Russian Federation: Legal Aspect of War in Georgia

yes wrote:

Apart from the fact that this article is very accurate, I guess we already knew this apart from some Russians and some none Russian loving dogs. For those who blindly believe that Russians are peace loving angels, read this article, all of it. And if you still dont believe that Russians are barbaric horde, I feel sorry for you, you are brainwashed beyond repair. Good luck.

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Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:

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Hey yes. Did you see that interview Zhirinovsky gave on Georgian TV few months ago about a russian Tsunami weapon. I wouldn't worry much about these guys. Chechnya was their last show off and they failed. Now these old farts go to Duma to stink up the place while young and middle age oligarchs rob their voters.

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yes wrote:

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Haha, no i didn't get to watch the program, Tsunami weapon? interesting. Did you read this article Dr Phil?
As much I would like to see Russia prosper and develop into modern thinking country, im not sure they deserve it. All the war crimes they have committed, all the innocent Russians they have murdered, is beyond forgiveness, they are desgrace to Orthodox church. Only last night I was watching tv and they showed some protests in Moscow, with people using fascist slogans, etc. bloody pathetic. So called "great Russia" is not so "great" after all, in fact, its damn pathetic.

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Dan wrote:

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come on, Georgia has given the world 2 out of the 4 bloodiest people of the 20'th Century. And your army wasn't exactly going to Abkhazia and South Ossetia to plant chamomiles. Just like those bombs falling on the sleeping city didn't look like fireworks to those sleeping. Orthodoxy, you say?
There was no good side in the conflict. You went for blood and revenge, Kremlin went for... well, I don't know what they went for, since they didn't take the territory, but it is obvious peace wasn't what they were aiming for. Trying to make one of the sides look good simply shows how full of shit you are.
I personally don't give a damn about what you people do there. It was probably fair to bomb the hell out of Abkhazia for the genocide of 90s. But just don't go with that "we are all peaceful, we didn't want war, blah blah blah". Obviously you are not.
btw, I would really love to see Georgia, Azerbaijan, Dagestan, Chechnya, Ingushetia and other Kavkaz territories separated with a huge wall a la Texas border fence from the mainland Russia. That would make a great reality show.

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yes wrote:

Apart from the fact that this article is very accurate, I guess we already knew this apart from some Russians and some none Russian loving dogs. For those who blindly believe that Russians are peace loving angels, read this article, all of it. And if you still dont believe that Russians are barbaric horde, I feel sorry for you, you are brainwashed beyond repair. Good luck.

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yes wrote:

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2 bloodiest people that both worked for Russia, not to mention Stalin is still admired by your people. Did you even bother to read the article above? I think not. Reading your comment clearly shows you have no idea what you are talking about, "falling bombs on sleeping civilians?", just shows your dont look beyond RTV and other Russian propagandist medias, Ossetians evacuated Tskhinvali days before the bombardment.
Kremlin had no right in occupying Georgian land under any law, but again you will say : "oh, we were defending our citizens", just pathetic. Kremlin starting gifting Russian passports to Ossetians almost 10 years ago, it was all planed. Invasion of Georgia happend from Russia, not just in 2008, but many times in 19th-20th centuries and is still happening today.
Georgia may not be peace loving hive, but we certainly never invaded other country in a long history of Georgia, and Russia? ill leave that to you to calculate. list is too long, and simply i dont give a shit what your barbaric government in past or present has done, its simply disgusting.
Im no supporter of Georgian government, in fact i dont like them, nor im opposition as they are even worst, but it angers me when in 21st century my country gets invaded because of some mafia lunatic Putin and his puppets like to boost their image as leaders of a shithole. Abkhazia and S.Ossetia were, are and always will be Georgian land, and we will never give our ancient territories to some Iranians in Ossetia and some Armenians and North Caucasian muslims in Abkhazia. Sooner or later it will be over, in the meantime innocent people are getting hurt. And next time Kremlin decided our "sphere of influence" is with Russia, they can go fuck themselves. We will decide ourselves were we want to be, with EU, Russia or Mars.
And again read the article.

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yes wrote:

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As much I would like to see Russia prosper and develop into modern thinking country, im not sure they deserve it. All the war crimes they have committed, all the innocent Russians they have murdered, is beyond forgiveness, they are desgrace to Orthodox church.

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yes wrote:

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Kremlin starting gifting Russian passports to Ossetians almost 10 years ago, it was all planed.

