Allow people's will in Gilgit: EU members tell Pakistan

What the pigs in Pakistan don't want you to see. Pakistan is the illegal occupier and the real terrorist in Kashmir.
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Allow people's will in Gilgit: EU members tell Pakistan
5 November 2009

Brussels, Nov 5 (IANS) Some members of the European Parliament have expressed "great concern" over Pakistan imposing its rule in Gilgit Baltistan rather than allowing the people to decide their political future.

The EU members have formed a group called "Friends of Gilgit-Baltistan", which will "monitor very carefully all developments that take place" in the strategic border region, a part of the Pakistan-administered Kashmir where elections for its first assembly are scheduled Nov 12.

"I, and other members of the European Parliament, have decided to take the initiative to set up in the European Parliament a group that shall henceforth be called Friends of Gilgit-Baltistan," EU parliamentarian Jorgen Creutzmann, of the Group of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe, said in a press statement.

"It is a matter of great concern for us that the future of Gilgit-Baltistan is being determined not by the people but by the government of Pakistan under its constitution, even though Gilgit-Baltistan is not mentioned in Pakistan's constitution as part of its territory," Creutzmann said.

The resource-rich territory, part of the erstwhile undivided Jammu and Kashmir, has seen a separatist movement gaining momentum over the past few years.

Alarmingly low literacy levels, the absence of industry, deplorable road and communication links, poor energy sources and the lack of job opportunities have fuelled rebellion in the region, which was part of Jammu and Kashmir before Pakistan militarily occupied some parts in 1948.

Creutzmann said, "The future of Gilgit-Baltistan should be so determined by the people that the region does not replicate the polity of Pakistan which has unfortunately been marked by growing fundamentalism, extremism and terrorism."

"It is our belief that the people of Gilgit-Baltistan should be allowed to fashion their future in a manner that their region does not become another territory for the spread of fundamentalist and extremist tendencies," he said.

"It is believed the ethos of the people of Gilgit-Baltistan has far more in common with the ethos of Jammu and Kashmir than Pakistan," the parliamentarian added.

Watch how Porkis run away from this discussion topic.

KafirInfidel wrote:

Watch how Porkis run away from this discussion topic.

The people in this area should beable to decide their own politicial future.

Our politicial system of continuied dictarorship, and army control is not really what we should be giving them.

A Pakistani, or Porki referred by the enemy.\FINELINE..

KafirInfidel wrote:

Watch how Porkis run away from this discussion topic.

looks like pakistan given indian conquest a major blow to the indian vigor & strong will.

When hinduism failed so did the strong will for conquest met defeat

european parliament can't break indian stand how can they challenge pakistan. both need resolution eye for an eye

With a sincere Govt many islands (Falklands,Gibralter.....) don't want part away from the country with Govt seat thousands of miles away.....

POK is surely a different case...Last earthquake relief in POK should have opened the eyes of the people wide enough.......

It seems Pak is destined to disintegrate soon and preserve it's identity, saving mostly Punju parts as country .....! and seeing their affinity for "Bhund", it seems, they will be famous for twin cities capital "Sodom & Gomrrah" in place of Islamabad- Lahore.

HAJI KAJI wrote:

It seems Pak is destined to disintegrate soon and preserve it's identity, saving mostly Punju parts as country .....! and seeing their affinity for "Bhund", it seems, they will be famous for twin cities capital "Sodom & Gomrrah" in place of Islamabad- Lahore.

Its India at first place which takes Kashmir issue in UN --- So if India is Ready to Conduct Plebiscite ... Pakistan would be doing the same in Pakistan Side of Kashmir .......Is India Have Guts to do this...

sylmar khan wrote:

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looks like pakistan given indian conquest a major blow to the indian vigor & strong will.
When hinduism failed so did the strong will for conquest met defeat
european parliament can't break indian stand how can they challenge pakistan. both need resolution eye for an eye

Sylmar Khan, previous name "pindi gilgit". Why the name change coward Porki? Fact is that even in PoK, they do not want to be with Pakistan. And Indian Kashmir has always given a sound reply that they hate Pakistan and don't want to be a part of it.
You Porkis just don't get it. Even Paki occupied Kashmir does not want to have anything to do with the losing state of Pakistan. And you are talking about Indian Kashmir? HA HA HA HA
First take care of the mess you are in all over Pakistan. Muslims are killing each other in the name of Ummah! Pakistan continues to be a joke all around the world.

