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Anti-Haitian Bias Rooted in Dominican History

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u latrino

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#12002
Oct 26, 2009
 
Good this is how I see you cause I am American and you are LATRINO sh..t hole, third world country sh..t hole. Feels good to be American. And it's time for you to learn how to spell. FIRST is not fist. Oh I forgot no speeke ingleeh. eheheheheheheheeehheh

LATRINO SH...T
T-Reborn

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#12004
Oct 29, 2009
 
The Anti-Haitin bias that is rooted in the Dominican Republic was actually's Haiti's Doing!!! They caused it and now they're bitchin!
Herve Duchatellier

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#12005
Oct 29, 2009
 
Haitians hate their own. You should watch your self in a mirror before accusing everybody to hate you.Any Haitian feel more comfortable outside their ethnic group than inside,why?

It is because, like the name say it so well,you hate your own "Hais les tiens", that's why you guys will never evolve.You always want to put down one of your own because he have a lighter complexion than you,you feel complexed. You want to destroy another because you jealous of his social success.

Haitians always have a good reason to hate a fellow Haitian.
mfebs

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#12006
Oct 30, 2009
 
As a dominican of both black african and arab roots i can say that yes more rep. of the blck side should be given but if you look at it people celebrate it everyday with the music and food and the culture in general. As dominicans we are mostly mixed and we shouldnt have to go around saying we are onething or another as far as race. We are mix mulattoes and that should be enough.
T-Reborn

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#12007
Oct 30, 2009
 
Indeed MFEBS... We are a Mulatto Country... We are not White We are not African, We are not Indian, BUT WE ARE WHITE+AFRICAN+INDIAN...
Blatina29

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#12008
Nov 4, 2009
 
Dominican Pride wrote:
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You seen to be a keen of turning anything Dominican into something negative, don't you?
To you the fact that we like mangu with onions and salami for breakfast is a Dominican way to renounce our African Kunta Kinte heritage we shound be eating BBQ monkeys and incest to maintain our ancestral African roots, if we dressed nicely we should instead dress in African costumes with plantain leaves little psychogenic hats and go to the supermarket with a spear to hunt for live infested chickens and cattle.
To me, the real independence day is August 16, when we separated from Spain after Santana annexed us back to the Spanish.
I have to say there were some Haitians in that campaign also.
And no, we don't realized nothing, we are a mixed nation of immigrants from all over the world, you'll be amazed to see Japanese Generals in the Dominican Armed Forces, I recall a trip to Japan by Presidente Hipolito, he took several high ranked Japanese descendant officers and they were very surprised there to see them there
You would see Indians (From India) driving taxis cars, talking Spanish Dominican way and dancing meringue, Chinese who are pure Dominicans and don’t speak Chinese and Arabs wearing their garments with their Dominican born kids living among us in peace.
You seem keen on equating stereotypes with YOUR African Ancestry! BBQ Monkeys and spears aye? How about you go to market instead with Matador costumes and then feast on the criadillas (bull testes) of your slain opponenet and make fresh morcilla (blood sausge) like your proud "civilized" European ancestors then.
I personally know Ukrainians who I went to school with, who are now more Dominicans than Russians, it is very easy to get caught on Dominican culture, Haitians in the other hand do not assimilate and that’s a phenomenon very common on many countries regarding the Haitian Diaspora, man I hate that ‘’Diaspora’’ crappy word, it sounds like fungal infection or something.
You seem keen on equating stereotypes with YOUR African Ancestry! BBQ Monkeys and spears aye? How about you go to market instead with Matador costumes and then feast on the criadillas (bull testes) of your slain opponenet and make fresh morcilla (blood sausge) like your proud "civilized" European ancestors then.
Dominicanisimo

Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

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#12009
Nov 9, 2009
 
haitienne wrote:
<quoted text>it's prety simple,the country is full with tourist,all of those whites faces are not dominican.must of them are busenessman from other country ,investors,tourists and the liste goes on.you see this is where the dominican are wrong,the got a lot of foreingners in their country that they whant to pass for dominican but the truth is they are not they must know that instead of living a lie.i feel very sory for them because they whant so bad to be white.

