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'Free to be Hmong' in South American outpost

Full story: TwinCities.com

Ly Dao Ly gazed at the jungle beyond his groves of tropical fruit trees on a recent afternoon.

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SP Curmudgeon

Minneapolis, MN

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Dec 23, 2008
 
"Hmong Vang Pao" is not a reference to the General Vang Pao.

It is a reference to the rituals and nuanced spiritual beliefs of a Hmong clan or tribe. Spiritual, marital, and other rituals and practices vary slightly from clan to clan. Hmoob Vaj Pov, anglicanized into "Hmong Vang Pao," is the self-ascribed name of one such clan and long preceded the General.

Heaven forbid! now Americans have elevated General Vang Pao to the status of deity for the Hmong!

What ignorance...
Hmoob MN

Minneapolis, MN

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Dec 26, 2008
 
You are right about the slight variance in spiritual and ceremonial practices regarding Hmong clan designation. But in this case, I do believe the reference of "Hmong Vang Pao" is a direct reference to the General. Why? Because as you well know, there are any number of clan living in the US, namely MN, not just the "Hmoob Vaj Pov" clan. For example, the "Hmoob Vaj Ntxhoo", anglicanized "Hmong Vang Song" possibly of the Vang clan. So to infer that the comment made meant only the "Hmong Vang Pao - Vaj Pov" clan is living in America is incorrect. It is more probable that the comment made did in fact mean all the Hmong of every clan the General lead or paved the way to America, not just the "Vaj Pov" clan.

fyi - Americans and even some dessident Hmong may not perceive the General as a deity, but I assure you many Hmong do look up to him, even to that stature.
Xooj Hmoob

Fresno, CA

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Jan 27, 2009
 
wow,even after all the effects.He's not even a Vang people.Good luck anyways.I'm just sick and tired of people been stupid and ect. of such manners.
Dave

Minneapolis, MN

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Jan 31, 2009
 
Vang Pao is the man, without him, all you lazy hmong would be dead in communist re-education camps. By the way, the way you treat your elders is the same way your lazy kids will respect you.
maichee vang

Morgan Hill, CA

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Feb 2, 2009
 
vang pao is a terrioist! no different from osama! hes was no leader! even back in the country he was a crooked man! he might be the the general with a lot of money,and used that to bribe his dirty wrk around! yeah, without him you people would not be here, but he had a plan trying to take over! its obvious! vang pao has always been crooked and slimy! why should vang pao get it differ frm osama?
JohnnyBgood

Hemet, CA

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Feb 5, 2009
 
maichee vang wrote:
vang pao is a terrioist! no different from osama! hes was no leader! even back in the country he was a crooked man! he might be the the general with a lot of money,and used that to bribe his dirty wrk around! yeah, without him you people would not be here, but he had a plan trying to take over! its obvious! vang pao has always been crooked and slimy! why should vang pao get it differ frm osama?
You are so...stupid!!!! Carry the last name VANG and degrading your own is such a low piece of shit. My advice to you, go spread your legs for the black dude and you will know what's like to get banged. VP got banged by the FBI and these so-called white brothers that he trusted. You just shut your mouth and people will give you the respects. If you don't know our Hmong history, you should go ask your parents or do some researches before you speak such horrible words about VP. If VP was a crook, your family and all Hmongs were crooked. You are worse, why? You came to this country in VP's name and without his good name, you'd probably get banged by the communists. Maybe you should go back to Laos spreading your assxxx for the commies then maybe they would release some of our brothers and sisters that were locked up in prisons. You're such a whore!!!!!!!!!!
citizen joe

Minneapolis, MN

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Feb 5, 2009
 
hmong's, you're all messed up.
Right on Citizen Joe

Seattle, WA

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Jun 22, 2009
 
Hmong you are very very messed up.
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