FINELINE wrote:

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The people in this area should beable to decide their own politicial future.
Our politicial system of continuied dictarorship, and army control is not really what we should be giving them.
A Pakistani, or Porki referred by the enemy.\FINELINE..

Exactly, they should be able to decide but the political dictatorship continues to deny that in Pakistan. The dictatorship is obviously afraid of doing that and instead drums up anti-Indian propaganda towards Indian Kashmir which dimwits from Pak continue to swallow.

mICHEAL wrote:

<quoted text>Its India at first place which takes Kashmir issue in UN --- So if India is Ready to Conduct Plebiscite ... Pakistan would be doing the same in Pakistan Side of Kashmir .......Is India Have Guts to do this...

You are the same idiot Michael who said that the earthquake in Pakistan was caused by India! Bravo Michael on your intelligence. Idiots like you can only be in Pakistan.

mICHEAL wrote:

<quoted text>Its India at first place which takes Kashmir issue in UN --- So if India is Ready to Conduct Plebiscite ... Pakistan would be doing the same in Pakistan Side of Kashmir .......Is India Have Guts to do this...

"It is believed the ethos of the people of Gilgit-Baltistan has far more in common with the ethos of Jammu and Kashmir than Pakistan," the parliamentarian added."

Mikey dimwit re-read the above.

HAJI KAJI wrote:

It seems Pak is destined to disintegrate soon and preserve it's identity, saving mostly Punju parts as country .....! and seeing their affinity for "Bhund", it seems, they will be famous for twin cities capital "Sodom & Gomrrah" in place of Islamabad- Lahore.

that was your plan long ago

that is why you created kashmir crisis

hahhahhahhah
making kashmir seperate issue worked well for as we have north most kashmir

your bright ideas could not win you whole kashmir in the begining or to the end

it is pakistani province, no matter how much you bark it will not work

the only thing india could do is cry out loud

because the world believe kashmir is disputed

World accepts pakistan kashmir as its territory, only indian conquest,indian hindu conspiracy of ruling muslim state is over. India could not stop kashmir from becoming a province.

Kashmiris are occupied they are protesting, indian is miserable.
India is no were completely independent because dispute needs to be resolved.

disintegrate
pakistan has fought bravely against both afghan & india
In both places pakistan came strong

Kashmir & afghania are pakistani & will remain pakistan

So the former rulers got blow to their pride[afghan india] now they know that pakistani has fighters they fear the most. Because both indian & afghan can match pakistan.

Persia the third ruler accepts pakistan as friendly neighbour, even afghan is willing to make friendship & want to prosper.

So india is left how could it win against pakistan, breaking pakistan did not work. Now india is planning to break india itself because that is what mujahadeen trying to. India knows how great freedom struggle is.

But india has lost hope in america's war on terror as indian war omn terror.

America will win her war, indian will live like soviet empire to its decline. Kashmir will be the first to secede from hindu occupation.

KafirInfidel wrote:

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"It is believed the ethos of the people of Gilgit-Baltistan has far more in common with the ethos of Jammu and Kashmir than Pakistan," the parliamentarian added."
Mikey dimwit re-read the above.

Gilgit throw out ghansara singh ending hindu dogra rule with it secede from jammu and kashmir.

Pakistan did remarkable job of seperating gilgit and ladakh from kashmir. Gilgit does not want to merge with kashmir.

So now you jammu and kashmir state.
Jammu mahraja gulab singh purchased kashmir.

Your jammu and kashmir are together still, you don't have any solution in your favor.

Looks like jammu and kashmir state occupied by you is worthless.

Because kashmir has nothing to do with jammu where hindus live. Kashmir wants to merge with azad kashmir thru independent.

Gilgit baltistan. becomes pakistan, kashmir whole independent, jammu and ladakh what is left of the largest state.

Gilgit don't think like you, they already won independence from dogra and kashmir they don't want to be slave again. when they could have their own province.