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hmmmm wrote:

<quoted text>hehe....and we hear it from the country which lost 20% of its ethnic georgians since 1991 just because they fled to Russia for better living standards - indeed - georgian GDP per capita is 3 times lower then Russian one and georgian average pension is just 20% of a Russian avearge pension....As for war crimes, murders et.- do we hear it from the land that gave birth to Stalin and Beria?...and those little georgain berias and stalin-babies are now talking about barbarism of Russians - Ha!

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Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:

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Armenia and Georgia would be as rich as Sweden is today had not your soviet officials move the production of Beriev and Mig to Russia. Better stick to build Tsunami satelites with Zhirinovsky instead of airplanes. But than again that is nothing new for Russia to steal other nations ideas and exploit those ideas financially.

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hmmmm wrote:

<quoted text>production of those was not mooved to Russia - it originated in Russia - if using your logics to "moove" production of all inventions from USA back to the ethnic roots of inventors, then USA would be kind of Zimbabve today by its level of development - and I just used your logics to show absurdity of what you say. Both Beriev and mikoyan got education in Russia and useed Russian workforce and engeneers to achieve their results - if they were send back to Armenia and Georgia they would achieve nothing and no Beriev and Mikoyan planes would ever appear.Now make some estimations how many achievements of other nations do you, Finns, use - you don't produce even cars (exept for "sisu" trucks), not to mention planes or choppers...

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Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:

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Mikoyan and Beriev originated from where. Thats right. If they had even dared to propose Stalin about starting production of let say Migs in Yerevan they would have been shot up against the wall as traitors. Its really funny though since Mig was your ace weapon in the Korean War. Engines of course came from the West for most of your planes. Mikulin was talented yes but those engines he designed would have been no use if not for Mikoyan and Beriev. Remember. First airplane engine of Mr.Mikulins career AM-13 was based on Junkers design. It has been said that he learnt alot from the germans who were the most profitable pioneers of avitation outside of the anglo-french worls.

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<quoted text>but you have not responded regarding Finland and USA (and use your own logics)- where would you be without planes, cars etc - in the cave?- your logics, not mine - you are here for about 4 years alreadey (on this forum), but I don't see any progress in ability to analyse facts and to see what matters and what doesn't - what was fine in your posts when your was 16, may look starnge in adult person - who will take you seriously with such logics?...To produce hitech MIGs in Armenia - are you crazy, man?- can you produce it in Somali?- you need infrastructure, a lot of educated workers and engeneers, other industries (electronics, metaluggy, etc.etc)- one person of Armenian ethnicity (even if he is a gifted engeneer) is not enough to produce a plane in Armenia - if you don't understand such simple things then what is the value of your points?

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Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:

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But you have to ask this question to norwegians aswell. I think we proved in the submarine thing that we are as able to build planes, cars and even ships with german asistance as you and the swedes are. Americans build their own engines and didn't need no german help. Henry Ford was one hundred percent american as was Rockefeller and other major players. Heinkel who started the swedish air industry was one hundred percent teuton.

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<quoted text>but you do agree that Armenia or Georgia are unable to build such jet fighters like Mig or amphibias as Beriev even if they have some gifted engeneers like Mikoyan - also you should know that Mikoyan was more like an administrator (not inventor)- he was nominated as the chief of design buro because his dad was member of Politburo - there were a lot of other engeneers in that buro that did main work......
As for origins of inventions (which country)- why does it matter?- inventions are products of general level of industrialisation - ofcource it was higher in Germany and in Britain...but later Japaneese catched up in industrial development and left Brits and Germans behind in many aspects including inventions in many fields - thats all not new.

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Dan wrote:

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As for the invasions, you are right as well. A smart move was to let the Persians and Turks destroy you sissies completely and then annex the empty land. Don't even know why the Tsars had to interfere. I guess it is the common Orthodox bigotry. The same bigotry that got Russia in the WW1.

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hmmmm wrote:

<quoted text>to get Russian passport one needed to want it and to write application for it - the fact that they all applied shows better then anything what was their atitude to Georgia and where they wanted (and didn't want) to live...in fact they voted against georgian occupation with those applications for Russian passports - better then any referendum (and referendum did take place as well)

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yes wrote:

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Ok, so i guess if Chechens, Ingush and Dagestan population want to get American passports, which im sure they would love to, and if America granted it, US could invade Russia if any of so called "citizens of US" were killed? you make no sense, because you are a degenerate prick and a nationalist wanker, go join your neo-nazi gangs in Moscow and stop wasting my time boy.