Hahahahaha This is a happy hour of bull shit haitienne!! Please don't talk of baseball if you know nothing about baseball ignorant! hahahaha
Dominicanisimo

Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

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#12010
Nov 9, 2009
 
HAITI INVADES DOMINICAN wrote:
THE NEW WARK TIMES
Haiti invades Dominican…
With a 1000000 men army Haiti invades the Dominican. With a surprised at-tack from air…. ground the Haitian army invades the Dominican. As the Haitian Army arrives on the streets of the Dominican, women were standing with flowers colored red and blue to receive the Haitians as liberators. With information still sketchy we are trying to bring the liberation to you. One of our reporters on the streets of Santro-Dominican had interviewed many, and everyone seemed to be joyous as they were dancing on the streets. Juan Pablo, what do you think of this liberation:“allegre, I’m very happy we’ve been liberated?” This is what we’ve been hearing from the streets of Santro-dominican. We’ll try to bring you more information throughout the day.
You don't have army and few of you have only "machetes"..so, how you're thinking invade D.R., with stones? We have a professional army, navy and air force and with tanks, airplane, helicopters, planes. Are you thinking to face this with machetes? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahah hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahah hahahahahahah ahahahahahahaha hahahahahahah hahahahahah
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#12011
Nov 9, 2009
 
Many have been shocked to see recent photos of retired major league baseball player Sammy Sosa. Not only is he wearing green contact lenses, but his skin tone is considerably lighter than usual, something which he claims is the result of a skin "rejuvenation" process, some reports say. cont1
pendejo

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#12012
Nov 9, 2009
 
cont2
The once dark-complexioned, undeniably African-looking Sosa now looks more like Ricky Ricardo from "I Love Lucy". As the late Nigerian activist and musician Fela Kuti would have said, it appears that Sosa is guilty of having a "colonial mentality."
Throughout the African diaspora, black people internalized the racism they experienced under slavery and colonial rule. Bad habits are hard to break, and there is still self-hatred among black people today. With years of conditioning, societies were made to believe that blackness was bad, and anything associated with blackness was inferior and undesirable.
This problem is also prevalent in Latin America. For example, Brazil has the largest black population outside of the African continent at 90 million, which amounts to roughly half of its people. Yet, despite their conspicuous presence in society, black Brazilians face discrimination, poverty, and lower education and health standards than whites. According to a "racial atlas" created by the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) and the Federal University of Minas Gerais, 65 percent of the poor and 70 percent of the extremely poor in Brazil are of African descent.
In the Dominican Republic, Sosa's country of origin, people are overwhelmingly black: 90 percent have African ancestry. Yet only 11 percent identify themselves as black. And as UN experts found, there is "a profound and entrenched problem of racism and discrimination against such groups as Haitians, Dominicans of Haitian descent, and more generally against blacks within Dominican society."
A strong anti-Haitian sentiment is rooted in the country's history. Haiti is a former colonizer of the Dominican Republic, as was Spain. Yet, Dominicans only celebrate their independence from Haiti. Haitian cultural practices are viewed as inferior. The government has engaged in mass deportations of Haitians - and sometimes Dominicans mistaken for Haitians - while also attempting to deny citizenship to the Dominican-born children of so-called "illegal" Haitian immigrants.
But a large reason for this hatred of Haitians is a denial of Dominicans' own African origin.
pendejo

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#12013
Nov 9, 2009
 
cont3

Simply put, sometimes it is difficult to stare at oneself in the mirror. For years, under the Hispanidad movement, the government of the Dominican Republic emphasized the nation's white, Spanish and Catholic heritage, and conveniently left out the black part.
The Dominican Republic is a nation whose hairdressers are known for their hair-straightening prowess and most Dominican women get their hair straightened. Although dark folks are the overwhelming majority, black skin, wide noses and 'pelo malo'(bad hair) do not fit the standard of beauty. So, hair relaxers and skin whiteners are in, and people will call themselves a number of things, such as Indian, burned Indian, Moreno and cinnamon - anything but negro (the Spanish word), or black. This is what years of submerging your culture will do.
Certainly, the U.S. is not immune from this color-coded mentality. African-Americans historically internalized racism by pitting light-skinned blacks against dark-skinned ones, and using paper bag tests for admission to exclusive clubs. Black newspapers and magazines in the 1920s through the 1960s often featured advertisements for skin bleaching creams. Typically, with promises of "lighter, brighter skin," these ads blatantly associated white skin with beauty and success, and depicted dark skin as ugly. Meanwhile, people of color in America still fight against the Madison Avenue standard of beauty, which usually takes the form of a malnourished white blond fashion model with slight facial features.
Sadly, some celebrities of color join in the color-coded madness by lightening up and going under the knife themselves. And people of all colors and ethnicities risk mutilating their faces and bodies to look like distorted cartoon characters.
Sammy Sosa and others must realize that try as you might, you cannot bleach out your history.
Dominicanisimo

Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

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Nov 9, 2009
 
Dominicanisimo

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#12016
Nov 9, 2009
 
You must go away from Haiti to French Guyana and give us Haiti to the Dominicans. You're devastating your own ground, you don't know what you got, Haiti don't deserve you live there. We know how become that devastated land in a fertile soil.
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#12017
Nov 9, 2009
 
Dominicans are Haitians in denial of their blackness
Jacirez

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#12018
Nov 9, 2009
 
I agree with the assertion below

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In the Dominican Republic, Sosa's country of origin, people are overwhelmingly black: 90 percent have African ancestry. Yet only 11 percent identify themselves as black. And as UN experts found, there is "a profound and entrenched problem of racism and discrimination against such groups as Haitians, Dominicans of Haitian descent, and more generally against blacks within Dominican society."
A strong anti-Haitian sentiment is rooted in the country's history. Haiti is a former colonizer of the Dominican Republic, as was Spain. Yet, Dominicans only celebrate their independence from Haiti. Haitian cultural practices are viewed as inferior. The government has engaged in mass deportations of Haitians - and sometimes Dominicans mistaken for Haitians - while also attempting to deny citizenship to the Dominican-born children of so-called "illegal" Haitian immigrants.
But a large reason for this hatred of Haitians is a denial of Dominicans' own African origin.
trite

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#12019
Nov 12, 2009
 
another case of a desperate dominican trying to prove that the self-evident african ancestry is really something else.

the only people that folks like Sosa are fooling is themselves...
Dominicana

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#12020
Nov 13, 2009
 
Yes where sammy sosa is from SAN PEDRO de Macorix is overwhelmingly black population.
IM TIRED OF U PEOPLE WANTING US BE AFRICANS< WE ARE NOT AFRICANS, WE ARE NOT BLACK! AND WE ARE NOT WHITE, CAUSE JUST AS WE HAVE AFRICAN ROOTS, IN THE SAME WAY WE HAVE EUROPEAN ROOTS AKA SPANIARDS ROOTS. WHY DONT U JUST GET IT.
trite

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#12021
Nov 13, 2009
 
Dominicana wrote:
Yes where sammy sosa is from SAN PEDRO de Macorix is overwhelmingly black population.
IM TIRED OF U PEOPLE WANTING US BE AFRICANS< WE ARE NOT AFRICANS, WE ARE NOT BLACK! AND WE ARE NOT WHITE, CAUSE JUST AS WE HAVE AFRICAN ROOTS, IN THE SAME WAY WE HAVE EUROPEAN ROOTS AKA SPANIARDS ROOTS. WHY DONT U JUST GET IT.
There is absolutely nothing European really, about your culture, it is african based, that's why.

But you are all so ashamed of the obvious.
Dominicana

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#12022
Nov 15, 2009
 
trite wrote:
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There is absolutely nothing European really, about your culture, it is african based, that's why.
But you are all so ashamed of the obvious.
Im not ashamed of the african influence with as dominicans have.
The obvious is that u people want us to said that we are black as haitians, im sorry but we are not. in haiti u are black or u are white.
so in DR is different we are very rich in culture and skin tones. we are very rich in culture. we are not influence just by one Culture, we are the mix of TWO cultures, ESPANOLA AND AFRICANA and the result of that is WHAT we have today in our culture.
Jacirez

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#12023
Nov 15, 2009
 
Please call us white or mix even though we are not and the world knows it. My fellow dominican stop making a foul of ourselves.
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