This shows how Azad (independent)is Azad Kashmir.
All Kashmiris have been systematically moved to Pakistan and Paki nationals settled in POK that is "Azad Kashmir".So vertually there is no Kashmiri is left in POK.It is just like Tibet where Chinese are settled and the Tibetans are annihilated systematically.After all China is a big daddy of Pak.Birds of same feather flock together.

KafirInfidel wrote:

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Exactly, they should be able to decide but the political dictatorship continues to deny that in Pakistan. The dictatorship is obviously afraid of doing that and instead drums up anti-Indian propaganda towards Indian Kashmir which dimwits from Pak continue to swallow.

they already have freed except occupied kashmir

unlike kashmiris gilgit want provincial status.

indian plan is to grab all kashmir not solution

so there is no final solution gilgit has far more freedom than hindu occupied kashmir where celluar is banned, identitiy checks.

KafirInfidel wrote:

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Sylmar Khan, previous name "pindi gilgit". Why the name change coward Porki? Fact is that even in PoK, they do not want to be with Pakistan. And Indian Kashmir has always given a sound reply that they hate Pakistan and don't want to be a part of it.
You Porkis just don't get it. Even Paki occupied Kashmir does not want to have anything to do with the losing state of Pakistan. And you are talking about Indian Kashmir? HA HA HA HA
First take care of the mess you are in all over Pakistan. Muslims are killing each other in the name of Ummah! Pakistan continues to be a joke all around the world.

hindu bully

first look at azad jammu and kashmir name, they are aginst hindu india & hindu occupied jammu and kashmir.

We have given them freedom of not becoming a province until resolution. What about you hindus think you make muslim state in hindu india.

exactly gulab singh had jammu, india will be left with jammu only along with what left of ladakh.

The kashmir british gave gulab singh is no longer want to be hindu india. If you don't get it you did not learn from history.

If you don't present history india still fighting to free kashmir that is occupied by india from freedom struggle.

sylmar khan wrote:

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hindu bully
first look at azad jammu and kashmir name, they are aginst hindu india & hindu occupied jammu and kashmir.
We have given them freedom of not becoming a province until resolution. What about you hindus think you make muslim state in hindu india.
exactly gulab singh had jammu, india will be left with jammu only along with what left of ladakh.
The kashmir british gave gulab singh is no longer want to be hindu india. If you don't get it you did not learn from history.
If you don't present history india still fighting to free kashmir that is occupied by india from freedom struggle.

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Shut up Muslim pig coward who changes names and is afraid to call himself a Pakistani in Arizona.

sylmar khan wrote:

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hindu bully
first look at azad jammu and kashmir name, they are aginst hindu india & hindu occupied jammu and kashmir.
We have given them freedom of not becoming a province until resolution. What about you hindus think you make muslim state in hindu india.
exactly gulab singh had jammu, india will be left with jammu only along with what left of ladakh.
The kashmir british gave gulab singh is no longer want to be hindu india. If you don't get it you did not learn from history.
If you don't present history india still fighting to free kashmir that is occupied by india from freedom struggle.

Read the following over and over again madarassa educated coward PIG "gilgit pindi".

"It is believed the ethos of the people of Gilgit-Baltistan has far more in common with the ethos of Jammu and Kashmir than Pakistan," the parliamentarian added."

PoK will become part of India!

sylmar khan wrote:

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they already have freed except occupied kashmir
unlike kashmiris gilgit want provincial status.
indian plan is to grab all kashmir not solution
so there is no final solution gilgit has far more freedom than hindu occupied kashmir where celluar is banned, identitiy checks.

You are wrong.When you say Indias plan is to grab whole Kashmir ,you are wrong.Kashmir is an Indian territory.So where does the question of grabbing the Kashmir arises?
The solution to Kashmir problem is Pak should hand over the illegally occupied territory of Kashmir (POK) called by Pakis as AZAD Kashmir.
The land was never occupied but the land was integrated / accessioned by a treaty between the Maharaja of Kashmir and the Indian government after independence in 1948.So you are totally wrong.

"Gilgit-Baltistan is not mentioned in Pakistan's constitution as part of its territory," Creutzmann said."

Even the Paki constitution does not mention PoK. Naturally, they know that eventually PoK will be a part of India!

JAI HIND!