am just curious though, why does Indians focus so much of success of its people in other country as a success of its own? I mean it doesn't directly help the Indians in India. It kind of puzzles me, I mean doesn't it mean you are losing the best and the brightest abroad? The fact that more Indians are staying in America after they finished their study instead of returning to help its people I think is a bad thing.

LOL wrote:

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I am Chinese and I really don't like this kind of comparison since it instill hostilities between people. I hope you are chinese too cause otherwise don't think its any of your business how the two countries are doing.

Well done,you have spoken words of wisdom and you have my greatest respects

Dubai Hindu wrote:

Nothing but money+better life style. That is the reason. Who said they are not doing anything. Just yesterday announcement: Gujrat may get 240 Billion US Dollar investment very soon. Who is investing??. Companies started by indians in foreign countries and the companies which are ruled by indians in foreign countries. Indians get 1000s of dollars in each and every month and that money will go indian banks with in a weak. That money will be converted into movable/immovable properties in india , some money will be used to start new industries , IT companies , Pvt Universities and etc etcin INDIA. Certainly india is gaining much from NRIs.

Well private investment is great, but I still think India's greatest problem is in the infrasturcture sector. that is where only government money, not private money can help at least according to my understanding. Wonder why Indian government don't just start a massive building project, it might prove costly initially but it can provide jobs for millions too. that in term will start up the economy wheel and get things moving. Just by having a few elites donating here and there wouldn't help in the long run, you need people with steady income not a big charity check. Just my two cents.

Hello

The original poster is probably a Pakistani trying to spread some hatred , this is in which they are best.

Please go to the FORBES top 20 richest list and compare, its not India vs china but India vs USA.

Ive been living in Sydney for over 7 years. My ex and my fiancee are both Chinese. China is a great nation and never ever expect a war between these nations, however competition is sweet. Ive been to china many times and my fiancee and me just returned from India 4 months ago. Spread some love.

This thread is about China, India, and Pakistan. There is a possibility that it might have been started by a Pakistani Muslim. Please read the following about India, China, and Pakistan.

Both my parents are Indian and Hindu; I'm an atheist. Recently I heard that Shah Mehmood Qureshi (SMQ), Foreign Minister of Pakistan had given a blank cheque to China to negotiate with India on Pakistan's behalf. You can see and hear the statement from the Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi at: http://www.youtube.com/watch... As expected India politely rejected China's offer to be mediator. This is a blunder of the highest order on the part of Pakistan. I do not understand why Pakistan offered a blank cheque. Probably SMQ was under pressure from some Pakistani groups to seek China's help or is this some kind of a joke. In my earlier post I have already explained. I know the Chinese. The Chinese do not even like Muslims. I do not think that this relationship between China and Pakistan will work in the long run. As far as I know, the Chinese do not even like Muslims. There is nothing in common between Chinese and Pakistan. The Chinese are atheist, agnostic, Confucianist, Taoist, Buddhist, ancestor worshipping, pork eating people. The Pakistanis are Muslims who do not eat pork. Pakistan is such a small country that China cannot get anything from Pakistan. But Pakistan may be able to get something from China. So Pakistan needs China, but China does not need Pakistan. China has problems of her own to address and therefore is not going to be stupid enough to get embroiled in a conflict between India and Pakistan. A conflict between India and Pakistan will damage both India and Pakistan and keep China undamaged. If China remains undamaged in a conflict between India and Pakistan, then China would emerge as the strongest among the three nations without firing a single shot; it would put China in a stronger position for generations to come. So, a conflict between India and Pakistan would be welcomed by China.

There are some people who feel that China gave nuclear weapons to Pakistan. I doubt it very much. I think it is just Pakistani propaganda to drive a wedge between India and China. I know the Chinese people well; they do not think highly of Muslims. If China gives nuclear weapons to Pakistan , then it would only help to strengthen the Muslims whom the Chinese dislike. It is ridiculous. There is no way China would give nuclear weapons to Pakistan and risk her relations with India; what is important to China is to improve her relations with India, not Pakistan. China considers Pakistan dispensable. It is time for us to review everything Pakistan has said about China. Pakistan is a nervous wreak. Pakistan is a nation that lives in fear of India and so always finds ways to drive a wedge between India and China. However, the relations between China and India is improving.

