Georgia's breakaway republics reveal plan to join Russia

Maksim wrote:

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The only thing you really know is that their Russian puppet governments expressed interest in join the "Glorious Union of Russia and Belorussia". Hmm.. I wonder why Kazakhstan was not included? Or they don't to be Russia's puppet anymore..

Sasha wrote:

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:):)
Who do really respect USA and NATO? Do you think that Iraq people or other innocent victims of USA and NATO aggression respect USA and NATO? Do simple people of Ukraine or of Czech respect USA and NATO? No, they don’t. Simple people as rule sympathize to Russia. Only politicians who were paid by USA respect USA and NATO.

Stefanya wrote:

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That aspect never even entered my mind which was on Abkazia and South Ossetia, however now that you mention it. It reall does bug you doesn't it that Belarussians don't consider themselves different from Russians. You must fear the fact that millions in Ukraine don't consider themselves different from Russians either. Are you afraid the Belarussian attitude might inspire Ukrainians not to follow you NATO path?

Armenian Prince wrote:

I wonder what would happen if Russia go ahead and join the NATO before the Ukraine. Then slowly start pushing Americans out of the block?
What my russian friends think about that?

Stefanya wrote:

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Is Russia encroaching on Europe or The USA? It is NATO and the USA with its ambition to balkanize the former Soviet Union, in order to divide and conquer and grab the resources.
Russia is not doing anything any country wouldn't do under the same circumstances. What if California wanted to join Mexico because there are more Mexicans than White people. What if Russia backed them. Do you think that the USA would just stand there smiling benignly because a foreign power was interfering in their business.
As for Georgia if the two provinces brokeaway in the early 1992 and don't want to be with Georgia, then what is wrong with that?
YOu people are so busy bringing up the past and approving the USA using NATO to move into the former Soviet Union you don't even see how it is destablilizing the region further, as there is no earthly reason for NATO to be in Eastern Europe or the Caucuses. Its all a matter of perception and the Russophobes are so busy hating and bringing up the past that they don't want to see a new furture for all of Eastern Europe.
But then we can't have the people of the former Soviet Union working out their own problems, and moving on to a better future as friends, without the USA there to interfere can we. Hence there have to be colored revolutions and governments put into place to skew the situation towards the direction they want. Russia must be vilified and a ring of NATO nation's must be place around Russia to ensure that Russia will remain "the enemy" as the world needs an enemy to hate, and the country which really is encroaching on the nations of the world, the USA can hide behind NATO and its of course, benevolent plans. Right?

Mr Because wrote:

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The problem with Georgia are theirs and USAs. If Americans were smarter to prevent Kosovo precedent to appear no problems with Georgia would be exsisting now.

Stefanya wrote:

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After the fall of communism, Gorbachev gave them the right for self-determination. After the bad advice given to Russia by their American advisors, and the great depression that followed, it took a while for Russia to get back on its feet economically, and in the meantime, the USA esconced its fair-haied boy Sakashvili to be their lackey and convince all of the people of the former Soviet Union that the new order in Russia should be ignored, they should think only about the big bad past and instead of working together for a better future by cooperating with each other, they should instead hurry up and get with the EU and NATO.
Good going. Why leave those people alone and let them work out their own problems and cooperate in a better atmosphere? It's far better to scare them with boogeyman, bad-guy Russia theories and derail the possibility of a new and better Eastern Europ by interjecting NATO and missiles into the mix as punishment for the past instead of giving Russians and their 14 republics a chance to do better in a new era.
It's so much fun to keep pushing Russia closer and closer to another cold war. After all they have money now and we can't have Russia doing well without the USA telling them how to do it.
NO its better to try to force them into using their money to build up a necessary military in the face of the agreesivness of NATO and the USA's ambitions. Then they can go right back to the good old days, when they had a worthy enemy to keep their blood pumping, and making them feel
like heroes.
There's nothing like the west pushing a new cold war to make themselves feel good, keep Russia from using that money on their economy and developing a variety of jobs instead of the military, and then use this "new enemy" (everything old is new again after all) as an excuse to push into Eastern Europe to their resources trek.
There would be no problems in Eastern Europe except developing a new economy in new system of govenment is the USA and NATO would butt out.

Maksim wrote:

hmm. Since when "Union State of Russia and Belarus" came into existence? Is that even recognized as a state by UN?
Also, Kosovo didn't leave Serbia to join a glorious new made us state of UgoAmerica. It just has declared independence from a state that has conducted genocide of it's people.

Observer wrote:

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Quite right "uther pendragon" is talking total rubbish. His position is not surprising regarding Kossovo - as he is Serbian. Need I say more?

Maksim wrote:

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LOL.. One has little to do with the other. What's happening in Georgia now are desperate and ultimately futile attempt by Moscow to rebuild Kremlin ruled nation in the former USSR geographic space.

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Maksim wrote:

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If Russia continues to pursue it's hard line politics. War is inevitable and everyone( living in the former USSR space) looses..

Stefanya wrote:

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It is clear to anyone who isn't a moron.
Typos happen to all but his message is clear and strong. You do need to learn English and how to express yourself better.

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Armenian Prince wrote:

I wonder what would happen if Russia go ahead and join the NATO before the Ukraine. Then slowly start pushing Americans out of the block?
What my russian friends think about that?

Maksim wrote:

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Most people in Ukraine( with exception of western parts) have profound respect for russian people, culture and language.
When it comes to Russia's government and politics, with exception of some alcoholics and people over 60, you will find that people despise Kremlin and it's hardline tactics as well as corrupt government level dealings with Ukraine.
Kremlin's politics is what's driving a wedge between Russian and Ukrainian people, not the West, NATO or US.

Maksim wrote:

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HA. Belarus is hardly the role model for Ukraine or any other government to follow. It's a grim reminder of what may lie ahead for Ukraine should it allow Kremlin to dictate it's way.

Observer wrote:

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Quite right "uther pendragon" is talking total rubbish. His position is not surprising regarding Kossovo - as he is Serbian. Need I say more?

Maksim wrote:

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USSR is no more. The question now is what will happen over the next 10-15 years..
-> A series of wars in an attempt to rebuild Kremlin ruled totalitarian nation or
-> A new nation of slavic based on principles of individual freedoms and prosperity
If Russia continues to pursue it's hard line politics. War is inevitable and everyone( living in the former USSR space) looses..

ArmeniQunem wrote:

Russia wil collapse in 2009..
Long live independent:
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