History tells us that nations do betray other nations. Nations do deceive other nations. Nations do make promises and at the 11th hour break the promises. If the Pakistanis think that China will keep her promise to Pakistan, then I wish them luck. As far as I know the Chinese do not think highly of Muslims. If the Pakistanis want to be treated respectfully, then they would have to finally go to other Desi nations such as India or Bangladesh. On 26-Nov-2008 some Pakistanis attacked Mumbai. My parents are both Hindu and Indian; and so you know how I feel. Despite 26-Nov-2008, I extend my hand of friendship to Pakistan. Let us not reopen old wounds. Let the wounds heal. Try atheism.

History tells us that nations do betray other nations. Nations do deceive other nations. Nations do make promises and at the 11th hour break the promises. If the Pakistanis think that China will keep her promise to Pakistan, then I wish them luck. As far as I know the Chinese do not think highly of Muslims. If the Pakistanis want to be treated respectfully, then they would have to finally go to other Desi nations such as India or Bangladesh. On 26-Nov-2008 some Pakistanis attacked Mumbai. My parents are both Hindu and Indian; and so you know how I feel. Despite 26-Nov-2008, I extend my hand of friendship to Pakistan. Let us not reopen old wounds. Let the wounds heal. Try atheism.

Both my parents are Indian and Hindu; I'm an atheist. The problem in South Asia is that there is too much religion. Religions have sown the seeds of division and rivalry among the people. Religion has to be removed from the mind. When religion is removed from the mind, what is left behind is just the simple human being; then we will see greater commonality among South Asians. When religion is removed from the mind we will see an even playing field. Thus, the best religion is atheism. Please promote atheism. I have come to the conclusion that the solution for the religious differences and rivalry between the South Asians is atheism. Yes, atheism is the solution.

There is a difference between defending religion and defending the truth. We should defend the truth, not religion. The truth is that we come from the ocean, not the so called God.

The entire scientific community subscribes to the principle of evolution. According to science there is no doubt that we came from the ocean and evolved into primates. The dinosaurs disappeared. Some land mammals returned to the ocean and are now called marine mammals.

China Vs India....

what a stupid question. India is still alone.

China got bases in pakistan, Sinlanka, Nepal and Burma.

Don't even guess it.

Levelheaded....

You are an English major or Journalist or just a cut and paste copycat.

Why do you write too much and repetitions. Just write your points and only once. Just respect other people are clever and can understand you at once.

im of the view that if ever a war occurs between china and India, india will for sure losse. lets be reasonable, if a war does happen, who will back india and who will back china.......so apparently it goes like this, india will be supported by usa and china will be backed by pakistan and in the long run by iran....now lets see....paksitan and india are both nuclear with pak having a great access to indian cities.....i mean all nuclear facilities of pak cover the whole of india..... and now usa.....usa is already very busy in afghanistan and iraq....would it be wise for usa to openly support india.......nops.....if i were usa....nops.becoz if usa will intervene, so will Russia with its backing towards China........The conflict would spread to Iran and the Middle East where American and European armies would be forced into a painful occupation to keep the oil flowing, hardliners would take power in Egypt and try to invade Israel, NATO would occupy Egypt, insurgents from Libya and Sudan would force the occupation of those two countries, Russia would then occupy Georgia, Kazakhstan, Belarus and Ukraine. With American troops tied up in an occupation of everything between Algeria and India and creeping down Africa, and a rush of troops to protect Europe from Russia, China is free to try an ill-fated invasion of both Taiwan and South Korea even while it's trying to make progress in India. Chinese Navy and Air Force are obliterated. Serbia occupies Kosovo. Indian-American progress along the southwestern Chinese border, and a rapidly deteriorating front on the Korean Peninsula forces Beijing to sue for peace. Kashmir becomes nominally independent, although elections are quickly canceled and it remains Indian territory. Western troops leave everywhere except the Arabian Peninsula. NATO bombs Serbian troops out of Kosovo again. Climate change causes the oceans to rise and 30% of the world's population is forced from their homes and 50% of the world's land becomes untenable desert. All world governments collapse......hehehehe.....wat are u people talking about........a world war 3.......forget about it....so the conclusion is USA will resist to back India and if america doesnt help india....india will be between the devil and the deep....nowhere to go but to loose totally.

SpicySlanty from Rawalpindi, Pakistan,

You are entitled to your view. I still feel that the China, Pakistan, India war will go the way I had described in posts #16 and #17. I still feel that it would be unrealistic for Pakistan to depend on China for reasons I had expalined in my posts. Most importantly, I would hope there would be no war between India and Pakistan because it would be mutually destructive; and the winner would be China.

You are the biggest loser ... u seem to be an Indian .. shame on you for posting this

Singh2008 wrote:

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I AM AN INDIAN JATT SIKH

U are a loser ... nothing more